[Windows Central] Forget about Steam in the Xbox PC app — I want Game Pass in the app I actually use

If Game Pass were available in Steam, would you be more likely to subscribe?


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Topher

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It's either money or competing visions of the future that are keeping Game Pass out of Steam.

Microsoft announced some gaming news yesterday that I wasn't expecting; it plans to add Xbox PC app integration with "leading PC gaming stores," making it a whole lot easier to access all your games in one spot.

This update arrives first for Xbox Insiders this week as it's still undergoing testing, but if everything goes according to plan, it will roll out officially in time for the expected launch of the ROG Xbox Ally and Xbox Ally X later this year.

The Xbox Wire post announcing the new Xbox app game aggregation only mentions that you'll be able to "launch games from Xbox, Game Pass, Battle.net, and other leading PC storefronts," initially leaving Steam with a big question mark beside it.

However, now that PC gamers have been able to test out the new feature via the Insider program, fears have been put to rest. Your Steam library is now indeed accessible through the Xbox app on PC.

The response to this news has so far been quite positive. Dealing with fewer launchers is always a good thing, and Xbox is clearly taking its forward approach with its plans to blur the lines between PC and console.

However, I know I'm not alone in pondering an alternative future where the PC Xbox app — more specifically, PC Game Pass — comes to Steam.

PC Game Pass on Steam is all I really want


With Microsoft's recent push to turn everything into an Xbox and some evidence of a grand Xbox singularity where the Xbox console and gaming PCs become indistinguishable, this news of the Xbox PC app getting library aggregation with other storefronts isn't that surprising.

My first thought when reading the news, however, was "Why can't Microsoft make Game Pass available through Steam?"

I'm a longtime Game Pass subscriber, and I firmly believe that it's one of the best (if not the best) values in PC gaming today. The biggest issue I have with PC Game Pass, and I know I'm not the only one, is the Xbox app for Windows.

Executive Editor Jez Corden gave his opinion of the Xbox app on Windows PCs late last year, noting that while Microsoft has improved its usability exponentially since its initial launch, it is still a far cry from the high bar set by Steam.

I don't know how many times I've fought with the app due to some bug that randomly appeared, leaving me with a troubleshooting session rather than a gaming session. Not to mention the often incredibly slow download speeds that often plague games, new and old.

EA's gaming subscription service, EA Play, is available through Steam, and I wouldn't be surprised to see memberships on the rise now that the horrendous EA App can be bypassed.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see the same effect occur with Game Pass subscriptions should it ever come to Steam. I know a few gamers in my personal life who don't have a PC Game Pass subscription solely for the fact that they'd have to use the Windows Xbox app.

What's stopping Steam and Microsoft from reaching a Game Pass deal?

The biggest obstacle to PC Game Pass coming to Steam likely has dollar signs plastered all over it. Steam's parent company, Valve, takes a cut of every game sold through its platform, and I don't imagine that'd be any different for new and recurring Game Pass subscriptions.

But would giving Valve a cut really harm Microsoft's profits?

In February 2024, it was reported that Game Pass had 34 million subscribers spread out over Xbox and PC users. Whether that number has grown or shrunk since then, I can't say, but that's still a lot of users.

Looking at Steam this morning, there are more than 34 million users online. I understand that there's a significant crossover in active Steam users and Game Pass subscribers (myself included), but surely there would be an influx of new members as gamers who have avoided Game Pass due to the Xbox app now have another avenue.

Beyond the money aspect, Microsoft might not want to give Steam the keys to its massively successful subscription service as it's trying to build out its own ecosystem for Xbox and PC gamers.

If that's indeed the case, I hope that Microsoft can speed up the development cycle for the PC Xbox App, as it's still a long way from what Steam can offer.

On the flip side, it might be Steam that doesn't want Game Pass on its platform. Despite taking a cut of subscriptions, Valve would miss out on revenue from individual game sales.

Either way, I don't see how some sort of partnership would benefit both companies — and, more importantly, PC gamers — in the long run.

Give the new Xbox PC app aggregated gaming library a try

I will admit that the new game aggregation in the PC Xbox App looks quite sharp, and if you often use the app, there's no harm in trying out the new feature yourself.

You can give it a shot by downloading the Xbox Insider Hub on Windows 11 and signing up for the PC Gaming preview section. The best part? You can choose which third-party storefronts show up in your app.

It's rolling out to users now, so you might not have the new feature right when you enroll in the program. Keep checking back!




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I'm already subscribed so neither poll option is viable for me but maybe another option that having game pass on Steam will make it more likely to use that launcher, eh Topher Topher ?
 
Im also already subscribed - but having Steam integration would much improve the chances that I stay subscribed.
 
Convenience is key to getting anybody to use anything.

That said, maybe this has changed.

When I gamed on steam, decades ago up to a recently, I seem to recall a feature that you could add any app link manually to the steam list. I assume this is still possible.

So this is not about necessarily a simple shortcut but rather baking gamepass into steam, not requiring any other launcher or program to operate, and allowing gamepass to be subbed/unsubbed to over Steam's API and payments to be made. My main worry from MS perspective would be upsells. Gamepass is an upsell service. They program their games to have buyable content so once you enjoy you upgrade the game. Would these upgrades/dlcs come from Steam or MS store if gamepass was baked in and not just shortcutted?

Seems too many issues for a little convenience but the above still holds true, so this would help MS greatly if they could make it happen.
 
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I'm simply not interested in a rental service at this point in my life. I would rather pay once for games I want when I want than have a rolling list of games half of which I'm not interested in. It was fine on PS3, but that's not for me right now.
 
No, I hate the whole idea of time limited subscriptions (but can understand why companies prefer them). Lots of people crying about GaaS games, but than they choose a service to even have access to this games!? I dont get it.
 
I am already subscribed to the shock of many, but even if Gamepass was on Steam I would choose the better launcher and stick with the Xbox app 💪🟢.
 
I voted already subscribed because right now I am subscribed buy I only subscribe when there are games I want to play that I don't want to pay full price for so it's month by month.

I would absolutely love for Game Pass to be integrated into Steam like EA Play is. Let me link my accounts and download them through Steam. It would also make my Steam Deck much more enticing.
 
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I don't even know why this is a discussion. Jez comes to the obvious conclusion in the article, but that he bothered to write it indicates the kind of fantastical thinking required to sustain belief in Microsoft's strategy.

Has he or anyone else in the gaming journalist/pundit sphere ever bothered to consider whether or not third parties even like the idea of Gamepass spreading like a virus to other platforms where at least some people still buy games?
 
I would absolutely love for Game Pass to be integrated into Steam like EA Play is. Let me link my accounts and download them through Steam. It would also make my Steam Deck much more enticing.
Not sure if the xbox app would even work on linux (steam deck). Maybe someone knows here?
 
Not sure if the xbox app would even work on linux (steam deck). Maybe someone knows here?
IIRC the way that EA Play works is that I subscribe through Steam so they get a cut and then I can just download any of the games available so GP would need to work the same way for it to work on Steam Deck.
 
Sounds like a Valve problem to me. Steam doesn't really do anything for you at the end of the day. MS at least does rewards points, dual entitlements, cloud, gamepass and a windows update that lets you see all your stuff from the other stores. Epic gives out insane amounts of free stuff. GOG is DRM free.

If you choose to only use Steam, only use Steam. Hopefully there's a new GAAS card game in the near future as an exclusive for the fans.
 
I don't even know why this is a discussion. Jez comes to the obvious conclusion in the article, but that he bothered to write it indicates the kind of fantastical thinking required to sustain belief in Microsoft's strategy.

Has he or anyone else in the gaming journalist/pundit sphere ever bothered to consider whether or not third parties even like the idea of Gamepass spreading like a virus to other platforms where at least some people still buy games?

This isn't Jez. FYI
 
Good PR is always a logical reason for whatever a MS executive is saying at any given time. They also said "only four games" were going to PlayStation.
That doesn't answer why Microsoft would want to keep Game Pass off Steam. Growth of the service has stalled so Microsoft would only benefit from that deal.
 
IIRC the way that EA Play works is that I subscribe through Steam so they get a cut and then I can just download any of the games available so GP would need to work the same way for it to work on Steam Deck.
Yeah, EA is totally fine. Everything is fine, except this xbox stuff as it uses some different filesystem stuff (UWP) imho....which is more problematic. But I am not an expert in that stuff.
 
Valve allows EA Play. How do you know it isn't Microsoft keeping it off of Steam?
Have you seen whats on EA play? You could probably buy all the games on the service for less than the price of a sub. Its crap.

Gamepass on the other hand I think would cost Valve money in the long run. Its fucked Xbox sales, I'd not want it anywhere near my very successful store if I was them.
 
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If it's a battle of the PC libraries I think Epic wins.
I don't know how many games are currently available on Gamepass but I suspect it has to be nearing all the free titles that have been given away on Epic Store. Over 400?

I do think Steam is going to be getting chipped away at over the next few years. Eventually I might buy a game on the Xbox store due to Microsoft new upcoming reboot of the app.
It could happen. :)
 
That doesn't answer why Microsoft would want to keep Game Pass off Steam. Growth of the service has stalled so Microsoft would only benefit from that deal.

Probably has to do with negotiating Valve's cut, if I had to guess. Both sides have to agree on that so if that is the case it really isn't a matter of one or the other "not allowing" it, but rather simply not being able to come to an agreement.

Have you seen whats on EA play? You could probably buy all the games on the service for less than the price of a sub. Its crap.

Gamepass on the other hand I think would cost Valve money in the long run. Its fucked Xbox sales, I'd not want it anywhere near my very successful store if I was them.

Yeah, at the end of the day if the numbers don't make sense then they just don't make sense. It is nice to dream tho.
 
I don't think they have any reason to do that. They already launch their games on steam, which is friendly enough. Nobody should really want it on their platform, though. It already wrecked one marketplace.
 
I added Xbox cloud gaming to my steam deck as a non-steam game and added the right artwork. I'd rather them get GP and Xbox games to work natively on steamOS
 
Valve won't let this happen because they have nothing to gain from it. Having Game Pass on my SteamOS devices would be good though, that's for sure.
 
Valve allows EA Play. How do you know it isn't Microsoft keeping it off of Steam?
Fair point about EA Play but I don't think its relevant. EA Play just isn't as risky IMO when it comes to users slowing down their purchases. I wouldn't be surprised if EA Play got on there before the mask started coming off about the impact on sales from GP too.
 
It doesn't make financial sense for Sony or Nintendo to do it and the same holds true for Steam, imo. A cut of a sub fee is going to be less than the percentage cut of every copy of a game sold in most cases (this is not even taking into account MTX, DLC, etc.). I can see why some people want it, but it has to make sense for Valve, etc.
 
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Fair point about EA Play but I don't think its relevant. EA Play just isn't as risky IMO when it comes to users slowing down their purchases. I wouldn't be surprised if EA Play got on there before the mask started coming off about the impact on sales from GP too.

Yeah, I agree. I just think it isn't financially feasible for it to work. That's more than like the case across the board whether it is Valve, Nintendo or Sony. I know MS likes to talk a big game, but my gut tells me the numbers don't work for them either. I'd love to see it happen though.
 
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Yeah, EA is totally fine. Everything is fine, except this xbox stuff as it uses some different filesystem stuff (UWP) imho....which is more problematic. But I am not an expert in that stuff.
Yeah, it would need to just be games available on Steam natively but I doubt that would really cut much of value.
 
Fuck subscriptions (that is: fuck the current model, that does nothing to protect consumer rights, constantly changes policies, and restrict access to content).
 
Would you sub on psn?
If I could get a game and finish it for a fraction of the purchase cost I would certainly consider it at times. Could be a better value than beating a game and trading it in nowadays. Isn't that what basically everyone would at least consider on Steam, PSN, or any other market?
 
Valve allows EA Play. How do you know it isn't Microsoft keeping it off of Steam?
Sony allows EA Play as well.

Because EA Play only has first-party games, not third-party games. If Microsoft creates a Game Pass tier that only has first-party games, I'm sure both Sony and Steam would be happy to accommodate that for a fees.

The problem with the current version of Game Pass is that it devalues Xbox games, but then it also devalues third-party games. That's not something Steam wants.
 
If I would get the Steam versions of games i 100% would subscribe to gamepass

Would try out stuff I have not bought and not be afraid to loose progress if i cancel sub - i could just get the game on steam a steam sale
 
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