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the thing about data plans and tethering is rather than a hard line solution, this solution is constantly being overwhelmed by demand and growth of smartphone/pad users and amount of data requests is outstripping the supply.

they need to continually add more and more bandwidth to try and meet demand which costs tons of cash.
Not defending gouging but there are some markets where the current model is unsustainable to allow free tethering within the context of capital investment and profit within a corporate structure.
 
Guys I was looking for a Blogger app and ran across the best WP app I've ever used by far. The interface is just amazing and very easy to use. They even have a Website: http://www.updatemyfeed.net/

I cannot stress enough how amazing this app is! Check it out!
 
So it's been confirmed (if it wasn't already) that buying podcasts from your phone will be US only in Mango.

WHY THE FUCK IS MICROSOFT PULLING SHIT LIKE THIS?

I mean come on, giving different users a different subset of features dependent on their physical location? This is not the way it should work anymore. ESPECIALLY for things like podcasts where physical location is surely irrelevant.

AARRGGHH!!! I need an angry gif.
 
Wilester said:
So it's been confirmed (if it wasn't already) that buying podcasts from your phone will be US only in Mango.

WHY THE FUCK IS MICROSOFT PULLING SHIT LIKE THIS?

I mean come on, giving different users a different subset of features dependent on their physical location? This is not the way it should work anymore. ESPECIALLY for things like podcasts where physical location is surely irrelevant.

AARRGGHH!!! I need an angry gif.

Podcasts costs money now?

The Zune software and Mac Connector especially make it easy to sync Podcasts you've downloaded via iTunes to your phone. You can do this wirelessly too I assume. What is the need for the Zune marketplace on your phone to download podcasts then?
 
Wilester said:
So it's been confirmed (if it wasn't already) that buying podcasts from your phone will be US only in Mango.

WHY THE FUCK IS MICROSOFT PULLING SHIT LIKE THIS?

I mean come on, giving different users a different subset of features dependent on their physical location? This is not the way it should work anymore. ESPECIALLY for things like podcasts where physical location is surely irrelevant.

AARRGGHH!!! I need an angry gif.
Wait, there are podcasts you have to buy? That seems weird.
 
My sheer anger at the situation has caused my brain to implode.

I, of course, meant download instead of buy.

EDIT: There have been many times where I have been out and realised I've forgotten to download the latest episode of a podcast. While it downloads them automatically, it only wireless syncs if the phone is charging and the computer is on. Which doesn't happen very often :(
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Podcasts costs money now?

The Zune software and Mac Connector especially make it easy to sync Podcasts you've downloaded via iTunes to your phone. You can do this wirelessly too I assume. What is the need for the Zune marketplace on your phone to download podcasts then?
It's just more convenient. You're in bed, can't sleep? Just download the latest episode of your fav podcast from your phone, instead of getting up, turning the PC on, start the software, download the episode, sync it. You're on the go? Or on a plane? Download few episodes with your phone.

That said, the developer of BringCast promised to include background downloads as soon as the API is available. So with Mango you not only get the possibility to download them with the included function, but also 3rd party apps that can download podcasts on schedule, as soon as they're available, in the background.
 
One of my favorite features in Apple's iOS is the quietly-hidden capability to take screenshots. Back when I was doing deep dives on iPhone apps for stories, the feature was just there, and it worked. Outside of CNET, it let me do things like grab pictures from sites (before that feature was officially added), and put together quick step-by-step how-to guides for friends and family, turning the device into less of a consumptive tool, and into something that would help me get work done without a computer.
But in the past few months of me putting Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 through its paces as a primary device, I've been missing the feature dearly. So naturally, I asked Microsoft if it was on the short list of features to be added later on down the line.

The short answer? No.

"I have never sat in a user group--and I sit in a lot of user groups, a lot of retail groups--I've never heard an end user go 'why can't I take a screenshot of that?'" Aaron Woodman, director of Microsoft's mobile communications business, told CNET in an interview at the Consumer Electronics Show last week. Well ahead of a screenshot tool is a laundry list of features Microsoft plans to add, including the ones competitors have already put out, which Woodman referred to as "gaps."

"One of the reasons that personally pulled me over to the Windows Phone space was that there's a lot of choices to make," Woodman said. "It's not like we didn't know copy and paste was a feature that people could potentially want, it's a question of how important it is to the user experience. When can you get to it?" According to Woodman, it's also not always the users who help Microsoft determine which features need to be fast-tracked. "We do a lot of things for reporters," Woodman said. "I would argue things like the Mac connector software--the software that lets you take your Windows Phone and connect it to an Apple PC of some form, and basically pull over music from iTunes and photos and that kind of stuff--it wasn't built because we thought there was a significant market opportunity for Mac loyalists out there who were dying to buy a Windows Phone. It was built because reporters would show up with Macs," Woodman said.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20028597-75.html#ixzz1OG2nzX30
 
Wilester said:
My sheer anger at the situation has caused my brain to implode.

I, of course, meant download instead of buy.

EDIT: There have been many times where I have been out and realised I've forgotten to download the latest episode of a podcast. While it downloads them automatically, it only wireless syncs if the phone is charging and the computer is on. Which doesn't happen very often :(


Just "buy" either of the apps PODCASTS! or Bringcast and stream podcasts that have been updated while away from home.
 
Firestorm said:
I want to punch Mr. Woodman in the face.
The quotes still rankle even now after all these months. Even that recent positive review from ignorethecode started off by pleading for the WP7 team to add screenshot functionality. I don't understand why the WP7 team can't appreciate how important it is to give their most passionate users these features.
 
Firestorm said:
I want to punch Mr. Woodman in the face.

Yup. The other day I was playing Bejeweled and I ended up with five hypercubes, wanted to take a screenshot for my gf (we're both Bejeweled nerds), and had to take the DSLR out. WHAT THE FUCK?
 
Commodore said:
Tour of the new Music + Video hub features via the Windows Phone Blog

Sucks Podcasts are US only, but being a Zune Pass subscriber here in the States, I'm pleased.
I read this:
To make things as simple as possible, we don’t allow both the computer and phone to manage subscriptions.
and I'm worried because I would like my large video podcasts to be handled by the PC and the small audio podcasts on the phone.
 
Nice new promotion for WP7 buyers at Best Buy: 4000 Microsoft Points. Of course the irony is that the points can't be used to buy apps and games on WP, but hopefully that'll change soon. In the meantime I'm sure people who are heavy XBox/GFW users could use those spacebux towards something useful.
 
Anno said:
Nice new promotion for WP7 buyers at Best Buy: 4000 Microsoft Points. Of course the irony is that the points can't be used to buy apps and games on WP, but hopefully that'll change soon. In the meantime I'm sure people who are heavy XBox/GFW users could use those spacebux towards something useful.

This kind of stuff is what annoys me about megacorps like Google or Microsoft. They're so big and have so much going on that so much isn't compatible (overlooked, decided against, whatever). MS Points should work on WP7 from day one.
 
have one browser history result that just won't clear. Looks like its a known bug but is there a solution? I don't really care since I guess I could just think of it as a bookmark but I am getting a bit ocd about it.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
have one browser history result that just won't clear. Looks like its a known bug but is there a solution? I don't really care since I guess I could just think of it as a bookmark but I am getting a bit ocd about it.

Don't leave tranny surprise open while browsing GAF.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
have one browser history result that just won't clear. Looks like its a known bug but is there a solution? I don't really care since I guess I could just think of it as a bookmark but I am getting a bit ocd about it.

Was on a list of WP7 known bugs "IE will not delete URLs from history if they contain international characters"
 
Sleeplessnights said:
Do a lot of you guys have the 8 GB version of their WP7 phone? Is it a huge issue?

off course it is because it doesnt support microsd
dont buy phones with 8gb you will regret it
optimus 7/omnia 7 at least they are with 16gb
 
Tomcat said:
off course it is because it doesnt support microsd
dont buy phones with 8gb you will regret it
optimus 7/omnia 7 at least they are with 16gb

I've looked everywhere for a 16 GB Omnia 7 and can't find it :\

Edit: Is it for the big app sizes or music?
 
Went to a T-Mobile store and was told that the Omnia 7, the only WP7 they sell, is 'end line'. Hardly any stores have them in stock and they aren't replenishing them. One reason I heard was that they just weren't selling. Note, the WP7 tariffs began at £30 for all providers in the UK

Charred Greyface said:
How did you stumble upon this article?
I Googled 'How to take screenshots on WP7' even though I knew there isn't a way lol
 
Sleeplessnights said:
I've looked everywhere for a 16 GB Omnia 7 and can't find it :\

Edit: Is it for the big app sizes or music?

they are 8gb/16gb versions for omnia 7
dont know if 16gb is available in the usa

dont forget that you dont have 8gb free space but 6+gb the other is for the system
and yes for apps games music and 720p videos you will need more than 6gb down the road
 
Tomcat said:
they are 8gb/16gb versions for omnia 7
dont know if 16gb is available in the usa

dont forget that you dont have 8gb free space but 6+gb the other is for the system
and yes for apps games music and 720p videos you will need more than 6gb down the road

Don't think I'll be watching a lot of videos on the phone, I'll just have to cut down on my music.
 
I have half a gig left on my Focus. I'm dying. And I'm still too trigger shy to go with an unsupported SD card. Certified 32gig SD cards needed to have come out yesterday.
 
Been reading the WP7 forums and you won't believe how many threads there are in regards to complaints about the low volume, or the lack of differing volume channels e.g. Alarm/Ringtones/Zune.

I'm outside walking a lot of the time and you cannot hear anything in-call. Like I said earlier, it's the same when using the headset. However notification sounds blow your ears off. It's getting on my nerves to the point I'm considering selling the phone and going back to my Android. Of all the things that can be an issue on a phone, it's the volume they fucked up. HTC actually released a separate app for their WP7 phone as a solution. A separate app for the volume? Jesus christ, Microsoft. Despite that, there is not a single acknowledgement of this problem on those forums by an MS representative/employee. Mobile operators can't do anything about inherent OS functions and Samsumg customer support are too incompetent to escalate the issue or acknowledge there is an issue at all. Sigh

I may not even bere he for Mango. I cannot articulate enough my disappointment, anger and disbelief at this. The NoDo update has in fact further decreased the max volume settings for the Omnia 7. The volume sounds better without the update.
 
So the volume thing is for the Samsung Omnia phone? If it's big enought that you're considering switching platforms, that's terrible. Every platform has issues, but when you find one that just nags at you like that, it really sucks. And once you notice it and start going to message boards and read of other people complaining about the same thing, it only magnifies the issue. Do what you have to do man, if that means switching back to Android, so be it.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Been reading the WP7 forums and you won't believe how many threads there are in regards to complaints about the low volume, or the lack of differing volume channels e.g. Alarm/Ringtones/Zune.

I'm outside walking a lot of the time and you cannot hear anything in-call. Like I said earlier, it's the same when using the headset. However notification sounds blow your ears off. It's getting on my nerves to the point I'm considering selling the phone and going back to my Android. Of all the things that can be an issue on a phone, it's the volume they fucked up. HTC actually released a separate app for their WP7 phone as a solution. A separate app for the volume? Jesus christ, Microsoft. Despite that, there is not a single acknowledgement of this problem on those forums by an MS representative/employee. Mobile operators can't do anything about inherent OS functions and Samsumg customer support are too incompetent to escalate the issue or acknowledge there is an issue at all. Sigh

I may not even bere he for Mango. I cannot articulate enough my disappointment, anger and disbelief at this. The NoDo update has in fact further decreased the max volume settings for the Omnia 7. The volume sounds better without the update.

It's weird and a shame that I also have an Omnia 7 and do not have any of these issues. In call volume seems to be fine, both speaker and headset and while I find the unified volume system very occasionally annoying it's fine for the most part.

:(
 
Wilester said:
It's weird and a shame that I also have an Omnia 7 and do not have any of these issues. In call volume seems to be fine, both speaker and headset and while I find the unified volume system very occasionally annoying it's fine for the most part.

:(

I've read meus' posts about the sound and I don't seem to have any of these issues either

maybe it's the phone?
 
So, I found out I get a discount at the top 4 wireless carriers. 20% at ATT (i think)/VZW, 16 at Sprint, 14 at TMO. I've checked them all out and it seems like Sprint actually ends up being the cheapest. Does that sound about right? I really need no minutes, 2gb is substantial enough, and unlimited text is what I really need. It seems like Sprint bundles data with the voice plan, which is a good thing, I suppose.

$75 at VZW
I couldn't really figure out ATT, cause the page wasn't set up the same, so I have to call on it. Paying $65 now because I'm on a family plan, plus he gets 20% off now. I figure that it'll be around VZW when it's all said and done.
$70 at Sprint.
TMO I dont care for anyway.

I love my Focus, but I want to save money.

Also, I'm not due for an upgrade till Feburary. That means I can't up and leave without paying a fee, right?
 
Wilester said:
It's weird and a shame that I also have an Omnia 7 and do not have any of these issues. In call volume seems to be fine, both speaker and headset and while I find the unified volume system very occasionally annoying it's fine for the most part.

:(

I decided to tolerate the in-call volume issue even though I shouldn't have to. But that combined with the headset (Zune) volume not being loud enough outside when walking on the street just..takes my breath away. When I have the headset on, I can barely hear the call ringing /facepalm.

Overall I get the impression that there is a disconnect between MS and consumers in regards to specifics they request for. Mango is MS's braindchild; all the things they planned for WP7 and the new ideas they've innovated along the way, and whilst it is a great update, without a platform of direct communication between the WP7 team and consumers, it means we have to rely on the OEM's. I couldn't contact anyone, so I thought the large prevalence of it on the forums would attract attention but it hasn't. It's an issue that can be resolved in a day, seriously. It would make a world of a difference. A phone is after all a phone.

I was flabbergasted to learn HTC released their own app to try and fix this. An app - they couldn't get MS to release an update at least for the HTC phones. That does not bode well. It some ways it reminds me of the Xbox Live yearly updates. Issues that can be rectified immediately are scheduled to join the yearly release window, and not before.

This is right up there with Apple's decision to change the physical button to mute notification sounds (really?) and not lock screen orientation for the iPad.

It's not just the Omnia. People are having issues with all Windows handsets. I'm going to try and organise people to contact blogs like Engadget to write a story on this to get Microsoft's attention. If it was publicised that people can't even hear properly on their WP7 phones, you'd see a statement made within an hour and an update being released within a few days at the latest.


D4Danger said:
I've read meus' posts about the sound and I don't seem to have any of these issues either

maybe it's the phone?

I thought this as well. I tried to play the same song on another Omnia using the same headset and it was distinctively louder. I came back home today with a new Omnia and the sound was great. Then I installed NoDo and it was back to the problematic volume. Then again volume is subjective. I can hear it fine now when in an office environment, but when I'm walking outside - no chance, especially calls. Maybe the volume is fine for you - perhaps it isn't a technical issue at all but rather a personal one. However it's something that many are complaining about it, enough to justify allowing the option for the volume to be increased to higher levels.
 
A27 Tawpgun said:
I love Hydro Thunder go. When are the other games of summer supposed to be coming out?
One new game each week.

Summer of Arcade at E3 might have a montage for Windows Phone 7.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
It's not just the Omnia. People are having issues with all Windows handsets.

Dude, I cut grass with my Samsung Focus and I'm able to discern the music over the push mower. I've never had an issue with the volume level on that phone. Speakerphone, in call volume, ringtone, notifications, I don't have an issue with any of them. I keep the universal volume all the way up.

Like you said, maybe it's a personal issue, and hopefully MS cranks the volume up anyway for any persons who are hard of hearing. So if you want to do a campaign to get the story up on Engadget, that's always good.
 
Not sure what's less likely; a software issue or a hardware issue considering it doesn't just involve Samsung phones.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Not sure what's less likely; a software issue or a hardware issue considering it doesn't just involve Samsung phones.

I never heard of this problem on other phones, there was some rumbling about Samsung Focus when it first came out that volume is too low. I personally never have problem with it. I listen to podcast after shower with the bathroom fan on and I can hear it just fine.

Also my car doesn't have input jack for external portable so I usually listen to podcast in my car using the Focus speaker and I hear it just fine before and after No Do.
 
Sleeplessnights said:
Do a lot of you guys have the 8 GB version of their WP7 phone? Is it a huge issue?

Not if you stream your music and don't keep a lot of podcasts on your phone. I think it's way too limited. It really is depend on how you consume your media. I use mine mainly for podcasts and I like to store a varieties on my phone so I can pick and choose whatever I like.

Anyway, I think 8 gb is just way too limited.
 
Milly79 said:
So, I found out I get a discount at the top 4 wireless carriers. 20% at ATT (i think)/VZW, 16 at Sprint, 14 at TMO. I've checked them all out and it seems like Sprint actually ends up being the cheapest. Does that sound about right? I really need no minutes, 2gb is substantial enough, and unlimited text is what I really need. It seems like Sprint bundles data with the voice plan, which is a good thing, I suppose.

$75 at VZW
I couldn't really figure out ATT, cause the page wasn't set up the same, so I have to call on it. Paying $65 now because I'm on a family plan, plus he gets 20% off now. I figure that it'll be around VZW when it's all said and done.
$70 at Sprint.
TMO I dont care for anyway.

I love my Focus, but I want to save money.

Also, I'm not due for an upgrade till Feburary. That means I can't up and leave without paying a fee, right?

So I am confuse .. why would you want to switch plan if you are only paying $65.00 (if I remember correctly you are on you dad's plan). Unless of course you want to have your own account.

If you are still on contract then yes you are stuck with the plan until your contract expired.
 
Yeah, a sandisk 8gb class 2 is a super safe bet. And besides, any problems can be reversed with a full wipe and a pulling of the card.
 
antiquegamer said:
So I am confuse .. why would you want to switch plan if you are only paying $65.00 (if I remember correctly you are on you dad's plan). Unless of course you want to have your own account.

If you are still on contract then yes you are stuck with the plan until your contract expired.
I'm moving off. My dad wants it split.
 
Commodore said:
I have half a gig left on my Focus. I'm dying. And I'm still too trigger shy to go with an unsupported SD card. Certified 32gig SD cards needed to have come out yesterday.

What is the largest certified cards out there? 16GB?
 
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