Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes

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I always wonder if it was the controller. The buttons were a little odd imo.

The controller was brilliant and had a great ergonomy, although it lacked one button and clickable sticks.

I think that the bigger problem here were games without online support, although I am not able to tell what was the reason for that. PS2 also needed an Ethernet adapter, just like Gamecube, and it had lots of online-enabled games.
 
Nintendo teaming up with WWE to release a Nintendo wrestling game? :P

My favourite games in this genre has been:

Pro Wrestling
Wrestlmania XIX
Day of Reckoning
Day of Reckoning 2
WWE All-stars

(I've heard that there were good ones on the N64, but I didn't really watch wrestling at all at the time)


Only one of these games have been on a non-Nintendo platform. I would not mind a good quality Nintendo pro wrestling game (or even figuring out why DoR worked so well and running with that!).

edit: This is awesome. I totally outed Wrassle-GAF here. Now the rest of you know whom to hate. ;)
 
Then why isn't Crysis 3 coming out for Wii U, both Nintendo and EA should be pushing Crytek hard to get it out for launch in March / April 2013.

Getting a hardware hungry game like Crysis out for the Wii U is just as important with regards tempting hardcore gamers to buy one as getting GTA V Or CoD imo.

You'd have to ask EA. Or Nintendo.

lednerg said:
Nintendo's own website tells you where to go to get used games from with links and everything. Granted, they don't talk about buying used 3DS and Wii games, just the older systems. But if they were adamantly opposed to used game sales, they wouldn't be doing this. It's 3rd parties who are the most opposed to used game sales - well, some more than others.

This is going to be an industry-wide push. Nintendo can't (or won't be) immune. NFC will just make it easier for everyone.
 
Those exact same used game conditions exist on PC, and the Wii U has an NFC reader. How convenient to be able to register your games to the console with a swipe!

Nintendo's own website tells you where to go to get used games from with links and everything. Granted, they don't talk about buying used 3DS and Wii games, just the older systems. But if they were adamantly opposed to the practice, they wouldn't be doing this. It's 3rd parties who are the most opposed to used game sales - well, some more than others.
 
That is from January......

We have a general idea of what the power of Wii U is/will be. Anyone surprised at this point is, frankly, an idiot. We know it beats the current stuff by a fair margin & it won't be at the level of the PS4/Xbox720, but it won't be a Wii vs PS360 situation again either. A Wii U = PS2 vs PS4/720 = Xbox situation seems likely.

Ooops, sorry guys..
 
Q&A

Read Q9, not very encouraging talk of horsepower....
I don't see how that "isn't very encouraging" - Nintendo's head of R&D basically said he couldn't talk about Wii-U before E3, but on the question of whether developers will be able to make things look cool with shaders on this different system, sure, they've already got plenty of experience making things look cool on lots of different systems. They already know how to do so. And Miyamoto was basically saying don't worry, the Wii-U uses the same shader systems other platforms do.
 
+1 to the AKI N64 Wrestling games, some of the best local multi player games ever made imo and still to this day the best wrestling games ever made !.

Are AKI still around in some form ?.
 
My favourite games in this genre has been:

Pro Wrestling
Wrestlmania XIX
Day of Reckoning
Day of Reckoning 2
WWE All-stars

(I've heard that there were good ones on the N64, but I didn't really watch wrestling at all at the time)


Only one of these games have been on a non-Nintendo platform. I would not mind a good quality Nintendo pro wrestling game (or even figuring out why DoR worked so well and running with that!).

Those are some of my favorite multiplayer games. I spent countless hours playing Day of Reckoning 2. The N64 was the home to No Mercy and WCW vs nWo, which in my opinion are two of the best titles on the N64. I was hoping that THQ would one day go back to making a wrestling game along the lines of Day of Reckoning, but my dream has been diminishing ever since SvR came to a Nintendo console.
 
Just to clarify on this one point, no one will ever let MS hear the end of it either. The PS3 and Xbox community aren't hand in hand; they hate eachother as much as they hate Nintendo. I don't mean to get too meta about this, but between the two, RROD is a mainstay in the arsenal of PS3 fanboys and MS critics. :P

I think the root of the problem, Tom, is that everyone and their mother can write game journalism. I'm not sure how much better it was in the early 2000's but I can tell you most of the tabloid shit is written by a demographic and generation Nintendo isn't intended for: jaded assholes.

True, but you won't hear it from the media like we do on Nintendo's moves. Fans are a completely different animal: we don't forget, and we'll pull-out 20-year-old ammo in our arguments without hesitation. :)

And I think you've nailed a huge part of the problem. I could go get a job out in the San Fran fratboys' club.. and I have minimal qualifications.
 
NES to SNES involved Nintendo being incredibly heavy handed when it came to licensing to third parties. N64, the costs of making games went up whereas they were (due to media type) far less expensive on the competition (in some ways, it was like the PS3 of its generation). They also did little to avert the image that Sega's advertising had bestowed upon them. That last bit is always an uphill struggle.

Gamecube's lower third party support was a result of the above paragraph. When your mindshare has eroded, you have to earn your way back. Nintendo did make some attempts (such as with the mostly disastrous "Capcom Five"), but there wasn't yet enough impetus to get third parties back onboard, as they were completely comfortable working primarily with the PS2 (in the case of Microsoft, they were helped out by allegedly tons of moneyhatting and the fact that many, many game developers already made games for another of their platforms, and it was easy to shift over, given the commonality in API).

Getting third parties is something that Nintendo just has to keep trying at, and every generation they'll get more if they keep up the pressure without doing things that are too off-putting. Uphill struggle. I submit that even though the Wii has a pretty bad stereotype with regards to third party games, it still had a far better third party ecosystem than the GameCube's. My suspicion is that the Wii U's will start out better than both.

This is what gets me though. They're companies not 5 year old kids on the playground. If you can make some money why wouldn't a company want to make some more (assuming they could have)?
 
Btw, I don't think they'll be sharing details tonight. Reading through the Q & A:



Miyamoto and Iwata using the "wait 'till E3" mantra as well.

I really doubt we hear anything specific tonight- like that quote suggests, they waited a damn year, no sense in blowing it a month before E3.

But I have to imagine there will be a decent amount of general discussion and some vague nuggets tonight. Wii U is key going forward and investors are going to need more than wait for E3.
 
Then why isn't Crysis 3 coming out for Wii U, both Nintendo and EA should be pushing Crytek hard to get it out for launch in March / April 2013.

Getting a hardware hungry game like Crysis out for the Wii U is just as important with regards tempting hardcore gamers to buy one as getting GTA V Or CoD imo.

Does every game have to come to every system?

And Crysis 3 is absolutely nowhere close to being as important as COD or GTA in terms of impact. The Wii U already has a bigger third party game in Assassins Creed 3.
 
The controller was brilliant and had a great ergonomy, although it lacked one button and clickable sticks.

That Z button was terrible in how it presses (it swivels instead of just going straight in) and how often it broke. I personally don't like clickysticks, so I don't miss them being absent. There is a limit to how many buttons we should have on a controller, imho. Nintendo went too low this past gen, and the others feel too high, that's my impression.

(though some of it is that I really have come to dislike the "diamond shape" arrangement of the buttons. I know they make the controller more symmetrical, but there are times when it makes certain types of gameplay rather frustrating to me)


I think that the bigger problem here were games without online support, although I am not able to tell what was the reason for that. PS2 also needed an Ethernet adapter, just like Gamecube, and it had lots of online-enabled games.

Did that many people really use online features at the time, I mean enough to make a solid difference? I don't know anybody at all who did back then. Most people I knew who played video games had a PS2, but none of them had an Ethernet adapter.


That is from January......

We have a general idea of what the power of Wii U is/will be. Anyone surprised at this point is, frankly, an idiot. We know it beats the current stuff by a fair margin & it won't be at the level of the PS4/Xbox720, but it won't be a Wii vs PS360 situation again either. A Wii U = PS2 vs PS4/720 = Xbox situation seems likely.

That's a bit harsh. There's still a pretty decent range of possibility left in the system's overall capability, and it is yet foreseeable that some more minor components could be close enough to current-gen performance so as to be negligibly faster (or slower under limited circumstances). What you describe is by far the most likely general outcome, though.
 
Does every game have to come to every system?

And Crysis 3 is absolutely nowhere close to being as important as COD or GTA in terms of impact. The Wii U already has a bigger third party game in Assassins Creed 3.
Well if it's going towards the competitors, then yes. People will ask questions about the absence of title x or y on Wii U.
 
^ gonna add you in a sec cobra!

+1 to the AKI N64 Wrestling games, some of the best local multi player games ever made imo and still to this day the best wrestling games ever made !.

Are AKI still around in some form ?.

Hah interesting, I didn't even know but synSophia is AKI, so you can support those awesome guys by buying StyleSavvy! (not gonna lie, I like dressing up girls!)
Also now I feel sad too that Black Panther 2 bombed, knowledge can hurt sometimes!
 
I really doubt we hear anything specific tonight- like that quote suggests, they waited a damn year, no sense in blowing it a month before E3.

But I have to imagine there will be a decent amount of general discussion and some vague nuggets tonight. Wii U is key going forward and investors are going to need more than wait for E3.

As mentioned before, the Q&A link posted above was from January. They shared details 4 months ago, so I'd expect something dropped tonight. Nothing major, but perhaps hints to the online structure for the system since that likely won't have a spotlight presence at E3.
 
Those are some of my favorite multiplayer games. I spent countless hours playing Day of Reckoning 2. The N64 was the home to No Mercy and WCW vs nWo, which in my opinion are two of the best titles on the N64. I was hoping that THQ would one day go back to making a wrestling game along the lines of Day of Reckoning, but my dream has been diminishing ever since SvR came to a Nintendo console.

Try out All-stars. It's not as great, but we had a lot of fun with it, far more than we expected given our reactions when the game was initially unveiled.

Holy shit, the Smackdown series is terrible and has been since at least ~2003. Just my humble opinion, of course, but if yours is different… then you're wrong. ;)

Best part of most Wrasslin' games that I like is the ability to interrupt grapples and the general concept of catastrophic collateral damage that results from this/



This is what gets me though. They're companies not 5 year old kids on the playground. If you can make some money why wouldn't a company want to make some more (assuming they could have)?

I think that if you really pay attention, you'll find that the divide between grownups in business and children in schoolyards is thinner than you initially expected.
 
I'm personally hoping to see a new face tonight. Whether that be a new Japanese lead dev being introduced, or artwork of a new character from a new IP. :)
 
Well if it's going towards the competitors, then yes. People will ask questions about the absence of title x or y on Wii U.
What's gives me pause is that asking this might be misconstrued as port-begging around here, even though it's sometimes an intellectually sound question that a normally curious person could ask.

I predict that we'll see lots of these situations. :/

But no.. not every game has to go to every system.
 
The are wise to do so, too.
To prevent a further decline in stocks (it was down 0.75% when NASDAQ closed on the 26th of April) I believe they would want to tell their investors something genuinely positive and also something that is easy to understand about Wii U. Radio silence could add even more fuel to the recent Nintendo hate articles and without proper communication from Nintendo that is what investors and analyst will consort to. I believe it would be wise of Nintendo to perhaps not provide a full spec sheet but at least give perspective on Wii U's technical capabilities, and perhaps mention key partners.

I'd like to know the decision behind abandoning the 1T-SRAM technology (and MoSys). MoSys has been a partner to Nintendo for more than a decade, why not just request they provide another type of RAM memory, a cheaper kind, shouldn't be too difficult?
 
Hah interesting, I didn't even know but synSophia is AKI, so you can support those awesome guys by buying StyleSavvy! (not gonna lie, I like dressing up girls!)
Also now I feel sad too that Black Panther 2 bombed, knowledge can hurt sometimes!

I like dressing down girls. Does synSophia make a game like that?
 
What's gives me pause is that asking this might be misconstrued as port-begging around here, even though it's sometimes an intellectually sound question that a normally curious person could ask.

I predict that we'll see lots of these situations. :/

But no.. not every game has to go to every system.
Just talking about people in general. I don't care if Crysis doesn't appear on Wii U, but I can understand why someone would think that's weird.
 

It has been posted a million times, he's saying that not all games need to be graphically intensive. It's about software, not hardware.

Then why isn't Crysis 3 coming out for Wii U, both Nintendo and EA should be pushing Crytek hard to get it out for launch in March / April 2013.

Getting a hardware hungry game like Crysis out for the Wii U is just as important with regards tempting hardcore gamers to buy one as getting GTA V Or CoD imo.

Maybe the team can't handle another SKU, or EA doesn't think it'll sell enough to justify making a Wii U version.
 
Rösti;37316472 said:
To prevent a further decline in stocks (it was down 0.75% when NASDAQ closed on the 26th of April) I believe they would want to tell their investors something genuinely positive and also something that is easy to understand about Wii U. Radio silence could add even more fuel to the recent Nintendo hate articles and without proper communication from Nintendo that is what investors and analyst will consort to. I believe it would be wise of Nintendo to perhaps not provide a full spec sheet but at least give perspective on Wii U's technical capabilities, and perhaps mention key partners.

I would not mind seeing them bringing out stats on the total sales of "Angry Birds" compared to the first half year of "Super Mario 3D Land" sales (and comparison of overall App Store revenue to overall Nintendo revenue) with a bit of an explanation of why having control of your own platform can be a benefit over utilizing the ecosystem established by a competitor.

Since this is a financial call, they should answer fire with fire. Specs won't help to convince analysts that Nintendo is on decent economic footing.
 
I'm personally hoping to see a new face tonight. Whether that be a new Japanese lead dev being introduced, or artwork of a new character from a new IP. :)

Just remember to keep your expectations in check
I woulnd't be surprised if they don't say anything substantial at all
 
It really is not surprising, given that Rayman Origins hit every platform under the sun, but it is nice to know. If true, it will be another third party game I will definitely get on Wii U.

Im really hoping I can do most of next generation with the Wii U, then pick up the other platforms when they and their games are cheap enough. Getting the Wii first this gen made it hard to 'keep up' with the bigger releases (and some not so big ones).
i like your avatar
 
Then why isn't Crysis 3 coming out for Wii U, both Nintendo and EA should be pushing Crytek hard to get it out for launch in March / April 2013.

Getting a hardware hungry game like Crysis out for the Wii U is just as important with regards tempting hardcore gamers to buy one as getting GTA V Or CoD imo.
TS4 Wii U exclusive. Bank on it.
 
Amen!

For a crowd that prides itself on being mature, they sure do come-off as incredibly insecure. :)
"I'd rather die than be seen with a 3ds." is an actual statement by a 'mature' gaffer. The world is full of 16-year-olds, or otherwise people whose self-esteem stopped developing at about that age. Those people also happen to be the core target demographic of a certain industry. So it's nothing short of ironic that despite all odds, nintendo tend to prosper amids that industry. Which is part of the reason I respect them as a company, even though I might not like some of their business moves.
 
I wonder what game they're playing. Playing a N64 game in split screen (assumably), on a smaller TV, outside, and a relatively fair distance from the TV. I dont think that my eyesight would have been good enough to see much of whats going on in the game hehe.



Its a MMORPG.
I'm not that outta the loop. I knew it was a mmo just didn't know it was a action rpg instead of turn based. >_>

that outside picture was awesome btw.

Edit: Oh so it is turn based. Just saw that post. Still a few pages behind.
 
Just remember to keep your expectations in check
I woulnd't be surprised if they don't say anything substantial at all

There should at least be new details on some of what was mentioned at the last briefing: Nintendo Network, Wii U's NFC, and digital distribution of retail software. We obviously won't hear any talk of specific Wii U software, though.
 
"I'd rather die than be seen with a 3ds." is an actual statement by a 'mature' gaffer. The world is full of 16-year-olds, or otherwise people whose self-esteem stopped developing at about that age. Those people also happen to be the core target demographic of a certain industry. So it's nothing short of ironic that despite all odds, nintendo tend to prosper amids that industry. Which is part of the reason I respect them as a company, even though I might not like some of their business moves.
I haven't seen that statement, but I've seen some in the same vein around here. A few years ago, I would've gotten into a tiff with them over that, but now I know enough to just not care. :)

There should at least be new details on some of what was mentioned at the last briefing: Nintendo Network, Wii U's NFC, and digital distribution of retail software. We obviously won't hear any talk of specific Wii U software, though.
I'd love to hear more about the network, particularly the community stuff.

Hey Iwata: the investors are upset! They're antsy, as are we! throw us a frickin' bone here!
 
Hehe, the whole "let's pile up shit in front of Nintendo's doorway so they have to tell us something" thing never made too much sense to me, so desperate x.x
No more Iwata-fied?! :o

"I'd rather die than be seen with a 3ds." is an actual statement by a 'mature' gaffer. The world is full of 16-year-olds, or otherwise people whose self-esteem stopped developing at about that age. Those people also happen to be the core target demographic of a certain industry. So it's nothing short of ironic that despite all odds, nintendo tend to prosper amids that industry. Which is part of the reason I respect them as a company, even though I might not like some of their business moves.

Another choice statement from RPS (sorry RPS - love you - but allowing anybody to comment leads to interesting statements) to go with our modern times:
"I'd rather be shot in the face with a shotgun than play a jRPG"
 
"I'd rather die than be seen with a 3ds." is an actual statement by a 'mature' gaffer. The world is full of 16-year-olds, or otherwise people whose self-esteem stopped developing at about that age. Those people also happen to be the core target demographic of a certain industry. So it's nothing short of ironic that despite all odds, nintendo tend to prosper amids that industry. Which is part of the reason I respect them as a company, even though I might not like some of their business moves.

Comments like that make me think that I'd rather die than be stuck on this planet full of idiots.
 
"Ding-dong, Cabbie D wants to play Pikmin 3 co-op."

I'll bug the shit out of y'all.

Also how many Canadians we got in here?
 
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