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Greyface said:
I wish SE was making WP7 handsets :/

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PG2G said:
Just curious, but where have you seen front facing cameras mentioned as optional (or even at all) in Mango?
go back tens of pages, it was announced as optional when mango was shown to developers. that was also before the skype buyout announcement. i'm sure skype video calling will be heavily pushed for mango.
 
thirty said:
it looks more like a proximity sensor than a camera. if the default is landscape it will be a nice change from the portrait format that apple has pushed on the masses. good gawd i hate seeing portrait format pics and vids.
I think that's the proximity sensor.
It's the camera.
In the N950 the front facing camera is in top right corner and on N9 it is in the bottom right corner.

And no, I don't think Microsoft ever mentioned front facing camera support for Mango.
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thirty said:
go back tens of pages, it was announced as optional when mango was shown to developers. that was also before the skype buyout announcement. i'm sure skype video calling will be heavily pushed for mango.
Strange, I really can't remember that, but it looks like the Nokia phone still has one.

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thirty said:
i looked at the specs of the n9 and that is a front facing camera. no mention of the resolution though.

other interesting specs on the N9 include a 1450mah battery, 1gb of ram, and 720p (not 1080p) video.
More importantly, microSIM slot. Ugh.
 
Copernicus said:
I think that's the proximity sensor.
i looked at the specs of the n9 and that is a front facing camera. no mention of the resolution though.

other interesting specs on the N9 include a 1450mah battery, 1gb of ram, and 720p (not 1080p) video.
 
thirty said:
front facing cams in mango is optional. i'm sure we'll see it in the high end models. speaking of this, is the N9 even confirmed with a front facing camera? if not, i doubt this is the model nokia is going to debut with in the US. i expect them to enter the market with a bang.

can some one professionally shop this with a mango home page. preferably a motion gif showing off the live tiles.
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Heres my Photoshop skills on full display

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thirty said:
i looked at the specs of the n9 and that is a front facing camera. no mention of the resolution though.

other interesting specs on the N9 include a 1450mah battery, 1gb of ram, and 720p (not 1080p) video.

You guys are right, weird that it's hardly mentioned.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Heres my Photoshop skills on full display

I think you overdid the angle on the menu. But yeah, this is going to be a sexy device, I hope it gets to the carriers so they can offer it to consumers for a subsidized price.
 
Heck no. Capacitive buttons are bad enough with the accidental presses, how will this work for games and stuff? Not feeling that arrangement at ALL.
 
Actually I don't think its necessarily that bad.... depending on the implementation.

What everybody hates about the capacitive buttons is you can hit them when in game very easily.... if that part of the screen deactivates when in apps or games it would be better than the current capacitive setup. Or even the windows 8 method to the bar where you have to swipe in from the left if you swipe up to see them.
 
Adding a swipe gesture just to have access to the home/back/search buttons seems like a really clumsy workaround to Nokia not bothering to elongate a bit to put in the buttons. I don't want extra steps for this phone, I use the home button ALL the time and with mango you use the back button all the time as well.
 
Meh. I put about a 0% chance of that being in the final version of this phone. I'm not going to get too worked up until they release final images and start shipping the thing.
 
giga said:

If this is the final version, I'm gonna pass. A friend lost his original Pre and wants to buy the N9 with Windows Phone. We had an argument that we can't have the same phone, but if this comes with virtual buttons, he can have it.
 
Am I.. Am I missing something here? That Nokia phone looks like 90% of the other smartphones out there
 
Not sure what you guys are complaining about. Just a day or two ago people were impressed with the N9. Now we get the exact same phone running WP7 and its a bad thing?
 
PG2G said:
Not sure what you guys are complaining about. Just a day or two ago people were impressed with the N9. Now we get the exact same phone running WP7 and its a bad thing?
The virtual buttons are the bad thing. If they're real, that's it.
 
brotkasten said:
The virtual buttons are the bad thing. If they're real, that's it.

If the buttons are virtual and come out looking like that, then I will have a problem with it. At a minimum the background should be black, haha. I think that's one thing I will give them the benefit of the doubt for. This is a leak and the software is probably early.

That said, I have never really expected the first Nokia device to be high end or ground breaking. It is obviously being rushed to market to be available this winter.
 
PG2G said:
That said, I have never really expected the first Nokia device to be high end or ground breaking.

But that's really what everyone is expecting and exactly what Nokia needs. A high end smartphone in the holiday that "blows your socks off". Nokia is Microsoft's premium OEM.
 
brotkasten said:
But that's really what everyone is expecting and exactly what Nokia needs. A high end smartphone in the holiday that "blows your socks off". Nokia is Microsoft's premium OEM.

Its what we want and need, I just don't know that its feasible for them to turn a product around so quickly on a brand new platform. I guess we'll have to wait and see though. It's important that we keep out expectations in check.

The WP7 spec doesn't even allow for phones that have specs that will be considered high end by the time these products launch. We won't be seeing dual core CPUs, we won't be seeing top of the line GPUs. What we get will not be comparable to the iPhone and Android phones launching in the same period. It will match up with today's mid-level Android phones (like the Thunderbolt, Incredible 2, and Droid Charge).

Product design will only take you so far.
 
thirty said:
on screen buttons r a big fail. Samsung, save us n show a super amoled plus 4.5" screen beast.
You want Samsung to save you from virtual buttons? Have you used the capacitive buttons on the Omnia??? I love mine but the buttons are a pain in the arse.
 
NotTarts said:
Apart from gaming, is there really any need for higher-spec hardware in Windows Phone 7? Just curious.

You could have said the same for the iPhone 3GS, and then the iPhone 4. But look at what we're getting in the iPhone 5 (assuming its the same internals as the iPad 2). They need to be in line with the competition.

Besides, the more and more the OS has to do, the more performance will diminish.
 
PG2G said:
You could have said the same for the iPhone 3GS, and then the iPhone 4. But look at what we're getting in the iPhone 5 (assuming its the same internals as the iPad 2). They need to be in line with the competition.

Besides, the more and more the OS has to do, the more performance will diminish.
I can sort of see the same thing with the iPhone 5, though. 3G > 3GS upgrade made sense (basic OS functions ran slowly), as did the 3GS > iPhone 4 upgrade (higher screen resolution), but I can't see much reason for another processor upgrade so soon. I guess it's just progress for progress' sake.
 
They have kinda done that already by updating the spec adding newer processors etc.

WP7 will never need bleeding edge processors like you see on android. WP7 with old single core cpu's already run circles around android in terms of OS performance because wp7 can be optimized for the few processors it supports. The reason everybody is so gaga over dual core and faster processors on android is they actually need that more power to run android smoothly since there is not the same level of optimization.

WP7 will be very much in the same vein of iOS but a bit more open in letting oem's have multiple handsets using the same hardware spec and over time updating the spec. There is a new spec for 7.5 and I expect it to be updated again next year when (I assume) windows 8 takes over.
 
NotTarts said:
I can sort of see the same thing with the iPhone 5, though. 3G > 3GS upgrade made sense (basic OS functions ran slowly), as did the 3GS > iPhone 4 upgrade (higher screen resolution), but I can't see much reason for another processor upgrade so soon. I guess it's just progress for progress' sake.
Web page loading is directly connected to the processor. IE could really benefit from a faster chip.

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jagowar said:
WP7 will be very much in the same vein of iOS but a bit more open in letting oem's have multiple handsets using the same hardware spec and over time updating the spec. There is a new spec for 7.5 and I expect it to be updated again next year when (I assume) windows 8 takes over.

Yeah but iPhone has the benefit of top of the line hardware (at release) and heavily optimized software. WP7 didn't launch with top of the line hardware, Mango won't be launching with top of the line hardware.
 
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