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shantyman said:
I don't, but that certainly does seem like something I would say.
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I don't, but that certainly does seem like something I would say.
Sleeplessnights
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Hello, I just ordered a Samsung Omnia 7. Was this a good idea? I know it was a good, but was it? I just want someone to reassure me. Also, can I find a good website for app recommendations?
HamPster PamPster said:
The podcast support is really good if you use the Zune software.
if you do it like that you can play it in the background and do other stuff. If you just click a link the audio will stop when you move away. (mango's multitasking should fix that)
battery life is also good. I listened to a 2+ hour episode of weekend confirmed last night and my phone is still alive so it doesn't do that much damage.
Sleeplessnights said:
I'm really happy with mine if that helps.
HamPster PamPster said:
If you set up Zune correctly, it's incredible.
My wife never plugs her phone in to sync (hooray wifi sync!), but every time a new podcast is available it's sent to her device. It's allways up to date and she doesn't even have to think about it or fuss with any program at all.
Wifi sync is one of the best things about Windows Phone 7, in my opinion. I could care about USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt or whatever after observing how well this works. Just let it do its thing when I'm charging so I never have to think about hooking up my phone to get all the pictures into my library.
I ordered the HTC Trophy a few days ago, I can't wait to see what the OS is like. I've only ever seen pictures. It's been "out for delivery" since about 6AM and I just got home from work and it's still not here. Anything I should download besides the Zune program before it arrives?
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So I think I'm going to bite on the Focus, but I have some concerns about your guys' discussion of battery life. I am completely okay with plugging the phone every night, but I do want the phone to last the full day. Will the Focus last for a full day?
Yes mine definitely does, even with a lot of web browsing or talking on the phone.
The battery indicator might scare you at first, but on my Focus it just took a few days to calibrate correctly. In your first few days it might look like it completely drained in half a day, but then it'll continue working perfectly seemingly forever. Eventually it'll even out.
The battery indicator might scare you at first, but on my Focus it just took a few days to calibrate correctly. In your first few days it might look like it completely drained in half a day, but then it'll continue working perfectly seemingly forever. Eventually it'll even out.
antiquegamer
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Steelyuhas said:
It last me fulll 12 hous day ( well night) at work. My biggest problem is the lack of signal which really drain the battery at work. When I am not working and with normal usage the battery is good for a whole day (24hrs).
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dLMN8R said:
Alright thanks thats good news.
antiquegamer said:
As long as it survives the hours I'm awake, its good.
VanMardigan
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HamPster PamPster said:
Coming from the iTunes podcast handling paradigm, you'll be pleasantly surprised. It essentially works the same way, plus it can do wireless sync, so if you have your phone plugged in and the pc on, all new podcasts get pushed in automatically. Podcast support was the easiest part of going from iOS to WP7.
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That is, if you're in the US or Canada.VanMardigan said:
VanMardigan
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brotkasten said:That is, if you're in the US or Canada.
Is changing the region on the software difficult?
Sleeplessnights
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D4Danger said:
Thanks! I actually went over a couple more reviews and I'm glad I got the Omnia 7!
My old Samsung (which was itself a hand me down from my wife to replace the hand me down I got from her to replace the phone that I got when I signed up for my contract 5 years ago) bit the dust, so I ordered myself the HD7 today. My wife's had one for a while now and has been loving it and now it's time for me to finally upgrade to a smartphone.
I feel like I'm entering a scary new world.
I feel like I'm entering a scary new world.
Given the recent Windows 8 announcements it seems crazy how much the company has placed on the seed that started with the Zune HD's metro interface. Considered as a whole the Zune was a market failure, but on a personal level for me, best PMP I've ever owned. Great interface, fantastic service (Zune Pass). It's the reason I'm here with a Sammy Focus, it's my Zune HD x10. Just seems like some sort of left field vindication for all that Zune hate/mockery. Suffice to say, digging where they are taking their new OS.
HamPster PamPster said:
I use an app called BringCast, which lets you download and add podcasts to the music player fairly easily. Only two downsides are that it doesn't download in the background - so you have to wait while an episode is downloading, and it doesn't run automatically - so it only updates when you run the app (TBH thats a windows phone problem though)
I have another app called Podcasts! which streams them
besiktas1 said:I'm having a problem updating my phone.
It is a "walshed" phone. Zune gave me the notification to update, when I try, everything is fine up until the phone is restarted. It gets stuck on the "Omnia 7" black screen.
I thought it was because it was "walshed" so I used the un walsh toll, it gets stuck at the same bit again
Help me pls.
bump for new page :3
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brotkasten
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Hello fellow Windows Phone users.
Have you seen one of the Windows 8 reveal videos yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FXfl-hUo5o
What do you think about the tablet interface? Do you like the interpretation of the Metro UI?
I already posted my opinion In one of the W8 threads, here's a copy:
Discuss.
Have you seen one of the Windows 8 reveal videos yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FXfl-hUo5o
What do you think about the tablet interface? Do you like the interpretation of the Metro UI?
I already posted my opinion In one of the W8 threads, here's a copy:
Discuss.
VanMardigan
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Commodore said:
I just noticed that the Music hub has no Zune logo on it. I wonder if we'll get the service's new name in Mango.
edit: brotkasten, I'm actually surprised that you're so negative on the W8 tablet mode. What exactly is your beef with the tiles? I like how they elongated them to fit the widescreen format better. I'm also pretty sure we haven't seen all the functionality, specifically how hubs will work. Plus, they didn't dive into the menus besides hitting the start button and doing the multitasking swipe gestures. I'm sure there will be functionality to allow seeing open programs, and I know there's a lot they haven't shown us, but I would be perfectly happy this year with that UI on a tablet.
Agreed. It's clear this Windows 8 didn't come for the WP7 team.brotkasten said:
That Music hub is Windows Media Player not Zune. The Microsoft Windows team couldn't even get on the same page with the Microsoft phone team. There is something seriously wrong with that organization.VanMardigan said:
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Charred Greyface said:
Well, if they're killing off the Zune brand, then that makes sense. We know MS is huge and has all kinds of competing products, I'm not sure why this surprises you.
Even if they decide to kill off the Zune brand the actual app, the code itself, is still there. It's the only official Windows desktop app designed the Metro UI. Why can't they use it? *shrug* If Microsoft is fine with competing products then I hope they let WP7 team make their own tablet.VanMardigan said:
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is that a definite?Charred Greyface said:
i agree that there seems to be little cross-chat between parts of microsoft and it really seems to be hitting them. zune is/could be amazing and should replace windows media player straight away.
this interpretation of metro is fine, i think it's a nice varient for tablets/touch screens and a heck of a lot better than the 'classic' windows for those environments. it'll be interesting to see whether it influences 'apollo'/windows phone 8/windows phone 7.2
probably not though, considering people in microsoft seem to avoid each other.
I think its too early to worry about the final product.... I think the "apps" will be the last things to get moved over. I am not a fan of the multitasking either but I do not think we have seen the only way it works yet (I would be shocked if there is not a mode like wp7 mango where you can see the open apps).
I am not worried at all about the lack of silverlight.... I fully expect there to be a direct path (if ms doesnt just do it for you) to re-export your silverlight based apps into the html5 format. I expect something in the sdk to do that for you. What does worry me is the lack of xna support. One of the biggest things to do on current tablets is play games. The xbox live app and its games should be there at launch but with only html5 I don't see how they are going to get a good gaming experience there w/o xna.
Have they even said the music app they are showing is not zune? It sure looks like the zune UI from wp7. Even if its not I kinda expect them to add it before this thing launches. We still have to remember this is a year away and not feature complete.
Big Picture here.... I think we just got a preview of Windows Phone 8. I seem to remember reading somewhere that wp8 would be running real windows and if they are porting it to arm it will be able to run on smaller devices. I see wp7 moving to w8 rather than the other way around (and wp8 will look more like wp7).
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brotkasten said:
I responded in the other thread, but I would be surprised if it didn't have similar multitasking functionality to Mango/Windows Phone. Separate teams and all that but really, swiping through your pages is not multitasking, anyone should know that. If that's the only method of multitasking, then yeah, huge fuckup on their part. The back swipes sorta seem like an evolution of the "back" button in Metro.
As for the squares, I don't see your point--they're not just squares here, either? They display information inside, the UI is super smooth, snapping looks GREAT. Why do you think this clashes with Metro's design philosophy?
And as far as Silverlight, that would be incredibly disappointing if apps were ONLY HTML5/Java. Giga pointed out that the browser app does use Silverlight, so maybe that's not true. Otherwise, they're sorta doing the opposite of their own "unified" design by fragmenting W8 Metro from WP Metro.
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besiktas1 said:
Am not sure, sorry. A quick search and all I see is that the saving camera settings might be in Mango!
Commodore said:
Just nicked this for this thread which I made beofre checking the OT,
Looks ready built for a 360 UI too.
SeanR1221 said:If the apps don't run on silverlight, then there goes my hope that ALL WP7 apps will work on a W8 tablet.
I don't think they want that, because it wouldn't just mean they have to work on tablets, it means they would have to work on any W8 PC, that makes the prospect of developing a phone app way more daunting.
Plus they don't want you paying $2.99 for your desktop word processing application. They want desktop & tablet applications to demand a higher price (hopefully by being better).
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VanMardigan said:
I don't have a problem with the wide tiles (the focus on 16:9 for a tablet is bad, though), but I just don't think that it looks as good as Metro on the phone. I can't see many Metro references and it doesn't seem to focus on typography like Windows Phone does. I can give them the multi-colored backgrounds (okay, not really, but whatever), but animated backgrounds? Really? The other thing that bothers me are the multi-colored tiles. I love that you have one accent color on Windows Phone that is represented through the entire OS.
Right now it feels like a bad rip-off, kinda like TouchWiz 4.0 from Samsung.
giga said:
Oh you! :lol
infinityBCRT
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That'd be interesting. Every page of square tiles could be an Xbox 360 channel. Would be easy to navigate with both a controller or kinect.Gowans007 said:
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brotkasten said:
Good points. I agree they need to focus on the typography in the obsessed way the WP7 team did. Also, yeah, all the tiles should be the same color and there needs to be consistency with the background as well. Some of the attention to detail is certainly missing, and the problematic thing is that those sort of elements should have been thought out at an early stage. Not saying they don't have time to tighten up some of the points you make, but it should have been more of a focus for them early on, and aside from the overarching tile look, it appears that it wasn't.
I'm optimistic, though, this is a good start and certainly closer than ever for MS in having a viable touch screen version of Windows. Which is what I want rather than iPad/Android.
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VanMardigan said:
Thing is look & feel is always the LAST thing thats nailed down in Windows development. The new Windows 7 taskbar wasn't revealed until one of the final betas if I'm not mistaken, and same goes for Aero in Vista.
Yeah both stores I went to 4 people did the same thingjmdajr said:
1. ask why I want/like the phone
2. Try to bash on it with things that make no sense
if any of you get a Trophy at a store tell me if they do this to you as well. If they do I suspect some fishy stuff on Verizons behalf.
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that can probably be decided by the user. i imagine one single colour for all the apps shown on the start page would've been a bit dull for many. likewise, changing the colours wasn't important (or maybe not implemented yet) enough to show off. i can't imagine it just randomly decides a colour when you pin the app to the page.brotkasten said:
There are some nice touch interface elements there (the side gestures, the panel multitasking) that's a good start but that's different and distinct from Metro as a design language. It's especially troubling that they have no intention of bringing Metro to the Office suite. Also I really thought there was going to be pen/stylus support on a Windows tablet. :/VanMardigan said:
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When did they say they had no intention of bringing Metro to the Office suite?Charred Greyface said:
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I highly doubt they'll change anything I mentioned.VanMardigan said:
Charred Greyface said:
There will be a Metro version of Office, but it won't be a fullscreen app. Here's a screenshot of Outlook 15.
And lets not forget about that other touch-enabled Office 15 app, Moorea.
http://www.winrumors.com/office-15-moorea-tile-based-ui-screenshots-leak/
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