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I know we have a ms guy here but was wondering if anybody knows if there will be a community submission process to get websites whitelisted so they can be added to the sites allowed to display flash content.

I have to imagine that will continue to grow the list but a few sites I visit will not use the builtin flash and would be cool if I could submit that to ms so they could do whatever testing they need to in order to add that as a valid website.

I notice my local news will not display its flash video as well as giantbomb.

I find myself wanting to never leave the metro ie.... kinda crazy how its much smoother it is than even chrome and chrome was the gold standard in terms of responsiveness but everything on the desktop has these little delays that I never noticed until using win8/metro ie.
 
Does the bottom right pixel do anything in desktop mode? I can't figure out if it does or not If not, I sure would like for the Show Desktop button to extend to cover it...
 
joshschw said:
Does the bottom right pixel do anything in desktop mode? I can't figure out if it does or not If not, I sure would like for the Show Desktop button to extend to cover it...
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Does the same thing as the top right, brings up the charm bar.
 
StudioTan said:
Does the same thing as the top right, brings up the charm bar.
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Yeah, but I meant clicking it. It could still bring up the Charms bar even if that one pixel also showed the desktop, it could even Aero Peek and show the Charms bar. I am sure they initially put the show desktop 'button' there to begin with because it is easy access. That's one biggest problem so far, I tend to use that a lot.
 
I've got a problem in Win8. After installing it my video playback is very choppy (both youtube videos and movies I have on my HDD). Is it the GPU driver? I use laptop (Intel HD3000 + Nvidia 520MX) and I've updated all video drivers.

Edit: only VLC is playing videos fine, kmplayer is struggling.
 
Picobrain said:
I've got a problem in Win8. After installing it my video playback is very choppy (both youtube videos and movies I have on my HDD). Is it the GPU driver? I use laptop (Intel HD3000 + Nvidia 520MX) and I've updated all video drivers.

Edit: only VLC is playing videos fine, kmplayer is struggling.
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You should uninstall the NVidia driver unless it's made after the RP came out. Nvidia has been sketchy and keeps pushing back the drivers for the RP. I have been running my GT330M without a driver and it's been fine, I'm waiting for the new driver to install.
 
Office 2010 in the store
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Complex Shadow said:
looks worse than normal chrome for windows seven. at least chrome for windows seven would inherit what ever skin your using (even though that wouldn't work for metro. but lets face it, this isn't even metro anymore).
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I don't see this being final, the blog posts says it is working to make it touch friendly and that hopefully means it will be more than a skin.
 
More Motmail webapp screenshots.
German website WinFuture.de managed to get hold of several clear screenshots of the new Metro-style Hotmail, clearly showing how the interface looks like. Check them out below:


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As you can see, the header of the new Metro-styled Hotmail seems to have turned blue, instead of green as shown yesterday, but we believe that’s supposed to change. The menu options such as composing new e-mail, or formatting options, has been moved to the header. The top-left corner will now feature the search box, and this will be consistent throughout Hotmail, SkyDrive, People and Calendar. Unfortunately, the right-hand bar was not loaded in the screenshots, and hence we’re unable to see exactly what it will show there.
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http://www.liveside.net/2012/06/08/more-screenshots-of-metro-style-hotmail-leaked/
 
kazinova said:
Man, those comments...so annoying. For once in the past 12 years Microsoft has a vision and direction for how they want their operating system to look and feel and they're going for it. One step at a time, but they're doing it.

Just 'cause there's no Jobsian figurehead to suckle at the teat of, people are being way too resisting.
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Or could it be possible that people feel their vision sucks?

I'd have to say I don't see Microsoft having very much direction, they just have conviction to risk OS marketshare. They see the writing on the wall. I don't blame them for trying to converge the markets, but I sure as hell don't have to like it. I'm certainly feeling less loyalty on the development side. Their development tool support sucks, constantly forcing you to use new versions and charging a couple of hundred bucks a seat to do it (even ignoring the costs of having to update all your build environments). Connect is a shadow of it's former self. We'll let you know what the new OS looks like when it releases, good luck, hope your application's art works nicely with the theme.
 
The war against the desktop continues:

When you register for a developer account with the Windows Store, you can choose to create either an individual account or a company account. While Metro style app developers can select either option, desktop app developers must create a company account to be eligible to list desktop apps in the Windows Store.
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http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsstore/archive/2012/06/08/listing-your-desktop-app-in-the-store.aspx

Great for Adobe, shitty for independent developers.
 
I still don't understand what's the point of listing desktop programs in the store.
It will only confuse users that some apps are easy to install (just click Install and you're done - the app is on your start screen) and update, while for other apps you'll have to visit a separate webpage and manually download the program and install it.
 
Mr_Zombie said:
I still don't understand what's the point of listing desktop programs in the store.
It will only confuse users that some apps are easy to install (just click Install and you're done - the app is on your start screen) and update, while for other apps you'll have to visit a separate webpage and manually download the program and install it.
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listing them in the store offers the users a safe and secure place to get them. I think that is a good enough reason.
 
Encountered a shutdown bug when I plugged in a Kindle and removed it.

Maybe there's something up with the USB devices in this build.

Hopefully all of this is fixed by RTM.

Windows 7 Pre-RTM builds had some annoying Wireless bugs, but RTM remedied it.
 
Windu said:
listing them in the store offers the users a safe and secure place to get them. I think that is a good enough reason.
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Iirc, weren't the desktop programs in the store nothing but info pages that link back to whichever website to actually DL? I didn't think MS was going to be hosting anything but metro apps anyway.

I may be wrong.
 
Miri said:
Iirc, weren't the desktop programs in the store nothing but info pages that link back to whichever website to actually DL? I didn't think MS was going to be hosting anything but metro apps anyway.

I may be wrong.
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yeah they are just listings
 
After reading the "VALVE LOVES LINUX / GABE HATES WINDOWS 8 / YEAR OF LINUX ON THE DESKTOP" thread on the gaming side, I think it's a sure bet that Microsoft already lost the fight. I haven't read so much negativity regarding a new Windows release since Windows Vista and no service pack fixed that reception, even though I preferred it over Windows XP. I can't wait for 2015, when they fix 8 by releasing Windows 9.
 
Meh, Tablets and Desktops are not the same thing, and as such, need different OSeseses.

Windows 8 just smells like them trying to 'out do' apple, 'beat them' to tabletifying their desktop because people think thats where osx is heading.

And of course trying to get a leg up on tablets by leverging their desktop into it.

Both are bad courses imo.
 
brotkasten said:
After reading the "VALVE LOVES LINUX / GABE HATES WINDOWS 8 / YEAR OF LINUX ON THE DESKTOP" thread on the gaming side, I think it's a sure bet that Microsoft already lost the fight. I haven't read so much negativity regarding a new Windows release since Windows Vista and no service pack fixed that reception, even though I preferred it over Windows XP. I can't wait for 2015, when they fix 8 by releasing Windows 9.
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been using windows 8 for a week now.

It's really good.
 
catfish said:
just found out that this thing sucks ass from behind a corporate firewall. metro apps appear not to work at all, think you're 'not connected to the internet'

on my test environment with an isa 2006 firewall with NO authentication as a proxy, desktop works fine, 'photos' works fine, but store/news/finance/whatever else all of them say 'you're not connected to the internet'

monitor the isa box and none of them generate traffic through it. tried group policies to force it, everything.

machine is

domain member with domain account login
proxy to an ISA 2006

crappy effort MS, ISA is your own product and isn't that much different from the newer TMG, which is also giving the problem.
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not sure if anyone else ran into this at all, but I fixed it. It turns out for metro apps to work at all, the machine has to be able to resolve external addresses. At least it does in my environment. Once I allowed DNS communication to go external from my win8 box, everything started working. Good to know so I can play around with it, but dangerous in a corporate environment, you don't want your clients resolving external addresses.
 
markot said:
Meh, Tablets and Desktops are not the same thing, and as such, need different OSeseses.
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Sure, that's why W8 has noth desktop and metro ui, which bassicaly act as two separate OSes.

Better that than using phone OS for tablet like iPad does.
 
I always wanted a tablet, long before the iPad, but I could not buy one with windows because that was shit on tablets. and I could not buy an iPad because that is a really limited device and I need to have a little more freedom.

Windows 8 is everything I ever wanted on a tablet. The hybrid devices are the best that could have happened, at least for me.
 
It's pretty obvious by this point that Microsoft isn't targeting the traditional desktop/laptop market with Windows 8. They're betting on every W8 PC having touch capabilities and the new hardware being announced by manufacturers reflects that.
 
brotkasten said:
Can we please stop saying this nonsense? The metro ui jumps every now and then in my face when I use the desktop and I got no choice over it. It's bullshit.
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How about you stop pretending you constantly are forced to use metro in desktop mode, when in reality you barely spend any time in it. We get it, you're alergic to metro, so every second of it causes immense pain in your whole body, but that's just you.
 
I don't spend any more time in metro than I spent in the start menu- which is the occasional search, or for a program I don't use enough to keep in my task bar but have on the start screen. You're forcing yourself to use it more than you need to if you feel like you're in it all the time. Treat it as and use it as a tool, because that's what it is.
 
AdrianWerner said:
How about you stop pretending you constantly are forced to use metro in desktop mode, when in reality you barely spend any time in it. We get it, you're alergic to metro, so every second of it causes immense pain in your whole body, but that's just you.
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The only thing I'm allergic to is bullshit. You're saying they're basically two operating systems and yet I see Metro every now and then, when I'm using the desktop and desktop apps. Windows Update wants to restart? Metro layer. Terrible balloon notifications? Replaced by Metro.

I don't hate metro and I don't really mind it. But Windows 8 is not a finished product and I don't see how anyone could disagree with that. I like the improvements in the desktop area, I like how it looks and I will use Windows 8 day one. The only thing I truly dislike is the fact that they discontinued the Zune software for that piece of shit that the music app is.

E: You can't tell me that suddenly seeing a huge banner like that across the whole desktop isn't a bit ... weird.

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markot said:
Meh, Tablets and Desktops are not the same thing, and as such, need different OSeseses.

Windows 8 just smells like them trying to 'out do' apple, 'beat them' to tabletifying their desktop because people think thats where osx is heading.

And of course trying to get a leg up on tablets by leverging their desktop into it.

Both are bad courses imo.
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When I'm on my desktop PC I'm in the desktop 98% of the time. When I'm on my tablet I'm in Metro 75% of the time, the big exceptions being when I'm using Photoshop or Zbrush.

I have complete compatibility between both my machines which have very different form factors and requirements in terms of comfortable UI. I don't want to have to deal with 2 OSs when one is doing the job extremely well.

Microsofts multi-screen approach is the right way to go. It doesn't matter what device I'm working on, the experience is consistent and all my shit is there and set up how I like it.

brotkasten said:
Can we please stop saying this nonsense? The metro ui jumps every now and then in my face when I use the desktop and I got no choice over it. It's bullshit.
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Come on. The OS "jumps" at you? Do you recoil in fear every time you open a program and your screen suddenly changes to something else?

Pin programs to the taskbar or put icons on your desktop. Stop being such a drama queen.
 
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