rodrigolfp
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Not when the DVD drive is garbage tier and will stop reading discs.
Will Switch 1 Dethrone PS2 sales?
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You live in an absolute fantasy bubble. Sad.
Holy shit the more and more of your posts I read the more I am convinced you're either an idiot, or this is a great troll thread. Can't tell.
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Deerock71
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The NDS sold 155ish million systems before the mobile/tablet trend even began. Do you guys even think about what you're typing before you post?
Team Skoda
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And it STILL didn't beat the PS2 either. Isn't that the whole point of this pissing contest numbers thread? your trigger defensiveness over Nintendo explains everything. Lol
CIA leaked documents suggest Sony actually invented a portal to Mars and sold another 20million systems. Unfortunately Sony was suppressed from telling us for national security reasons.
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See that's just you saying things, nintendo consoles have typical achieved between 5 and 20 % of their total sales after their successor launches,
Wii sold around 5 million after the wiiu launch
Ds sold 8 million after 3ds
3Ds sold 10 million after switch
Gba sold like 15 million after the ds
700 million third party games, excluding digital only games
Switch was already on selling faster than ps4 before covid
I wouldn't call it trigger defensiveness when I am responding to completely idiotic takes. No one claimed NDS outsold PS2. I was correcting your horrible take about Switch only being successful because it piggybacks off of mobile gaming success, which is a ridiculous thing to say considering Nintendo had a massively successfully handheld system before the mobile/ipad gaming revolution even began.
NeverYouMind
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Except it is not. Mine still works flawlessly. Just needs a clean environment. It will probably stop being able to read PS1 discs a decade before DVDs are an issue because it is made for DVDs.
You take a look at the Switch and know the screen will degrade, the battery will swell, the card reader will become unusable, and the joysticks will drift.
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Hero_Select
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Yeah and even more people bought the PS2 just to use it as a DVD player because it was the cheapest one around.The Switch 1 had the benefit of the covid boost inflating it's numbers, in addition to being a handheld.
I knew countless people who purchased one because they needed something to do, during the lockdowns.
Mind you, these people had zero interest in games and haven't touched their Switch's in years, post-covid.
Switch 1 sales have come to a sharp halt these last few years, and it's barely moving units now that the Switch 2 is out.
PS2 will remain the highest selling home console for the foreseeable future, and possibly ever.
Also, fyi, produced =/= sold, as much as sony and fanboys want that to be true.
For every console produced there is backstock kept for repairs as well
As much as people on here have a hateboner for Nintendo, The Switch sold what it did without a price drop which is pretty insane. How much was the PS2 towards the end? 99$?
Instant_Classic
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The DS was the start of attempting to open gaming to a broader market.
Do you even know a thing about gaming history?
The Switch sales are not that impressive considering the world's population is almost double in size, since the PS2 days.
You may not remember or even been born, but a combination of the DS, Wii, CoD 4, and the smartphone craze caused the gaming industry to explode in popularity.
It went from being something nerds did, to now something everyone did.
The PS2 did not have this cultural shift on its side, when achieving 160.6 million units sold.
You welcome
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Lokaum D+
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its a fair point but in my 40 years of life a never saw a person using a PS2 as a DVD player, not once.
DenchDeckard
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It took over 13 years for the ps2 to sell 160 mill and consoles were dirt cheap.
Switch is way more impressive and deserves the crown. Maybe it does it, i dunno. I'd place money that if its manufactured for over 13 years and on sale for longer it would.
Switch is way more impressive and deserves the crown. Maybe it does it, i dunno. I'd place money that if its manufactured for over 13 years and on sale for longer it would.
kevboard
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the fuck? did you live on mars during the early 2000s?
Instant_Classic
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My post from a few minutes earlier highlights why this isn't quite the accomplishment for the Switch, you think it is.
Instant_Classic
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He's right.
I have never whether it be in college or not at work, seen anyone talk about the Switch.
People bought that thing for Animal Crossing or Smash, used it for like a week or two and forgot about it.
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Hero_Select
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ah so it must not be true then. First hand witness.
I dont think anyone bought an Xbox either because I don't know anyone who owned one.
Yeah let's just ignore the GOTY's and plethora of 10million+ sellers. Lol.
Instant_Classic
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I had an OG Xbox + Xbox Live, trust me plenty of people owned one.
Just not toddlers, it was a teen-adult console.
The only games that sold on Switch were Nintendo made, 3rd parties didn't enjoy much success.
3rd parties did great on PS2, and the system sold based on the variety of games available.
The Switch sold because of the usual generic recycled games of Nintendo.
Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Pokeman sequels.
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Hero_Select
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Way to let a sarcastic comment completely prove my point lmfao.
My god some of you really need any form of validation in your life that you'll fight to the death for your box of choice.
"Switch only sold because of pandemic and its a handheld too"
What about the PS2 being a really cheap DVD player at the height of the formats popularity
"I dont know anyone who used it like that, fake news"
Do you guys not hear yourself? Completely idiotic lmfao
Horseganador
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It depends on how NS2 affects the sales of the first one, but it's difficult.
Lokaum D+
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no, i live in Brazil, here video games are for games, i said "I NEVER SAW" that's a ME experience and most ppl i know never played a single DVD on their PS2, me included, never said it wanst used for DVD purpose, its was just not my experience, you guys needs to stop getting buthurted for everything,
Also, a DVD player over here was way more cheaper than a PS2 back in 2000s.
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Sevyne
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Both sides in this whole debate are hilarious. Both consoles achieved incredible numbers in their respective eras.
People really overstate the "covid bump" for Switch. That console just ended up having a certain appeal that spoke to more casual non-gamers similar to the Wii, so it pulled from both crowds. It was going to sell well, covid or no.
PS2 was sold during a time before every single soccer mom was a "gamer". Also discrediting it because of the price drop is something too. Do remember that wages were also like between half or a third of what they are now. Like in my state, the last year of PS2 minimum wage was like $7, and in 2025 it's like $18.
Why this has to be some dick-waving contest is beyond my understanding. Do any of you gain a thing if one is declared a "winner" or what?
People really overstate the "covid bump" for Switch. That console just ended up having a certain appeal that spoke to more casual non-gamers similar to the Wii, so it pulled from both crowds. It was going to sell well, covid or no.
PS2 was sold during a time before every single soccer mom was a "gamer". Also discrediting it because of the price drop is something too. Do remember that wages were also like between half or a third of what they are now. Like in my state, the last year of PS2 minimum wage was like $7, and in 2025 it's like $18.
Why this has to be some dick-waving contest is beyond my understanding. Do any of you gain a thing if one is declared a "winner" or what?
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Syphon Filter
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I used to think it wont but yes it willl pass it.
DenchDeckard
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Oh shit, youre one of them.....
Literally nintendos best generation for output and its the "usual recycled games of Nintendo"
And claiming the population has doubled since october 2000! Lol also not taking into the account of where most of that population has increased is country's like India and Africa....... where there's not many switches or ps2s being sold....probably more ps2s now tbh
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blacktout
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I know everyone is already dogpiling you over this, and I shouldn't bother but, my god, this is possibly the most insane thing I have ever read on NeoGAF.
The Switch sold 21 million units in the fiscal year that ended in March 2020 just as the pandemic was starting, and 23 million units in the FY that ended in March 2022, which was mostly post-lockdown.
Meanwhile, it sold just under 29 million units in the peak pandemic fiscal year of April 2020 to March 2021.
So even if you assume 2020 would have been level with the surrounding years and all excess is from a pandemic bump (which isn't necessarily the case because it was already likely to be the peak year for the system), you're only talking about around 8 million units max. That's less than 1/3 of its sales for the pandemic period, not 70 fucking percent.
Edit: And this is being generous and assuming that by "total sales" you mean "total sales during the pandemic" and not "total lifetime sales," because, Jesus Christ.
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graywolf323
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it's just console wars by fanboys
ShadyAcshuns
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It already is because Sony pulled a bunch of fake numbers out of their ass.
Definitely a troll thread.
I'm not gonna respond to your posts anymore because it's wrong to punch down and you clearly lack... something.
Your posts read like AI being told to add a dash of stupidity.
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Instant_Classic
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You do realize the purpose of the DS/Wii were to bring gamers to people who actually didn't play games, right?
The DS was a great system, but it definitely was an attempt of Nintendo to try to encourage more people to get into gaming.
Wii Sports happened a few years later + CoD 4, and the rest is history.
There is no trolling here...
Gaming is way bigger and acceptable now, than when the PS2 released.
Study up more on gaming history.
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touchfuzzy
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No way man, don't you know a thing about gaming history? The DS was Nintendo's first attempt at opening gaming to a broader market with a handheld gaming system. Definitely.
Instant_Classic
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Nintendo even made a name for the particular strategy, it's called "Blue Ocean".
It began with the DS/Wii.
touchfuzzy
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Something something study up more on gaming history.
Instant_Classic
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LOL, the Gameboy released during a time when gaming and computers in general were something for geeks/nerds.
The average person back during those days, did not game.
It's only in the last 15 - 20 years where being a nerd is considered "cool".
Instant_Classic
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I don't need to study up on anything, this from experience.
I have asked numerous boomers if they were gamers, during the NES/SNES days.
The common answer is "no".
Gamers in the 80s were predominantly children who's parents got them a system, or super nerds.
Speaking from real life experience.
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
OP are you ok? Is everything alright at home?
Are you a time traveller from 20 years ago? Because this thread reads like something from that era.
It's just missing "Celda".
Are you a time traveller from 20 years ago? Because this thread reads like something from that era.
It's just missing "Celda".
touchfuzzy
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Exactly - and it was a wild success with the casual market, they sold almost 120 million of the things back when no gaming platform sold like that at all. It's best selling game is one of the most iconic and broadly appealing mass market games ever created. All while being technically far inferior to its competitors. You can't pretend the Game Boy wasn't an attempt to appeal to an untapped casual gaming market.
Instant_Classic
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There wasn't a casual market in the 80s of gaming.
The Gameboy was an attempt of Nintendo to tap into the portable market of gaming, period.
It worked!
DenchDeckard
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Ok, youre not a real person are you?
Instant_Classic
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What about that post is not real?
Maybe you weren't around for anything mentioned in it.
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World population 2000 6.1 billion
Now 8.1 billion,
Not exactly double or even close plus us western Europe and Japan had far less to negative growth
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Ftfy.
Nope. The "Blue Ocean" thing started with the Wii and it's "exercises" and the Balance Board games. DS that came way before has nothing to do with this.
Of course, as I've been stating for a few years now. It will end up over 170 million units. My bet, is that there are enough Switch consoles, sitting on store shelves around the world to have already surpassed the PS2, nevermind Nintendo shipping more for the holidays.
It was never going to be difficult to achieve this, once Nintendo combined their handheld/Console division into the streamlined beast it is today.
As the years go by, I expect gliding by the PS2 total, will become a right of passage for Nintendo consoles.
It was never going to be difficult to achieve this, once Nintendo combined their handheld/Console division into the streamlined beast it is today.
As the years go by, I expect gliding by the PS2 total, will become a right of passage for Nintendo consoles.
Instant_Classic
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You think the Switch 2 will "glide" by PS2 sales?
GoldenEye98
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The price increases won't help but I think price of the Switch 2 is still far enough away and the fact that many games are still releasing on Switch 1 may move another 5-10M units by the end of it.
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