Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes

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They could think outside the box and call it something like Wii ױ, Nintendo Ѻ or Wii ʭ and use characters from outside the Latin alphabet. Shown characters are just for example. I don't know how difficult that would be to trademark or if people would find it easy to associate with something (though the character itself should be easily recognized), but it would certainly be something special. There is a heap of mathematical operators to use, perhaps something fitting could be found in that block (of Unicode characters).

I do not think the Wii U name will be changed, despite ongoing trademark problems in both Europe and the United States. Wii is a very strong brand and as long as Nintendo can effectively differentiate Wii U with its predecessor, what's the point of calling it something else than Wii U?
 
I just realized something incredibly annoying about Wiimotes need for multiplayer and no possibility for multiple Upads.

AA Batteries.

At least design a freaking new Wiimote nintendo.

The whole situation is so terrible though. There is no standardization for the local multi experience. Wiimote + nunchuck doesnt even have the same buttons as the pad. It will be terrible, confusing, limiting. :/
 
amtentori said:
I just realized something incredibly annoying about Wiimotes need for multiplayer and no possibility for multiple Upads.

AA Batteries.

At least design a freaking new Wiimote nintendo.

The whole situation is so terrible though. There is no standardization for the local multi experience. Wiimote + nunchuck doesnt even have the same buttons as the pad. It will be terrible, confusing, limiting. :/
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What's to say Nintendo won't come out with a revised ccpro?
 
lednerg said:
It's gotta be an IR camera. The Wii U controller needs to know which direction the TV is, and that's the only real way to do it - unless they expect us to orient the controller manually every time we switch it on. The PixArt IR sensor has a tiny little lens on it, about 1mm across, so the size of that black window is more than adequate to house it.

As far as controlling a TV goes, the Wii U already has a massive IR blaster with 10 LEDs in it right by the TV - the Sensor Bar. That's how they do it in Japan. The other option would be to use the built-in Sensor Bar in the Wii U controller, but that's only if those LEDs are especially powerful. Thing is, it's such a minor function, and would only be useful for a fraction of the audience. An IR camera
would be a much better use of resources.
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I wish it were, but just take a look at some pics of the 3DS hardware if you don't have one and you'll see the exact same thing. Looks like we'll only have the Wii Remote for pointer controls. 2 handed pointing would probably be weird anyway. Why not just use the touch screen? Only thing is the gyros might drift, but hopefully they figured out a way to compensate for that.

I don't know how they could use the sensor bar to control tv either, as IR is dependent on line of sight. The sensor bar would have to face the tv and be pointed directly at wherever it has an ir transmitter.

My guess is they plan on using it to directly exchange information with 3DS.
 
StevieP said:
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saver, thank you. Wsippel... CPU-wise, which lineage are we talking now? Certainly won't be based on Power7 in any loose manner if the start frequency is 1ghz.
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It's most certainly not a modified POWER7, no. Even though the core would probably run perfectly stable at 1GHz. But the frequency range doesn't confirm anything either way. But it rules out two options: It's not an A2, and it's definitely not a 470/ 476FP, as neither core was designed to achieve such clock speeds. The IBM press release said it was an "all new" core, and that's probably exactly what it is. It's not an A2, but it has at least one feature in common with the A2. And it probably has things in common with other IBM chips - like POWER7.
 
I wouldn't count out an official spec reveal. Wasn't the Wii the first system Nintendo said they weren't going to discuss specs for? And the Wii-U is supposed to be targeting core gamers, and they know core gamers like specs. Especially with these rumors going around about the Wii-U being "on par" with current-gen consoles, Nintendo might want to say "That's all a lot of hooey, look how powerful this mofo is!"
 
wsippel said:
It's most certainly not a modified POWER7, no. Even though the core would probably run perfectly stable at 1GHz. But the frequency range doesn't confirm anything either way. But it rules out two options: It's not an A2, and it's definitely not a 470/ 476FP, as neither core was designed to achieve such clock speeds. The IBM press release said it was an "all new" core, and that's probably exactly what it is. It's not an A2, but it has at least one feature in common with the A2. And it probably has things in common with other IBM chips - like POWER7.
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Hmm... did the word "Flanker" or "cu45hp" come up in the document that you saw? haha

But yes, at frequencies up to 4ghz it would rule out the smaller cores like the A2/47x. Would it be possible that they've finally managed to make the Waternoose (from Cell/Xenon) OoO? That would be considered a "new" CPU.

Dreamwriter said:
I wouldn't count out an official spec reveal.
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I would lol
 
HylianTom said:
"Wii DS" has so much potential for confusion.. but for some strange reason, I really like it, haha..
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Yes on the confusion part

But you got to admit... They are basically taking what made the ds great (gameplay wise) and apply it to their home console and then some... (Like the big focus on DD)

I dont really belive we will get a new name

But i would like the hat eating video, so comeon Nintendo... Rename it to "PlayBox 720" lol
 
IceDoesntHelp said:
Uh...no...I mean of course. Yeah, you're like the love of my dreams and stuff.
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YAY! So, when do I get it?

Dreamwriter said:
I wouldn't count out an official spec reveal. Wasn't the Wii the first system Nintendo said they weren't going to discuss specs for? And the Wii-U is supposed to be targeting core gamers, and they know core gamers like specs. Especially with these rumors going around about the Wii-U being "on par" with current-gen consoles, Nintendo might want to say "That's all a lot of hooey, look how powerful this mofo is!"
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They didn't reveal DS or 3DS specs either. Besides that, revealing specs would just give Sony and Microsoft the ability to say, "Our console offer three times the performance of Wii U!" There's no logical reason to reveal specs.

shadyspace said:
I would ban bet on the name not being changed if ban bets weren't totally lame.
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Avatar bet, then. Much more fun.
 
StevieP said:
Hmm... did the word "Flanker" or "cu45hp" come up in the document that you saw? haha

But yes, at frequencies up to 4ghz it would rule out the smaller cores like the A2/47x. Would it be possible that they've finally managed to make the Waternoose (from Cell/Xenon) OoO? That would be considered a "new" CPU.
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Cu45-HP is just a process, not a chip. POWER7 is Cu45-HP. A2 is Cu45-HP. The Wii U CPU will be Cu45-HP. Unless it's Cu32. Which it probably won't be. ;)

And I actually really kinda think the Wii U CPU cores will be based on PPEs. Just with some A2 and POWER7 features replacing Cell/ Xenon features, and maybe OoOE. Or maybe not.
 
wsippel said:
Cu45-HP is just a process, not a chip. POWER7 is Cu45-HP. A2 is Cu45-HP. The Wii U CPU will be Cu45-HP. ;)

And I actually really kinda think the Wii U CPU cores will be based on PPEs. Just with some A2 and POWER7 features replacing Cell/ Xenos features, and maybe OoOE. Or maybe not.
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The reason I ask of the CU45HP is because I'm still trying to figure out which 32nm part is being produced at East Fishkill with IBM/GF earlier this year. It's certainly not Sony's goods, and I'm doubting it is Microsoft's as well. And I have never seen a monicker on any documents/leaks that would suggest a near-future change to CU32HP for Nintendo's CPU.

I have heard that IBM has upgraded their Altivec/VSX stuff which I could easily see going into this chip, however... No OoOE would make me a sad panda. It would also make the "100% Wii emulation at 480p" (of which I would assume is done in-hardware like Wii->GC) more difficult, wouldn't it?
 
BurntPork said:
They didn't reveal DS or 3DS specs either.
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Handhelds are different - Nintendo didn't actually say they weren't going to release specs for those, they just assumed people wouldn't be interested. The PSP didn't get its specs announced until after E3 either, except for the UMD storage space (Sony did eventually release the PSP specs though, just not until after the pre-launch E3).

BurntPork said:
Besides that, revealing specs would just give Sony and Microsoft the ability to say, "Our console offer three times the performance of Wii U!" There's no logical reason to reveal specs
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For that to be possible, the system would actually have to be "three times" the performance, which for all we know may not be possible with existing technology :) And as the Wii-U is being released this year, and the competition not even announced this year, the specs will be fully known before the competitors announce their new consoles, so there's no reason not to announce the specs, unless the system truly is less powerful than current-gen consoles.
 
They should call it the Nintendo Reggie or the Nintendo Laughs.

ColdBlooder said:
Man, one of the most obvious things why the WiiU will be successful just came to my mind.

Its a home console version of the DS... The best selling handheld console ever. Games on DS can get an WiiU sequel. Maybe we see some kind of DS VC once they kill the system off. Or DS remakes for WiiU...

They should call it Wii DS ;)
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HylianTom said:
"Wii DS" has so much potential for confusion.. but for some strange reason, I really like it, haha..
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I like Wii U. Really. And I think it's a clever choice with more benefits than disadvantages. Wii 2 is really too boring, no vision, just an addition... And if they have to change the name I will be pleased with Wii DS = 150M + 100M system sales locked.
 
StevieP said:
The reason I ask of the CU45HP is because I'm still trying to figure out which 32nm part is being produced at East Fishkill with IBM/GF earlier this year. It's certainly not Sony's goods, and I'm doubting it is Microsoft's as well. And I have never seen a monicker on any documents/leaks that would suggest a future change to CU32HP for Nintendo's CPU.

I have heard that IBM has upgraded their Altivec/VSX stuff which I could easily see going into this chip, however... No OoOE would make me a sad panda. It would also make the "100% Wii emulation at 480p" (of which I would assume is done in-hardware like Wii->GC) more difficult, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, that's the $1000 question: What is Oban? I don't think it has anything to do with Sony or MS, it's probably the chip in production at fab 8 and previously at East Fishkill, and "Oban" is not only a town a Scotland, but also a Japanese coin. Maybe it's actually the Wii U CPU and SA got the details wrong. Maybe not.

And I have no idea what exactly would be required to provide clock for clock Wii compatibility. PPEs are in order, yet they are ABI compatible with the OoOE PPC970 line - iO cores can offer binary compatibility with OoO cores. Dunno.
 
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