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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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Agree on the E3, and on critics not shutting up. They'll never shut-up. Nintendo will address one or two or even three things, and they'll move on to the next whine topic of the generation.
That said, I think that Nintendo fans will be wowed - and few others. And with that, I think third parties won't be convinced to join the party, with the commonly-predicted exceptions of easy ports and B/C-team token efforts. So it'll be up to Nintendo to address that drought issue.
The kicker is this: if they were to go this route and also announce their intent to do this, I think it would have the significant side effect of further pushing away those third parties who commonly claim that they can't compete. So if Nintendo does this, they'd better be damn ready to go all-in.
I don't trust third parties to take care of that drought issue. :/
TheGreatMightyPoo
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One thing I think is flawed is many fans will look for great visuals over great design.
I doubt Nintendo will fail to prioritize in this manner but I'm looking for very good looking games that try to better the game design of yesteryear.
I have a feeling many will be looking for flash over substance at this E3.
I love the name! It sounds like a Nintendo news show on the liveplay channel that would be run twice or thrice per week. Community interest stories (typical stories like Mario wedding cakes and Zelda-themed nurseries), gaming news, reviews, commentary, analysis, interviews, etc.
Sounds really solid. The more I think about it, the more I want just a general Nintendo Channel, with liveplays being a major featured element of the programming schedule.
ViewtifulJC
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I wanna see something that really shows what you can do with the screen in the controller.
And I don't just mean like the DS, with an extra map/inventory/gimmicky touch stuff
And I don't just mean like the DS, with an extra map/inventory/gimmicky touch stuff
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I think the gaming outlets tried to do the same with the 3DS.... It failed.
Nintendo is the unwanted redhead stepchild of the gaming industry.
Haha yeah first thing that came to mind after posting.
I don't know why I can't seem to find any video but there were many Let's Play type videos in Japan where stars played Wii/DS games for a bit. I remember at least some guys from MechaMechaIketeru playing some Wii ___ titles, some Idol plying Earth Seeker and Yaguchi Mari promoting a DS game, but I can't find any of that *woe is me*
Woohoo axis, not only did i get my first streetpass today i don't have "no friends" any longer. Good Day!
GameCenter CX is that show that ran after one of the Nintendo Direct's. It's also available in the japanese 3DS e-shop, it's a guy (sorry don't know him is he a comedian or smth?) plays virtual console titles for a short time to promote them. He also royally sucks at most of them which is the charm of the whole thing hehe.
Hmm.. maybe. It's easy to root for Nintendo to stick it to the graphics naysayers.. I can certainly understand that desire. And honestly, it's easier to show-off visuals in a conference than substance.
But I'm hoping that substance will be the focus when the time comes for floor demos and roundtable discussions.
IceDoesntHelp
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I did add you, then I sent you a PM with my friend code ):
just incase you're too lazy to go there here it is again d:
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bgassassin
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Sup?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I just mean peoples' impressions of the show(Nintendo fans actually).
All this speculation on the power, the wishy washy comments from third partys, the haters, HD, etc...
I hope fans of the company aren't just looking to see pretty to justify anything and aren't blinded to what makes Nintendo special.
There you are! Showing up right before the apocalypse, how could you?
TheExplodingHead
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I don't think that's necessarily true. I think Nintendo's policies as a company over the last decade, their particular product umbrella and unwillingness to widen that net substantially has bittered a lot of mouths. Over the last two gens let's make no bones about, Nintendo has been a terrible policy maker for a large demo and terrible provider of lots of demanded services. So I think it comes down to people (dev's and media) expecting either things will never change (and being given little reason to think otherwise), or Nintendo is just playing catch up in a very different industry.
I'll just say that for the average gamer and most multi console gamers, Nintendo's Wii U pitch did little to convince people that Nintendo can now service every need.
True fact!
Haha nice thanks, I probably wouldn't have noticed for a long time. Usually I use Auto-Pagerize which will sequentially load new pages, so NeoGAF threads to me are one long page and I never see the top with the User channel
GameplayWhore
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Huh, I thought GameCenter CX was a game that parodied the 8 bit era. I must be thinking of something else.
edit: ohhhhh! There were games based on what you describe, and that's what I was thinking of
Okay. going to bed nice and early now, so I'm a bit more awake to absorb all the doom. I may post a little bit more from my phone, though.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
If anyone else wants to add me. Feel free. I have room for about 20 more. LOL
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I actually have GameCenter CX Swapnote stationery. I can send it if you like.
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I actually have GameCenter CX Swapnote stationery. I can send it if you like.
IceDoesntHelp
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There you are mister. We've missed you, and you've missed dinner.
We were worried sick!
Ahh, that makes much more sense.
I hope we're willing to hold Nintendo's feet to the fire. Just because it looks pretty doesn't mean that's enough.
The good thing? We're a pretty pucky bunch when it comes to games.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Ahh, that makes much more sense.
I hope we're willing to hold Nintendo's feet to the fire. Just because it looks pretty doesn't mean that's enough.
The good thing? We're a pretty pucky bunch when it comes to games.
I think the gameplay of the games will shine more than the graphics, just hope fans don't get lost in the tech bullshit to let it bother them.
With that said, I expect really good looking games.
I really hope we get a glimpse of the EAD Tokyo Mario, you never know what that game will look like even though you think you have an idea.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
At what time will we get the results?
And hello Thraktor
Hi IdeaMan!
Thanks. I'd certainly expect some decent upgrades. The Gamecube's Gekko CPU had something in the region of 50 gaming-specific instructions added over the base PPC750 (and even some incredibly rudimentary SIMD capability), and the XBox360's Xenon had the heavily gaming-optimised VMX128 unit, so I'd expect IBM to have come up with some fairly neat stuff in the seven years since then.
I should be getting to bed, but a quick note on the investors' presentation/Q&A. Nintendo are going to be announcing their first annual loss in recent memory, so they'll be looking to put out some good news at the same time to counteract it. This won't necessarily be the sort of good news we might be looking for (like "Retro is making [insert cult NES game] sequel for Wii U"), but rather news that improves their fiscal outlook. We had a few of these at the last one, such as NSMB 3DS, Wii U NFC support and info on DLC/downloadable games, etc. Each of these is basically a way of saying to markets "Look at this thing that's going to help us make more money!" As this is their annual financial report, you can expect any announcements to be in the same vein, but bigger.
We won't get any Wii U game announcements, as E3 is the far more suitable venue for that kind of thing, but we might well get info on hardware or OS functionality or partnerships with non-gaming companies of any kind. More info on online functionality is a possibility, or confirmation of GC/Wii on VC and/or downloadable HD versions. A lot of that kind of stuff would get lost at E3 amongst all the game reveals, so they may even see this as an opportunity to reveal a load of it before E3.
Edit: We'll also get 3DS news, of course. In fact, if I were to make a crazy prediction, it would be that they'll announce download sales of retail games, with the new firmware update paving the way for the first ones to arrive in the next few days. The first games on it would be launch-window titles that aren't really selling anymore, but it'd get better down the line (so long as prices are reasonable).
GameplayWhore
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Probably in about 4.5-6.5 hours.
I expect fans to get lost in the tech bullshit. And I'll tell you why.
Before Wii came out, Iwata personally said that Wii wouldn't be much more powerful than the GameCube. So people already knew what to expect in graphics when E3 2006 rolled up. People assumed no more powerful than 2x a GameCube. So when E3 2006 came, all of the focus was on the motion controller and the games.
Wii U is a different situation.
Nintendo isn't telling gamers that Wii U won't be a huge leap over current consoles like they did with the first Wii (unless we want to count the Miyamoto quote on Wii U as evidence). Nintendo isn't clarifying how powerful the console is. And that's what is stirring the pot and creating so much debate.
So when E3 comes, all we will hear about is the tech and spec bullshit because Nintendo refuses to give us hard specs or tell us straight up what the console's graphical capabilities are.
So I fully expect tech talk and spec talk to completely distract from the games being shown. Which is really sad, but Nintendo is setting themselves up to be in that position. If they refuse to clear up the graphics debate like they did with the first Wii, then conversation about their game lineup will continue to be distracted by spec/tech talk.
Father_Brain
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Not arguing that Nintendo necessarily erred in making that decision, but it's one key decision in a long history of decisions that have alienated third parties. And even now that Nintendo not only has the opportunity but the need (at least, according to their own stated goals for Wii U) to reverse most of said decisions, it's not wholly implausible that the ill will accumulated over the years may just prove too great to overcome.
Damn, that's gonna be frustrating as all hell if all I want to do is dissect a game trailer while more folks are hung-up on petty shit like teraflops.. ugh..
Which is why I'm so heavily advocating that they get ready for the prospect of supporting their console pretty much on their own self-built ecosystem.
I think, for most third parties - western ones especially - that it's too late.
Fourth Storm
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Good posts, Thraktor.
Come on, Iwata. Drop the bomb even if it makes your hair go white overnight.
I bet our humble president is shaking in his boots at this moment. Some of the investor questions have been tech related in the past and they seem to be somewhat in tune w/ modern trends. The recent rumors of on par or worse have got to be alarming to some of them.
Come on, Iwata. Drop the bomb even if it makes your hair go white overnight.
I bet our humble president is shaking in his boots at this moment. Some of the investor questions have been tech related in the past and they seem to be somewhat in tune w/ modern trends. The recent rumors of on par or worse have got to be alarming to some of them.
If DS -> 3DS is anything to go by, you should get your wish. As was noted in the MC thread discussing Nintendo's output, on Wii&DS getting out experimental titles to go with the consoles concept were the highest priority. Now with 3DS it's all about capitalizing on what stuck and the mainstays (hell, even bringing back old friends).
I don't have anything, everybody send me all your lollipops!
This one's mine though stop looking at it like that!
Well I do have a gaggle of gold pantied Mii, mostly AKB48 (lol wtf) but that's pretty useless eh?
bgassassin
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That's when it's the most fun.
I'm sowwy.
Don't go back into hiding! *stomps foot*
TheExplodingHead
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Which is why Nintendo should just release the target specs and be done with any confusion. It creates too much unnecessary attention on that aspect when it's not made 100% clear. With that out of the way we can get into more in-depth relevant speculation on games, services, and realistic uses for the controller. But yeah, it creates a lot of messy assumption and confusion with them being all mysterious about it.
I expect to see a lot of show time at E3 to center around stuff we don't really care about too. New casual/family titles, Nintendogs Wii U, casual apps, and otherwise Reggie hyping up stuff nobody who's there has any interest in. I also think they need to devote at least a full 10-15 stage minutes to detailing the online component.
Exactly.
Personally I wish Nintendo would just get the graphics shit out of the way right now. If Wii U isn't a huge leap then they need to come out and say "Look, it's not a big leap over current consoles".
That way gamers can focus on the games, online service, and the controller at E3 instead of debating over whether Wii U games look like next gen games or current gen games.
Nintendo can't let this graphics talk distract from the amazing software and controller capabilities.
This post gives me hope. And hype.
My peanuts are ready.
As badly as I want info, I don't think they would try to justify themselves to anyone about marginally better hardware if that is indeed the case. What business would do that to itself?
They did it with the Wii. They came straight out 6-12 months before E3 2006 and said "Wii isn't about graphics. It's about gameplay."
E3 2006 rolled up. This kept people's expectations of what Wii's graphics would be like in check. And this kept the entire focus on the wii controller and games.
I guarantee that the Wii U controller will only be 20 percent of the discussion at E3...the other 30 percent of discussion will be the Wii U games...and the other 50 percent of E3 discussion will be on tech/specs.
TheExplodingHead
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My official prediction for big news out of the investors conference is: eShop.
eShop access on smart phones. Transition to Nintendo Network accounts. Retail downloads. More DLC. More Apps. More "Look investors, we are making more high margin digital products and it's easier than ever to buy."
And maybe a general idea for launch of Wii U.
eShop access on smart phones. Transition to Nintendo Network accounts. Retail downloads. More DLC. More Apps. More "Look investors, we are making more high margin digital products and it's easier than ever to buy."
And maybe a general idea for launch of Wii U.
Iwata old comments:
“As we will showcase the Wii U at E3 in June this year, the detailed announcements must wait until then, but we are aiming to make a system which shall not be forced into competing with the others where the contenders can fight only with massive developer resources and long development times as their weapons”
“When you look at Nintendo’s software, extraordinary rich graphics, massive gameplay volume and astonishing rendition effects are not necessarily the appealing point. It is, in fact, important for us that our games are appealing in other ways as well”.
“As I mentioned, it is true that, in some software areas, we need to be engaged in the power games. Take The Legend of Zelda franchise, for example, the fans must be looking for the graphic representations that they do not see as cheap at all when the title is released for the Wii U.
“When it is necessary, we do not hesitate to roll out our resources”.
While Nintendo hasn't flat out stated that the Wii U won't be equal to or noticably better compared to the 360 and PS3, Nintendo's showing signs of attempting to balance console power with controller innovation, affordability, and a better online service. Nintendo goes with what is adequate and not what is excessive.
“As we will showcase the Wii U at E3 in June this year, the detailed announcements must wait until then, but we are aiming to make a system which shall not be forced into competing with the others where the contenders can fight only with massive developer resources and long development times as their weapons”
“When you look at Nintendo’s software, extraordinary rich graphics, massive gameplay volume and astonishing rendition effects are not necessarily the appealing point. It is, in fact, important for us that our games are appealing in other ways as well”.
“As I mentioned, it is true that, in some software areas, we need to be engaged in the power games. Take The Legend of Zelda franchise, for example, the fans must be looking for the graphic representations that they do not see as cheap at all when the title is released for the Wii U.
“When it is necessary, we do not hesitate to roll out our resources”.
While Nintendo hasn't flat out stated that the Wii U won't be equal to or noticably better compared to the 360 and PS3, Nintendo's showing signs of attempting to balance console power with controller innovation, affordability, and a better online service. Nintendo goes with what is adequate and not what is excessive.
bgassassin
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Pigeon?
I guess so, but I just figured this time it would be a little less effective seeing as they plainly stated their intentions to make a competent system. Of course, competent system, that's open to interpretation.
And to be clear on the bolded, you mean at the conference or among the community?
TheExplodingHead
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I think he's talking about Thraktor's avatar.
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bgassassin
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Ahh. My brain hasn't caught up yet from work.
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