I wouldn't eat that if you paid me.
That's the only way I would consider eating a steak.
man, what a terrisus post
on-topic: never. i literally refuse.
Will humanity ever give up eating meat? When?
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man, what a terrisus post
on-topic: never. i literally refuse.
Most people would starve to death if they were dropped in the wilderness with a traditional longbow or spear. Probably you included if you are not already a bow hunter/outdoorsman. Not a skill you pick up in a week.
I think cows and pigs would have to evolve to a point where they can tell us not to eat them, or if there were like an animal political party with non-human animals that convinced us to stop eating meat. Or if our technology led us to reading animals' minds, and especially if humans developed into a hive mind or singularity, or a singularity WITH the other animals that decided to stop eating meat.
Hippos, gorillas and orangutans have sharp teeth too.
Gorillas and orangutans have their eyes in the same position as us as well.
Yet none of these go and wrangle a cow and take them down to eat. Actually that's wrong - hippos do kill other animals from time to time but they won't eat them.
Also this:
Arkos
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Lol seriously, I should have known Terrisus would have a problem with this.
Also, when will the sun rise in the west and set in the east? When will the tides cease to rise and fall? When will time run backwards and pigs fly in rainbow airplanes?
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Also this:
Meat was important to pre-agricutural humans, but I think it gets up-played by stuff like the paleo diet and similar fad diets. Also, a lot of that meat protein was coming from stuff like insects, and small mammals, birds and lizards that most North Americans and Europeans wouldn't touch unless they were starving to death.
Squirrel Killer
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You assume incorrectly.
dinazimmerman
Incurious Bastard
Not anytime soon, so don't worry about it.
Chimps eat meat though, and they're closer to us than either of those species.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
When it stops being delicious...
Green Mamba
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This chart is bothering me. By "carnivores" I assume they're talking about hyper-carnivorous land mammals, and most of those all belong to a single order, so of course they're going to have a specific set of anatomical features very different from our own. It seems... disingenuous.
Seems? Lol, looks pretty transparent to me, but I find it interesting that we're omnivores in-spite of it all anyway.
Raonak
Banned
Sooner or later, when 3D printers become near perfect, we'll be able to download foods from the Super-Internet and print it out to eat. There's gonna be no need to kill animals for food when we can just print food that tastes exactly like real fried chicken.
So theoretically soon?
Downside is that once we learn to create delicious foods without killing animals, then said animals would probably go extinct.
I don't really have a problem eating meat, plants are also living and not that different from animals in the grand scheme of things. Making a line between plants and animals seems arbitrary to me. Factory farms are fucked up though, ill agree with that.
So theoretically soon?
Downside is that once we learn to create delicious foods without killing animals, then said animals would probably go extinct.
I don't really have a problem eating meat, plants are also living and not that different from animals in the grand scheme of things. Making a line between plants and animals seems arbitrary to me. Factory farms are fucked up though, ill agree with that.
JasonUresti
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We know that we don't need meat. We could survive perfectly well without it and still have a healthy diet. We know that killing all these delicious animals is purely to satisfy our taste.
I fucking love eating meat. It's rare that I ever go a day without eating meat. It's pretty much impossible that I'm going to give up eating it in my lifetime. Yet I know it's wrong. I accept my hypocrisy. I assume there are many, if not most like me. Then there are the people who try to rationalize the industry of animal death catered to our particular, unnecessary appetites.
When (if ever) do you see humans having converted to an animal-free diet? How long till we're looked back as on as cruel barbarians by our future ancestors who will never know the sweet taste of a perfectly cooked steak?
What is wrong with it? Why is destroying one kind of organism for sustenance ok, but not another?
rokkerkory
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Sooooo missing out lol
Devolution
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You can take my hawaiian/korean bbq short ribs from my cold dead hands.
NullPointer
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My point stands though ;p
marimorimo
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When critters at the lower end of the food chain start vocally complaining about being eaten not only by humans, but by every other living thing that needs to eat another living thing to survive.
This includes bacteria.
This includes bacteria.
Humanity will stop when we run out of meat or when science has made an organism that just forms the meat we consume in parts like in Oryx and Crake.
I personally do not feel good eating meat knowing that it was a living being that has more often than not been killed in a non-humane way and I am not sure how some people just don't care about that as if animals are just stock and not living things. For myself I would love to just wean myself off of meat and eventually have a no meat diet. Since I love animals deeply I feel like my current diet is a total conflict of interest.
I would never shit on people for eating meat (unless they were blatant "I don't give a shit about what i'm eating and anyone who cares is an idiot" 'meatatarians') because it is a staple in society unfortunately, but I would push for companies to treat their animals in a more humane way before they take their life for consumption.
I personally do not feel good eating meat knowing that it was a living being that has more often than not been killed in a non-humane way and I am not sure how some people just don't care about that as if animals are just stock and not living things. For myself I would love to just wean myself off of meat and eventually have a no meat diet. Since I love animals deeply I feel like my current diet is a total conflict of interest.
I would never shit on people for eating meat (unless they were blatant "I don't give a shit about what i'm eating and anyone who cares is an idiot" 'meatatarians') because it is a staple in society unfortunately, but I would push for companies to treat their animals in a more humane way before they take their life for consumption.
Freezasaurus
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Wait, what? Why would we ever want to?
That's just silly.
That's just silly.
terrisus
Member
Sure, it would shake up the entire industry. But people would still buy the real thing.
For example would your girlfriend rather have a lab created diamond, or the real thing? Why do people buy Alienware computers instead of non branded? If you had one of the best restaurants in the world, would you pay a higher price to serve "real" meat? Do you not think people would "imagine" real meat tastes better?
There would still be a bunch of money to be made killing animals, so it would still happen.
NullPointer
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No longer needing the apparatus of the mass factory farming of meat would make me very happy. Those are startlingly horrific conditions to put other living creatures through.
We're not nearly at that point yet though.
I'm going to Bovine University!
CrimsonCrescendo
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Hippos, gorillas and orangutans have sharp teeth too.
Gorillas and orangutans have their eyes in the same position as us as well.
Yet none of these go and wrangle a cow and take them down to eat. Actually that's wrong - hippos do kill other animals from time to time but they won't eat them.
Also this:
Sources for some of this info? The PH level for humans is 1 to 3 depending on the person not 4 to 5 (that would mean that human gastric juice isn't much more acidic than human skin) from what I can find.
what in the... we shouldn't do stuff just because animals do it too, is all I'm saying.
triplestation
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when it is proposed that our biological make up should be modified to change how we behave
depression will be cleared from the list of human experience and our taste buds and anatomy will be altered to prefer a plant exclusive diet, hot women will eagerly seek average/below average men
depression will be cleared from the list of human experience and our taste buds and anatomy will be altered to prefer a plant exclusive diet, hot women will eagerly seek average/below average men
rokkerkory
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I eat either fish, chicken, beef... Etc each day. Yums!!!
Dongs Macabre
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I should have been more clear. I meant that there wouldn't be any valid reasons for it. Of course there would still be tons of confirmation bias and stuff.
Pigs? Definitely.
"There are two instances in the 2000s where farm hogs ate human beings. The first was in 2004 in Romania, where half of a woman's face was consumed, the other in 2012 in Oregon, whether the farmer was killed by his pig or whether there was another incident, like a heart attack, after which he was consumed by his pigs."
Freezasaurus
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I certainly understand the ethical dilemma the meat industry creates. I just can't imagine not eating meat. It's so delicious.
Freezasaurus
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Well, we eat them so often, it only feels fair that they get to chow down on one or two of us now and then.
TheRedSnifit
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Never. I'm a firm believer in Plants' Rights.
Squirrel Killer
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Milton Mills MD is the associate director of preventive medicine for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, apparently a think tank promoting the four food groups, you know; fruit, legumes, whole grains, and vegetables.
And The Comparative Anatomy of Eating is, as best as I can tell, an non-peer reviewed Word document found on the internet.
SliceSabre
Banned
When animals stop being so damn tasty after being roasted.
Smiles and Cries
Member
photos of meat make me hungry
photos of a salad does nothing for me, I wonder why?
photos of a salad does nothing for me, I wonder why?
It sure is an interesting thing to think about. Steak, bacon and mince are all too good to readily give up! Though I look forward to the day that 'chicken in a can' is something that we all enjoy due to it being some form of artificial creation, instead of being repulsed by, lol.
It sure is an interesting thing to think about. Steak, bacon and mince are all too good to readily give up! Though I look forward to the day that 'chicken in a can' is something that we all enjoy due to it being some form of artificial creation, instead of being repulsed by, lol.
Here's another one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/italian-mafia-boss-fed-alive-pigs-article-1.1531798
Green Mamba
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I was trying to be somewhat nice. You're right, it's completely disingenuous. Leaves out quite a bit of relevant information.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Explain this healthy vegan lifestyle first? Because being a vegan is anything but healthy and you really can't see an issue with a world where human health is dependant on a vitamin industry to supplement poor diets?
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Of course it is. Just look at the source.
JJDinomite
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I don't need gaming, might as well give it up :/
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I assume when/if exploration/settlement of other planets becomes viable we're not going to bother bringing animals when growing food requires much less water and require much less effort than raising animals.
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