Will DS touch technology be the key to beating the PSP?

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Interesting article.

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I think that Nintendo could definitely take advantage of the simplicity of touch technology to leverage its dominance in the portable game market. Of course they need to build easy-to-learn titles like parlor games and the network interface, but when that's done I think DS games will be much easier for a mass market audience to grasp than games on the PSP.

Networked casino games could draw in an mature casual audience with licenses from the right Vegas casinos, while the hardcore gamers stick to networked Metroid, Zelda, Crystal Chronicles, etc. Nintendo, bring on the DS network already.
 
justdefended said:
Interesting article.
Networked casino games could draw in an mature casual audience with licenses from the right Vegas casinos, while the hardcore gamers stick to networked Metroid, Zelda, Crystal Chronicles, etc. Nintendo, bring on the DS network already.
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I could see a Texas Hold 'Em network game being pretty huge...
 
Good article, but the DS dominating the PSP would be like apples dominating oranges. They are too dissimilar to be competing for the same market.
 
^^

How? Both are portable, play games... Sold by the same distributors and retailers.

Even the demographics are the same give or take.

I think Nintendo pleaded 'no contest' a while back anyway.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
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How? Both are protable, play games... Sold by the same distributors and retailers.

Even the demographics are the same.
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So is my cell phone, But that isn't competing with the GBA.
 
Your cell phone is a phone first. PSP and DS are both portable game machines first. They are competing in the same market.
 
Sooo....people will be attracted by this "simplistic" touch screen nonsense because the use of a control pad and buttons they've been experiencing all of these years was just way too complicated?

Seriously, the touch screen introduces gameplay quirks, but don't act like the traditional control setup wasn't ever effective.
 
The demographics are not the same. You're going against both Nintendo and Sony's PR on that one. Sony is billing the PSP as the 'Walkman of the 21st century'.
 
Yeah. The DS and PSP are in direct competition. Don't kid yourself.

Is this the first instance of pre-emptive damage control?
 
Gek54 said:
Your cell phone is a phone first. PSP and DS are both portable game machines first. They are competing in the same market.
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You're completely right.

You buy a cellphone to chat with people or prank call them.
You buy a game system to play video games.
 
Only on Sales-age would that be considered pre-emptive Damage Control. I own a DS, I will be buying a PSP. I believe the two are different enough to warrant my purchase of both.
 
Their handhelds, of course both are competing. And to answer you're questioin. No

PSP will have the games, the hype, the brand and technology, DS will do well but not enough to beat PSP
 
Seriously, the touch screen introduces gameplay quirks, but don't act like the traditional control setup wasn't ever effective.
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Tell that to my mom or my sister or the other millions of people that fall into 'market potential'.

Nintendo doesn't just want the gaming segment, we're liable to buy one anyway, they want new markets, which if successful means $$$$.
 
DS outsold PSP for the rest of the year in Japan :P

it should be an interesting battle

I just got my DS today and I'm really impressed!
 
Accesibility of the touch screen is one of the reasons but
The key to DS beating the PSP will come down to a number of factors.

The main ones will be backwards compatibility and carry over of the popular
GBA franchises.
 
I dont know, but there were a lot of people asking me about the DS just because i was using the stylus to play. Don't underestimate the simplity of the masses.
 
Belfast said:
Sooo....people will be attracted by this "simplistic" touch screen nonsense because the use of a control pad and buttons they've been experiencing all of these years was just way too complicated?

Seriously, the touch screen introduces gameplay quirks, but don't act like the traditional control setup wasn't ever effective.
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You'd be surprised, older people and non-gamers don't have the coordination to use standard control schemes (I think it's silly personally, but that is not the point here) and for some reason using a stylus makes this easier for them(more natural for them I guess, I'd probalby find it akward at first since I'm used to control pad and buttons).
 
Gattsu25 said:
I've never understood reasoning like this. It's like people actually BELIEVE the PR :(
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One has N64-era graphics, the other has current gen graphics. One has a touch screen, the other doesn't. One has a microphone, the other doesn't. One has two screens, the other doesn't. My tune would change if the DS was the GBA2, which in all likelyhood would be very similar to the PSP.
 
Prine said:
Their handhelds, of course both are competing. And to answer you're questioin. No

PSP will have the games, the hype, the brand and technology, DS will do well but not enough to beat PSP
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NDS has games, hype, GBA-brand association and tecnology also.
 
lockii said:
One has N64-era graphics, the other has current gen graphics. One has a touch screen, the other doesn't. One has a microphone, the other doesn't. One has two screens, the other doesn't. My tune would change if the DS was the GBA2, which in all likelyhood would be very similar to the PSP.
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One has two standard USB ports the ohter doesnt, one comes with a hardrive the other doesnt, one requires memory cards to save the other doesnt, one comes with 4 controler ports the other doesnt, one features hardware DD5.1 ther other doesnt. one has triggers the other doesnt, one has a built in IR reciever the ohter doesnt, one is green the other isnt. ..blah blah blah Xbox and PS2 are in different markets.....RIIIIIGHT.
 
One has N64-era graphics, the other has current gen graphics. One has a touch screen, the other doesn't. One has a microphone, the other doesn't. One has two screens, the other doesn't. My tune would change if the DS was the GBA2, which in all likelyhood would be very similar to the PSP.
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So internal combustion engines and fuel cell cars are not in competition? FC does not go fast enough to be competiton?
 
This is the same line of reasoning Nintendo (fans?) tried to pull with the GC being a pure gaming machine while the PS2 and XBox were entertainment centers meaning the GC wasn't in direct competition.

The DS is a handheld gaming device just like The PSP is a handheld gaming device. Both are handheld gaming devices being released near eachother. Both are currently fighting for developer support. The only thing here that doesn't make sense are the people who refuse to see through their bullshit half-assed reasoning and understand that they are both fighting over a position in the handheld market in both hardware and software.
 
Whether or not they are intended to compete, whether or not they have similar functions, whether or not they are aimed at the same audience, the perception is that they are in competition, so they are in competition.

Take a look at every DS or PSP article written by the mainstream media (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) -- when talking about one, they always talk about the other.
 
They're in competition even if both companies arent willing to admit it. If anything GBASP isnt in competition ;) or beyond the competition shall we say.
 
Prine said:
PSP will have the games, the hype, the brand and technology, DS will do well but not enough to beat PSP
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So you wave off his comment that the DS can beat PSP, but claim the opposite without hesitation?

Why is everybody so sure that the DS is already beaten?
 
PunchJump.com said:
Watching a parent use any kind of technology can be a disaster. A Punch Jump crew member decided to show their mom the DS and see what she thought of it. By show, this meant demonstrate it to her since she wouldn't be able to use it herself - the woman never plays video games and doesn't know how to. After a brief demo of a Super Mario 64 mini-game where players have to use the stylus to knock Mario back up in the air, she wanted to try herself. Sure enough she had the Marios all bouncing back up in the air, knocking the Fly Guys down, and none of the three Marios never fell to their death once.

That amazing feat could not have been accomplished without the instinctive nature of the touch screen. Had the game involved D-pad presses in combinations with buttons and triggers, forget about it. All three Marios would have died after their first jump. Because the control barrier was lifted, the player was able to handle the dynamics of the game properly.
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Remarkably unscientific analysis there. Mom was shown how to play a simple mini-game that features no more than one simple interaction and its hailed as an "amazing feat" that she managed to keep 3 Marios in the air yet without any actual test of the same mini-game with gamepad controls they claim a "control barrier" would have prevented her from succeeding at all. I could've written an article like this a decade ago, about how my mom was shown how to play Columns on the Game Gear and developed both an instant affinity for the controls and an instant liking for the game but perhaps my observations didn't cover a large enough experimental group ;)
 
how many of these anecdotal non-gamers who are inevitably charmed by the touchscreen are actually going to go out and spend $180 on a ds and a game? relying on non-gamers to buy games seems like a pretty shaky proposition. which is probably why the ds is being marketed to postadolescent males even as nintendo's creative people and their fans talk about bringing in a new audience.

i don't know why the phantom non-gamer flashes into view every time someone wants to justify an unorthodox control scheme. it's really very strange.
 
The DS and PSP are directly competing. The simplicity of DS will meet the cool factor of PSP head on. I think it's still not clear which one will come out on top, but Sony's shortage sure isn't helping them.
 
Apples and oranges are most definately in competition for a spot in my diet. Of course they are different, but this notion that you cannot compare unlike things is absurd. What is the point of comparison EXCEPT to discuss the distinction between the dissimilar. What would be the point of comparing apples to apples?
 
DaCocoBrova said:
^^

How? Both are portable, play games... Sold by the same distributors and retailers.

Even the demographics are the same give or take.

I think Nintendo pleaded 'no contest' a while back anyway.
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Are you one of the people who also believes in the third pillar?
 
FriScho said:
PSP will be to NDS what Playstation 1 was to N64.
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I believe this news. Seriously though. The Handheld wars have begun. The two handhels both have their pro/cons;

The DS is a quickly made console though. Nintendo can/will release Gameboy next sooner or later. I do think DS release has/done fuck up public perception if the GBN comes. Who wants to adopt another handheld so soon?

The Gb lasted like 10 fucking years?
 
Gattsu25 said:
This is the same line of reasoning Nintendo (fans?) tried to pull with the GC being a pure gaming machine while the PS2 and XBox were entertainment centers meaning the GC wasn't in direct competition.

The DS is a handheld gaming device just like The PSP is a handheld gaming device. Both are handheld gaming devices being released near eachother. Both are currently fighting for developer support. The only thing here that doesn't make sense are the people who refuse to see through their bullshit half-assed reasoning and understand that they are both fighting over a position in the handheld market in both hardware and software.
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Umm, correct me if I'm wrong here but it's NOT the Nintnedo fans saying they are in different markets here.
 
No, but it will be the key for the GBA to outsell both in the next year, and then pass the torch to GBANext. Nintendo knows why they didn't call the DS a GameBoy.
 
FriScho said:
PSP will be to NDS what Playstation 1 was to N64.
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That comparison has already been shot down based on price, relative release dates, and 3rd party support. I dont think this is anything like PS1 vs. N64.
 
IMO, touch capability can easily be the key, but as of now Nintendo hasn't given any indication that it will be.

6months from now there better be some awsome games that utilize the touchscreen in ways that aren't for "mini-games" or as a stand-in for analog control. I want my menu driven stratagy games (ala starcraft), I want my RPGs, etc etc.
 
TheGreenGiant said:
I believe this news. Seriously though. The Handheld wars have begun. The two handhels both have their pro/cons;

The DS is a quickly made console though. Nintendo can/will release Gameboy next sooner or later. I do think DS release has/done fuck up public perception if the GBN comes. Who wants to adopt another handheld so soon?

The Gb lasted like 10 fucking years?
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If the PSP really takes off and GBA sales drop then the gameboy next will come sooner than later. There's still plenty of life left in the GBA.
 
Tenguman said:
IMO, touch capability can easily be the key, but as of now Nintendo hasn't given any indication that it will be.
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Yeah, I love Mario64 and all.. but I was expecting much more from Nintendo in terms of original software that utilized the touchscreen. Hopefully soon..
 
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