Will humanity ever give up eating meat? When?
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Yes and not only that, we don't eat it responsibly.
This chart is pretty crazy, What It Takes To Make A Quarter-Pound Hamburger:
Meat consumption averages 107 pounds per year.
Just imagine all the meat you eat in one life on one pile...
More info here:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/06/27/155527365/visualizing-a-nation-of-meat-eaters
I wouldn't eat that if you paid me.
That's the only way I would consider eating a steak.
Might as well eat rocks.
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
Yeah, this is a thing that the "meat is mean" folks don't quite grasp. We aren't gonna keep those things around or let 'em loose. What the hell is a "feral cow" or "feral chicken" gonna do? We domesticated them over thousands of years, and they don't flip that switch and become independent of us any more than a puppy would. Some animals can make that jump (pigs, goats), but a lot cannot, and even if they do they become pests (pigs). At best, you just stop letting them breed and feed them until they all die off, and that assumes that people are going to be willing to feed something that no longer has any economic benefit. Pigs make decent pets, but cows and chickens leave a lot to be desired. The most likely scenario is that we go out and kill them all to the last hoof rather than watch them starve. So, I guess they're saved in that there's no more of them except what's in zoos and preserves. Yay PETA.
Pigs make pretty good pets. They're smart animals, but a certain level of obstinance comes with that intelligence. You have to keep them entertained or they will make their own entertainment. They will open refrigerators and eat what they can. They will open cabinets and eat all that shit. They can also have dominance issues, and will attempt to dominate humans and other animals if they aren't socialized and taught that the humans are "top pig" (no shit). You can train them quite easily to respond to commands, to fetch, and to walk on a leash. Basically think of them like a bulldog that isn't an incredible dumbass.
Wat?
And then you point out how siimilar our DNA is and that argument fades away. 3% or w/e difference is a huuuuuuuge difference.
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Exactly this, too. I do wonder if many anti-meat eaters realize that they are arguing for the extinction of domesticated livestock.
Fantastapotamus
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As long as people still willingly smoke, take drugs and drink alcohol: Never.
NullPointer
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I'm going to go out on a limb and predict we'll come up with an alternative to this supposed binary dilemma whereupon factory farming and extinction are the only two choices.
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It's still the end result of the vegetarian argument and the topic of this very thread.
Will humanity ever stop eating meat? If it does, many of those animals will cease to exist.
I agree that factory farming is problematic. I spend most of my food money supporting local sustainable farms where the cows eat only grass.
Isnt there a direct correlation between animal protein consumption and human brain development?
shinobi602
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Nothing's wrong with it to me, we're the top of the food chain. Look at these babies I made recently:
I think it's pretty well supported that our heavy meat diet supported our evolution to the humans we are today.
Yep, we wouldn't be where we are today.
And Vegans still require B12, or they would have nervous system damage.
(Some probably do, cause they didn't research their ethical diet)
They get it through supplements.
Where do you think B12 is extracted from?
That's why vegans are so dumb!
I think I've heard something like that before, but never bookmarked the paper/study. I don't need scientific rationalization to enjoy meat
.I would say that viruses still prey on us... I hope we'll get these fuckers soon too.
How can you kill that which is neither dead, nor alive? Viruses can't make up their minds!
Yes and not only that, we don't eat it responsibly.
Meat consumption averages 107 pounds per year.
Just imagine all the meat you eat in one life on one pile...
More info here:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/06/27/155527365/visualizing-a-nation-of-meat-eaters
Kind of interesting to see where Luxenbourg and Australia ended up being....
Xdrive05
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I've read that some vegans actually do okay without the B12 supplements, because they can potentially get it from eating leafy vegetables. Why's that? Because of the insect wing and leg particulates which are never *completely* washed from the folds of said veggies. Could be bullshit, but a funny thought either way.
Yes and not only that, we don't eat it responsibly.
This chart is pretty crazy, What It Takes To Make A Quarter-Pound Hamburger:
Meat consumption averages 107 pounds per year.
Just imagine all the meat you eat in one life on one pile...
More info here:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/06/27/155527365/visualizing-a-nation-of-meat-eaters
Now I'm imagining a massive mountain of meat.
It's making me hungry.
I live near Luxembourg, gotta ask them what the hell is up with that
This is a one million state that can't even produce lots of meat...
It's probably because they eat a lot in restaurants.
Yes, that would be the first step. I don't really see that happening though, unless there's pressure from the state at some point. Most people (in this thread) don't even consider sustainability, so there's that...
There is a way to do it, eat unwashed veggies like cattle do with grass.
It's the dirt, we usually wash that all away.
(The cattle absorbs the B12 and gives it to us)
Also Marmite is another Vegan friendly way to do it without supplements.
But how would our ancestors know how to do this?
We're only here because they ate what was needed to survive properly.
Score! Suck it vegetables.
Isn't vitamin d deficiency also an issue for vegetarians/vegans?
That's why vegans are so dumb!
I think I've heard something like that before, but never bookmarked the paper/study. I don't need scientific rationalization to enjoy meat
Nor should you. If god didnt want you to eat bacon then why'd he make it so tasty?
B12 supplements are largely made from modified yeast, at least it was last time I checked.
You do get it more in non-vegan food.
But some fruits an veggies contain it.
Which can then be extracted and put into supplements.
Living on supplements is not a way for most people to live though.
As it's not cost effective.
It's a 1st world thing.
I was considering being a vegan at one point, but I researched it as much as I could.
Didn't want to harm my body because of a poor diet.
The one diet I'd probably go down to is Pescatarian.
Seems pretty well balanced and more sustainable.
I put that in a post above. (marmite)
dark_chris
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I'll keep eating meat. I'm eating a cow right now.
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
They also ate raw meat which we moved past. But that's not the point. The point is that nothing you write in this paragraph in any way, shape or form argues why we should eat meat now when there's options that gives us as much sustenance, especially if you start discussing ethics. Of course we're only talking about people who have the option to do so without. Your argument seems as valid to me as it would be to argue for oil instead of working for alternative energy resources (preferably working and efficient such, then) because we've used it to achieve some great things, pollution aside.
I entirely disagree that you'd harm your body being vegan. While the cost might be a more valid point (I'm not sure, I've never researched the cost), a vegan diet with proper supplements is entirely healthy and sustainable.
NullPointer
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That's a pretty decent analogy.
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other countries that have to live off the land are in their right. I understand their meat consumption. For the first world? never. the first world is too ungrateful and apathetic. most people have little care for their personal health. want to fill themselves with fast food (there are people on this forum that talk about new wendy's burgers in their free time). in general humanity will continue to eat meat until a corporation is able to make something in a lab that is more processed (and super cheap to produce) and give everyone cancer.
We are moving towards that though.
Lab grown meat will become more sustainable due to the land required for livestock.
Living on supplements is not the answer.
Also testing on animals has been used for so many things that helped us get we are too...
(We can now use robots, well not for everything)
Organic Vegans are in line to destroy the earth just as much as people that need land for livestock.
The land required for organic produce can't be ignored.
We'd have to ask half the human population to starve.
(they're starving already, but that's due to greed)
GMO produce is the only way we can feed our growing population...
I meant it that, if I didn't do the research, I'd harm myself by doing the diet improperly, like a lot of vegans do.
(Some people just jump in, not knowing how to do it properly)
You should refrain from such comments, if you are only using superficial knowledge...
There isn't some magic brain-growing ingredient in meat, it was just an important factor for carb intake, combined with cooked food and other factors.
"At the core of this research is the understanding that the modern human brain consumes 20 percent of the body’s energy at rest, twice that of other primates. Meat and cooked foods were needed to provide the necessary calorie boost to feed a growing brain."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...4d36de-326d-11e2-bb9b-288a310849ee_story.html
That's also why morbidly obese people don't become super geniuses...
Interesting. How much harder is it to follow that diet without supplements?
That's not meat. 😉How bout that though
GameAddict411
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i love eating meat and i don't think its wrong in any way, the strong kills the weak, this also applies to wild animals. so why we should be any different?
Because we CAN be. Animals only kill "the weak" because they need it to survive. We don't.
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a lot of people itt eat stuff like that regularly
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