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brotkasten
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That would be the most stupid and embarrassing thing ever. /hyperboleclaviertekky said:
Seriously, they already delayed it for a month, it's a minor update and people are screaming for it. No way they'd wait another week just for such a weak announcement.
Anyway, some news stuff:
Online retailer Clove reports that the Venue Pro was delayed. Again. Instead of mid-February it's not coming in March.
To make up for that, they released a hands-on video of the HTC 7 Pro, which is already available for £432.00 incl. VAT.
HTC 7 Pro hands-on
HTC 7 Pro @ Clove.co.uk
brotkasten
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First of all, Microsoft isn't Apple. I don't think something like that works for them. Second, they already demonstrated it at CES.kazinova said:
I mean, they could always start the presentation like this:
Blah blah blah great start, blah blah blah consumers are very satisfied, 93% would recommend it, blah blah blah last week we released our first update and it was well received by the press and our customers. LET ME SHOW IT TO YOU!
(The picture isn't creepy enough)
brotkasten
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How about the mini player?snap0212 said:Faste Zune loading? Sounds nice.
I was wondering one thing. I've always had iTunes in the lower right (tray?), and it didn't show up on the taskbar. Is there any way to do that with Zune? I like my taskbar clean, but I also like listening to music.
edit: Uhh, you mean it should completely disappear from the taskbar when it's still running? I don't think that works. I thought you wanted to replace the taskbar player.
I was watching the presentation a second time, to get source materials for gifs, and was swayed by her enthusiasm. she seems nice.brotkasten said:First of all, Microsoft isn't Apple. I don't think something like that works for them. Second, they already demonstrated it at CES.
I mean, they could always start the presentation like this:
Blah blah blah great start, blah blah blah consumers are very satisfied, 93% would recommend it, blah blah blah last week we released our first update and it was well received by the press and our customers. LET ME SHOW IT TO YOU!
(The picture isn't creepy enough)
Right click on your taskbar. Select "Toolbars". Click "Zune".snap0212 said:Faste Zune loading? Sounds nice.
I was wondering one thing. I've always had iTunes in the lower right (tray?), and it didn't show up on the taskbar. Is there any way to do that with Zune? I like my taskbar clean, but I also like listening to music.
brotkasten said:How about the mini player?
edit: Uhh, you mean it should completely disappear from the taskbar when it's still running? I don't think that works. I thought you wanted to replace the taskbar player.
Not what I was looking for, but that's even better.Sir Fragula said:
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Zune DOES load quicker for me. They need to stop all this teasing with the updates and the article and just release the update already. I keep thinking they'll just wait until I'm on vacation later this month to release it.
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VanMardigan said:
I just wish they'd stop being so cryptic about things. WTF do you gain from being cryptic MS? Honestly it just annoys me to the point where I get more pissed off at you.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Brettison said:
They need to be more transparent, for sure, but I don't think they're being purposely cryptic. We have a lot of information on the update, and some small bits about the update after that. What isn't as clear is the exact timeline, and its safe to assume at this point that they encountered some technical difficulties that have caused a delay to this first update, so not giving out an exact date (especially with the carriers involved) is probably a good idea.
The camera thing is worrying though. I'm actually starting to believe that MS intended for it to reset every time you quit out. It's absolutely insane, but they refuse to address that specific issue. In fact, I sent a message on Twitter to Brian Seitz and the WP7 team and they have not responded. I'll see if Paul Thurrot responds, but it would be great if more people asked him about it, not just me. He's gotten MS to respond before, maybe we can get an answer before the update drops.
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VanMardigan said:
Even beyond that though Zune updated and they couldn't even tell me WTF the update was really for. Just look at some of the twitter responses. Like you don't just issue and update and not know what it does. So why fucking try and hide it? WTF does that gain you?
WMPowerUser
I mean really you're not gonna tell me wtf my software update on my computer actually is, and you're gonna just give me a winky face like haha I'm just gonna bait you? Seriously MS I want to just say go fuck yourselves right now.
Another day without an Update. Well, I personally am done searching for bits and pieces of information, and honestly... even caring about the Update. They better get their stuff out soon and give me lots of information before Apple puts up a pre-order button for the new iPhone on their website.
Machinima released an official App. Hope it's just as good as IGN's.
Machinima released an official App. Hope it's just as good as IGN's.
MS does this all the time with the 360. Can't say it's ever bothered me; most of the time they're adding support for features not ready for release, or patching security issues. No reason to get annoyed by any measure!Brettison said:Even beyond that though Zune updated and they couldn't even tell me WTF the update was really for. Just look at some of the twitter responses. Like you don't just issue and update and not know what it does. So why fucking try and hide it? WTF does that gain you?
WMPowerUser
I mean really you're not gonna tell me wtf my software update on my computer actually is, and you're gonna just give me a winky face like haha I'm just gonna bait you? Seriously MS I want to just say go fuck yourselves right now.
broadwayrock
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The zune update just updated some dll files that update the firmware of devices, which means a WP7 firmware update is coming soon. Any speed increases in the software are just in your head.
brotkasten
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Wrong thread, gah.
"WP7 devices will have one of two screen resolutions either 800 x 480 for large touchscreen devices with the potential for slide-out Qwerty keyboards, or 480 x 320 for BlackBerry style handsets that can incorporate a Qwerty on the front of the device. Microsoft expects the majority of WP7 devices to have the larger screen resolution at launch, with smaller resolution handsets coming later, said Foster."claviertekky said:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/next-windows-phone-7-devices-to-compete-with-blackberry
EDIT: Also, http://www.fonearena.com/blog/23747/microsoft-will-launch-blackberry-style-wp7-handsets.html
There was a lot of talk of this sort of thing back before launch.
brotkasten
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It was rumored that Microsoft has different chassis specifications for WP7. Chassis 1 is the "high-end" spec that we have now. Slate device, (F)WVGA screen, 1 GHz CPU. The other spec mentioned a HVGA screen and keyboard, but still with the 1 GHz CPU and at least 256MB RAM (which is also part of the Chassis 1 min spec). Think of the Droid Pro, but with WP7 instead of Android.giga said:
I would be more alright with this if they didnt change the aspect ratio. That bothers me to no end on Android and Duarte seems to have finally smacked some sense into them over at Google by requiring Honeycomb tablets to be a set 1280x800.brotkasten said:It was rumored that Microsoft has different chassis specifications for WP7. Chassis 1 is the "high-end" spec that we have now. Slate device, (F)WVGA screen, 1 GHz CPU. The other spec mentioned a HVGA screen and keyboard, but still with the 1 GHz CPU and at least 256MB RAM (which is also part of the Chassis 1 min spec). Think of the Droid Pro, but with WP7 instead of Android.
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ElNino said:
It's definitely not in our head, it is quicker to launch. I just update the zune on my laptop but before I did, I note how fast it open (took about 4-5 secs), and after update it open in about a second or so.
My fear about the update is that it taking so long and the update will end up disappointing. There are talk already about lack of solution for camera setting and the app that get stuck in update que due to being trial version or app that can't be purchase from trial vesion (and also stuck and need to be removed). It's all little things but it's the little thing that tend to ruin the "experience" that Microsoft seems to be so fond of controlling and talking about.
If this update doesn't squash most of the bugs and fix all the little quirk it's going to be hard knowing the next update will be another 3 to 4 months down the road due to Microsoft insistence that they are just as good as Apple or Droid at launch. I faceplam everytimes I hear that as an excuse.
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Somewhat off-topic from WP7, but the Zune software update fixed the wireless syncing issue I was having with my Zune 80. The December update had completely broken wireless syncing for me.
As for speed, it may be slightly faster to open; it's kind of hard to say, the software always started quickly for me.
As for speed, it may be slightly faster to open; it's kind of hard to say, the software always started quickly for me.
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On a side note my bet is we don't see the update at all this week like just randomly or as part of the Nokia thing, and I don't think we are gonna get it at MWC either. I just have this feeling something went wrong, and we might not see shit till mid March or later.
I'm sure at some point we will get something based on WP7.Now they are saying the update is coming March 8th
http://www.neowin.net/news/exclusive-windows-phone-7-update-not-due-until-march-8
http://www.neowin.net/news/exclusive-windows-phone-7-update-not-due-until-march-8
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Still placing bets on Mid March or later... if they don't get it out before the 20s that's technically Spring for the Northern Hemisphere which means they went a whole winter season without an update, and the device launched in mid to late Fall.
At any rate I'll believe it when I see it, and if this is the way things are going it makes me hesitant to recommend the platform to people.
At any rate I'll believe it when I see it, and if this is the way things are going it makes me hesitant to recommend the platform to people.
While it sucks that this update isn't out yet, I'm not TOO bothered because it doesn't really bring anything that I truly care about.
If this update were to include additional APIs, multitasking, custom ringtones, or something equally important, then I'd probably be ready to riot. Instead, it's just Copy/Paste and some intangible stuff.
If this update were to include additional APIs, multitasking, custom ringtones, or something equally important, then I'd probably be ready to riot. Instead, it's just Copy/Paste and some intangible stuff.
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PG2G said:
We need bug fixes more than anything. Speed up 3rd part app launching, fix the marketplace crashing, and fix the fuck up with the camera settings more than anything. It's shit like this that should ALREADY be fixed.
Meh I'm tired of harping on the same shit though. MS just needs to not tie bug fixes in with regular feature updates.
Anton Sugar
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Maybe it's coming out so late because they're putting a bunch of extra stuff in it! Right, guys?
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Mr. Snrub said:
I wish. LOL
More like something ended up buggy or they thought it was all good, and then something got flagged in testing so they had to go back to the drawing board to fix some shit, and then go back into testing yet again.
antiquegamer
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PG2G said:
So I guess March it is then, just like what Paul Thurrot said a few weeks ago that he heard the rumble about update will be late March or even April.
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