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MThanded

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Zen

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Milchjon said:
There goes another positive example. Is a successful long-time marriage really impossible? It's really hard to keep your romantic notions alive these days...


Don't put Hollywood marraiges on high. People have these really engrandised notions of what the rich and powerful are like, and that they use those perfect preconceptions as a comfort blanket. The reality is that these two people are just people, and they had to deal with stressors arguably just as bad if not worse than your typical marriage.

Money and success do not equal perfection, and the fact that this couple is getting a divorce in spite or making millions of dollars should in no reasonable way shake a persons faith in marriage.
 

Gui_PT

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Apoc87 said:
that's what happens when you let your husband sleep with other women on the road.

and whore out your offspring to add to your already tall mountain of cash.

didn't care for these people

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Zen

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Smiles and Cries said:
Trey Smith is never in these family photos
sad

Who?

Yeah, although it could be his choice? Who knows really. Not everyone wants the spotlight.
 
Zen said:
Money and success do not equal perfection, and the fact that this couple is getting a divorce in spite or making millions of dollars should in no reasonable way shake a persons faith in marriage.
I'm not sure why you'd be surprised.

As we discussed in the Neuroscience thread, people associate wealth with security and stability...because money is the most obvious difference between them and the rich.

And really...if you can't make it as a couple with the safety, stability and security that comes with billions (not millions) of dollars, there's a real problem.
 

kodecraft

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SUPREME1 said:
They can't make money off of Trey. He's too old and average looking.



I don't think Trey and Will have the best of a relationship....Trey probably ain't f^ckin with his dad due to some behind the scenes stuff with his mom.



Real talk.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
And really...if you can't make it as a couple with the safety, stability and security that comes with billions (not millions) of dollars, there's a real problem.
Money is a significant stressor, whether you have it or not. How to make it, how to keep it, how to spend it, how to deal with the people around you who want a piece. It's always a problem, especially if you and your spouse have different ideas on how to handle it.

In other words, mo money, mo problems.
 

Zen

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Dreams-Visions said:
I'm not sure why you'd be surprised.

As we discussed in the Neuroscience thread, people associate wealth with security and stability...because money is the most obvious difference between them and the rich.

And really...if you can't make it as a couple with the safety, stability and security that comes with billions (not millions) of dollars, there's a real problem.

People associate wealth with security because it is the perception that wealth offers abolute security and that the trade offs for that wealth must be negligible, neither of which are the case. Time and time again, the Hollywood lifestlye and constantly being in the media eye creates a lot of problems in marriages and no one should be surprised to hear that a superstar couple, one of whom is consistently extremely busy with film projects, eventually falls apart.

Mutanthands said:
Money is a significant stressor, whether you have it or not. How to make it, how to keep it, how to spend it, how to deal with the people around you who want a piece. It's always a problem, especially if you and your spouse have different ideas on how to handle it.

In other words, mo money, mo problems.

Well said.
 
Zen said:
People associate wealth with security because it is the perception that wealth offers abolute security and that the trade offs for that wealth must be negligible, neither of which are the case. Time and time again, the Hollywood lifestlye and constantly being in the media eye creates a lot of problems in marriages and no one should be surprised to hear that a superstar couple, one of whom is consistently extremely busy with film projects, eventually falls apart.
I agree. Yet people saw this situation differently. They've always come off as very happy with each other, their family and their pursuits. Never has either of their names been associated with abuse (domestic or drug), discontent or cheating. It's been said (supposedly by them) that they even have an open relationship and don't deny each other sex with others if really needed. They keep their relationship fresh and ever-evolving.

As recently as a couple months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUdXcqA4aT8

All things considered, if this is true it's going to be one of the biggest divorce surprises in a long, long time. It makes you think something must have happened very recently. That, or this is all tabloid bullshit.

Mutanthands said:
Money is a significant stressor, whether you have it or not. How to make it, how to keep it, how to spend it, how to deal with the people around you who want a piece. It's always a problem, especially if you and your spouse have different ideas on how to handle it.

In other words, mo money, mo problems.
I doubt money-spending was a problem of theirs. They're in BILLION-dollar territory, bro. Jada wanted to do her TV show and Will supported. Will did the Overbook thing and Jada was right there.

Also, they're both relatively down-to-earth. I don't know anyone who knows or has met them that got an impression that they were anything but really sweet people who didn't change with wealth.
 
Maybe Jada finally watched "The Karate Kid" and realized she'd done the world wrong.

Dreams-Visions said:
It's been said (supposedly by them) that they even have an open relationship and don't deny each other sex with others if really needed. They keep their relationship fresh and ever-evolving.

And perhaps they'll still have sex at times.. still be friends.. still help raise their children together.

Divorce isn't the end of the world, especially for mature people.

Perhaps they just don't like being around each other as much as they used to, and/or lost a romantic connection.
 
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They seriously were my role model marriage couple. Can't believe I've been living a lie. They seemed so perfect.
 

Takuan

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Open marriage stuff was apparently talked about in a UK magazine, Reveal:

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/p....php/Will_Smith_and_Jada_reveal_open_marriage

I know they've spoken about it in television interviews, too. I just don't remember which show/interview, because I don't really follow celebrity shows and whatnot, I just happened to be on the channel at the time. I thought this was pretty common knowledge and am surprised to see so many people quick to shoot it down.

The quotes in the article are perfectly logical, but in practice you'll be hard-pressed to find a man or woman that would be OK with their partner expressing and acting on physical attraction to another party. This could be a moot point, however, since it seems that the split may just be another rumor.

Jada on a morning radio show said:
We always have people that we’re attracted to that we talk about. That don’t stop just because your married. Somebody’s always gonna catch your eye. That’s real. Somebody’s gonna always be prettier than me, and somebody’s always gonna be more in awe of him than me, and he gonna be like *in Will’s voice* ‘yo she really like me’ (laughter) but as far as somebody being right for us… is there somebody right for a nice night? Maybe. But somebody that can sustain our life and sustain what we’ve built together, absolutely not!
There's no clear acceptance of her being ok with him going out and having sex with whoever he wants, but the fact that she accepts that he will be attracted to another person combined with Will's own words about the issue makes it plausible that, yes, they do have an open marriage. Obviously, the issue is sensitive enough to their image that they don't want to outright say it.
 
Jada Pinkett “I don’t have an open marriage and no, we’re not gay – and you don’t trust that? Well then there’s nothing that I really have to say to anybody about anything, because at the end of the day, I’m living my life, and I’m happy.”
 

Enosh

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It's been said (supposedly by them) that they even have an open relationship and don't deny each other sex with others if really needed.
does that ever actualy work out o.k.?
 
Takuan said:

I dunno.. that does not sound like they have an actual open relationship.

He mostly is talking about how they are open about calling other people attractive.

"I'll tell my wife if I need to have sex with someone else."

Could be taken 2 ways.. 1 way to read that sentence is that he's never actually had sex outside the marriage, but that he would be honest about it.

His later quote seems to suggest that is true.. about how he says "He wouldn't know how to feel" if she expressed such a desire.

Open marriage that is NOT.

The quotes in the article are perfectly logical, but in practice you'll be hard-pressed to find a man or woman that would be OK with their partner expressing and acting on physical attraction to another party.

Not true.. I am currently in a relationship where my girlfriend outright desires I find other girls.. even on my own.. with some goal to bring them home, but it's not necessary. (we have had a couple of 3somes)

That isn't all that unique.. I've had 2 ex girlfriend besides her express a desire to watch me with another woman.. or get turned on when I tell them about girls flirting. One of those relationships involved into us having multiple 3somes.

Although this new relationship is the first time I've actually outright had sex with another girl when my girlfriend wasn't there. She loved it though. She doesn't do the same, nor does she desire to.. and I don't think I'd be comfortable with it. It's not a double standard because she has no expectation, and I don't expect her to allow me to have sex with other girls.. it's just quite literally what she wants. And who am I to argue? It adds to our sex life.

What Will is talking about is an honest relationship, not an open relationship.
 
Jesus Christ.

If these two can't stay together, I don't have faith in other Hollywood marriages.

I'm not sure what's going on behind the scenes, but I do feel sort of bad for a couple that I've never even met before.
 

dskillzhtown

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kodecraft said:
I don't think Trey and Will have the best of a relationship....Trey probably ain't f^ckin with his dad due to some behind the scenes stuff with his mom.



Real talk.


Orrrr.....He just doesn't want to be in the public spotlight.
 

dskillzhtown

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YoungHav said:
How do you fuck up an open marriage? Both sides should have continued to be happy.


What if Jada hooked up with a dude that she didn't want to share with anyone and wanted to commit exclusively to. Or what if Will found someone he felt that way about? That is the gamble you take when you introduce swinging or an open marriage. Your spouse may meet someone she likes more than you.
 

Chamber

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dskillzhtown said:
What if Jada hooked up with a dude that she didn't want to share with anyone and wanted to commit exclusively to. Or what if Will found someone he felt that way about? That is the gamble you take when you introduce swinging or an open marriage. Your spouse may meet someone she likes more than you.
And then there are those times people break up for reasons unrelated to sex.
 
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