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giga said:
Qualcomm listed WP7 as supporting their dual core processor. Hopefully we see that in the fall.
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Qualcomm listed WP7 as supporting their dual core processor. Hopefully we see that in the fall.
brotkasten
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The MSM7x30 is slightly faster than the old QSD and the MSM8x55 ships with up to 1.4 GHz, like you have in the Flyer. Not a dual-core, but still better.giga said:
I still don't think that WP supports dual-cores right now. It runs the ancient CE6 R3 kernel and that one doesn't have SMP support.VanMardigan said:
http://www.wpsauce.com/2011/06/deep-diving-into-mango-rom-reveals-more.html
My favs from the article
I hope MS lets you change the mms settings so I can finally get picture messages.
My favs from the article
I hope MS lets you change the mms settings so I can finally get picture messages.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
So has there been any mention of multiplayer gaming for Xbox Live games? I read "this is the big one first, sit tight" above and I thought it was referring to XBL multiplayer. Instead it's sharing your profile on FB. WTF? How is that exciting?
brotkasten
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They didn't really announce it, but they mentioned it. Some devs already demoed it, I thinkVanMardigan said:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...me-what-s-new-in-the-games-hub-for-mango.aspx
CE7 went RTM earlier this year, but rumors are that WP8 will be based on the Windows 8 ARM kernel, not CE7.NotTarts said:
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giga said:
iPad 2 still loads pages significantly slower than what you are used to on a desktop. It'll be a while before we can use mobile browsers in the same way as the desktop
Slightly faster in graphics processing yes, but they both still use a Scorpion core. The second generation MSM7x30 CPU is just on a smaller process (45nm instead of 65nm) and down clocked from 1ghz to 800mhz.brotkasten said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3967/the-tmobile-g2-preview/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Current_.26_Future_Specifications
The Flyer doesn't have an MSM. Since it's a tablet that doesn't need radios, it ships with an APQ.
Ah yeah. Forgot how shit the 200 was.venne said:
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giga said:
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It's actually a new skin for the emulator.NotTarts said:
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Someone released a Mango ROM and the blogger at WP Sauce took it apart. He found some interesting things, but you should be aware that none of those things have to be in the final Mango release. Just like visual voicemail settings were in the registry of the RTM release, but the feature wasn't there yet.
http://www.wpsauce.com/2011/06/deep-diving-into-mango-rom-reveals-more.html
I'm pretty happy with my Omnia 7, so I'll probably wait until 3rd gen/Windows 8 phones. Not really sure what more I'd want out of the phone once it gets the Mango update. I guess more space would be nice, I got the 16GB version which I manage with, but would love 32GB or 64GB.
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MCD said:
Ditto...
1) I'm fine with my current phone... my focus already has a super amoled screen so I feel like I'm semi cutting edge (if I had a general old lcd I'd want to upgrade more).
2) Hardware acceleration for the OS makes everything snappy so I'm leveraging more of my current under the hood hardware to make things snappy. So at least for now I don't feel the need for a hardware bump (unless mango just goes iPhone 3g on your phone). So far we've seen previews on my current hand set and it seems fine. So I'm good. Only thing that would be an improvement would be games (which I haven't bought any yet anyways).
3) My biggest upgrade want as always would just be a resolution bump. I don't see that happening to something really drastically better than what I have now until gen 3. Also that's when I'd also feel the need for better hardware under the hood with more pixels being pushed
4) I'm under contract for 2 years so I don't feel like paying the off contract price for a smaller(ish) upgrade
5) LTE isn't a big deal to me. I'm on the 200 meg AT&T plan, and most months use sub 100 megs. I just use wifi everywhere so I'll wait it out until LTE really gets a foothold in late 2012.
I'm your opposite; I want to upgrade but only for a smaller phone. I had the Samsung Focus first, and now have the LG Optimus 7. I want a 3.5" or even a 3.3" screen. Since we won't be getting an increased resolution, I'll settle for a pixel density bump. If we don't get any smaller models then I'll switch to the thinnest/lightest WP7 phone available (that's the Samsung Focus right now).thirty said:
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MCD said:
I love my Focus, enough to not "upgrade" to a phone that doesn't have an SAMOLED or equivalent, but I'm not satisfied with it's battery life, plus my girlfriend is moving out of state, making a front-facing camera even more important. Hope we get an official announcement on that soon.
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Jadedx said:
I don't disagree, but I feel like I'll get this with the 3rd gen phones verses the 2nd gen ones.
Why what? Allowing full system access has its pros and cons. Microsoft wants to keep their security model in place and I can perfectly understand why given precedent in other operating systems.Greyface said:
Security combined with reliability, performance, and battery life are all things they don't want compromised. And that's what I can understand from my perspective.
Why is the keeping the UX 'clean' a priority when the users in this case are homebrewers, precisely the people who want to mess around with the system and are willing to try out buggy and untested mods for that reason?giga said:
Which precedent are you referring too? Palm/HP sanctioned homebrewing on their devices, have none of these restrictions Microsoft is supposed to be adding, and gets along fine.
edit: sorry, i should be clear, I agree with you about restricting third party apps just not homebrew ones, i think we were talking about different things there.
2nd edit: if Microsoft is restricting apps from the file system, are they offering something else in its place?
The users in the case are everyone, not just "homebrewers" or power users. This is an officially Microsoft-sanctioned tool and they can't estimate the extent that this tool will be used. Jailbreaking isn't confined solely for power users anymore--anyone can do it with instructions from youtube. Chevron will probably be even easier.Greyface said:
Precedent are desktop operating systems and Android. You can't guarantee security, reliability, and performance with those models. They want to guarantee that. (as much as they can, at least) Why's that hard to understand?
Why do they have to guarantee that? Why can't it be at the user's own risk, like Android etc does? Isn't that supposed to be point of the mode, to do unsanctioned stuff?giga said:
And what about webOS? That webOS precedent is actually closest to the model Microsoft says they want to try with WP7...
Because they want to guarantee that? Users can't be trusted. They'll see some instruction on how to install this great new app which then prompts them to the Chevron site and then they have file system access.Greyface said:
WebOS is like WP7? How? It's more like Android if anything given its multitasking model and system access.
I said WP7 wants to be like webOS. The is an officially sanctioned webOS path to get homebrew. Microsoft said they'll provide an officially sanctioned path to get homebrew.giga said:
As for the rest of your post, I'm completely lost. You could say the same thing about every other platform, that some unscrupulous app could theoretically pull off some social engineering move and get file access. If Microsoft places restrictions on the official homebrew scene, that's just going to push people back towards trying to hack the system and remove those restrictions. A jailbreak scene will eventually develop and Microsoft will be back where they started.
Well clearly, it's not anymore. It's now just an official way to side load apps that conform to the SDK but not to the marketplace restrictions.Greyface said:
The difference between jailbreaking is that it's not officially supported by Apple. Chevron will be official from Microsoft. They don't want to officially support giving system access.
Joel Was Right
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One thing the People Hub needs is the separation of Live contacts that have no other phone number (e.g. Internet friends) from those with a phone number. In addition, right now when you import your Live contacts - it imports them all, and if you delete from your phone, it also deletes them from your Live contact list seen on browsers.
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Anybody know of a good, reliable Weather app with live tile support? I have a Verizon Trophy and have given the Weather Channel and Weatherbug apps a go, but both have frozen and refused to work. In fact, Weatherbug locked up whenever I tried to save a location. Haven't had this issue with any other apps.
Thoughts and/or suggestions?
Thoughts and/or suggestions?
So, I just purchased a Samsung Focus (And I'll have to detail my experience purchasing it in another post - suprisingly hostile AT&T clerks, downplaying, etc.), but I now have a problem.
The phone apparently auto-generated an Xbox Live account and gamertag for me, based on the user account name I used for Zune. The auto-generated Xbox Live gamertag is now associated with the LIVE ID I used to create my Zune/Phone account. Naturally, I would like to either use my actual Xbox 360 gamertag, or pull in the info from my existing gamertag into my phone.
None of the online solutions seem to work. When I try to associate my OG Xbox 360 gamertag old LIVE ID with the phone's LIVE ID, it won't let me do that because, as the message tells me, there is already an existing account associated with it. I'm copying and pasting the only other solution I came across, below:
"Create a brand new LiveID (you will use it only for some minutes)
Go to Xbox console and login with the Phone Live ID (Phone Gamertag) the one you want to free up from Xbox Gamertag
On Xbox Console move this Gamertag to the newly created temp LiveID (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945419)"
The problem is, in order to login to my xbox with the "Phone Live ID", I have to create the profile on the Xbox - but then I can't seem create it, because then I'm told, again, that there is already a profile associated with that account. Is there a simple way to just delete the Windows Phone Xbox Live account, so I can start over? Or is there a solution that makes sense.
Xbox Live Support was no help in this matter either.
The phone apparently auto-generated an Xbox Live account and gamertag for me, based on the user account name I used for Zune. The auto-generated Xbox Live gamertag is now associated with the LIVE ID I used to create my Zune/Phone account. Naturally, I would like to either use my actual Xbox 360 gamertag, or pull in the info from my existing gamertag into my phone.
None of the online solutions seem to work. When I try to associate my OG Xbox 360 gamertag old LIVE ID with the phone's LIVE ID, it won't let me do that because, as the message tells me, there is already an existing account associated with it. I'm copying and pasting the only other solution I came across, below:
"Create a brand new LiveID (you will use it only for some minutes)
Go to Xbox console and login with the Phone Live ID (Phone Gamertag) the one you want to free up from Xbox Gamertag
On Xbox Console move this Gamertag to the newly created temp LiveID (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945419)"
The problem is, in order to login to my xbox with the "Phone Live ID", I have to create the profile on the Xbox - but then I can't seem create it, because then I'm told, again, that there is already a profile associated with that account. Is there a simple way to just delete the Windows Phone Xbox Live account, so I can start over? Or is there a solution that makes sense.
Xbox Live Support was no help in this matter either.
The recovery trick worked - thank the gods, or user_nat!
Of course, I have a new problem. My existing account has Microsoft points on it, and since I already did a transfer earlier (or attempted to) it won't let me associate my Xbox360 gamertag with my phone live ID for at least 30 days. Oh well.
Hopefully, it will work as intended by then.
Thanks for the help.
Of course, I have a new problem. My existing account has Microsoft points on it, and since I already did a transfer earlier (or attempted to) it won't let me associate my Xbox360 gamertag with my phone live ID for at least 30 days. Oh well.
Hopefully, it will work as intended by then.
Thanks for the help.
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Haven't kept up Mango lately. Any word on a beta for developers?
brotkasten
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Comment on the absence of included weather app? Not enough time. They released it in the marketplace and never updated all the apps since launch. Even if they did, those weren't significant updates. They don't care and let the 3rd party devs do all the work, which is fine by me. The official Facebook app by Microsoft still doesn't have push notifications or a live tile, which is much more important, if you ask me.Greyface said:
Rumor is that devs should get the beta this week. It's nothing official, but that's what everyone is hoping, because Brandon Watson, the guy who's responsible for this, said that last week was exclusively for the press.snoopeasystreet said:
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