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Klocker said:
my next device if it comes.

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Everything except the dual core chip should be on their next phone. Though personally I'd prefer the 4.5" SuperAMOLED Plus on the Infuze.
 
VanMardigan said:
Everything except the dual core chip should be on their next phone. Though personally I'd prefer the 4.5" SuperAMOLED Plus on the Infuze.
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yea, I'd snag an infuze too.

I think I am eligible in Decembe so it will all shake out by then and my Focus will hold me over. 4.5" is probably the max size I'd be comfortable carrying for work
 
So wait a sec, I need the Zune 4.8 beta to sync my files now? Damn, and megaupload is being a little bitch too. Keeps telling me that I'm already downloading something. Sigh.
 
VanMardigan said:
So wait a sec, I need the Zune 4.8 beta to sync my files now? Damn, and megaupload is being a little bitch too. Keeps telling me that I'm already downloading something. Sigh.
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Use jdownloader, it auto downloads from such sites.
 
VanMardigan said:
So wait a sec, I need the Zune 4.8 beta to sync my files now? Damn, and megaupload is being a little bitch too. Keeps telling me that I'm already downloading something. Sigh.
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Yep, you need 4.8. Try resetting your router to get a new IP.

I love how the 4.8 beta is almost unchanged from 4.7, which is sooo frustrating. That can't be all they've done.
 
Accuweather's live tile does update. I've seen it update thrice throughout the day. I guess the problem may be that it doesn't update regularly.
 
as much as i'd love to wait for a Nokia phone, knowing that Samsung is hogging up all the samoled+ screens to themselves makes them the obvious choice for my next phone.
 
What a douchebag. Guy buys my Focus for $185 on eBay and sends me an email saying "cancel it, I got a new one". Thanks for wasting my time.
 
thirty said:
as much as i'd love to wait for a Nokia phone, knowing that Samsung is hogging up all the samoled+ screens to themselves makes them the obvious choice for my next phone.
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I am kinda wary about getting another Samsung phone with all the update debacles involving their phone.
 
antiquegamer said:
I am kinda wary about getting another Samsung phone with all the update debacles involving their phone.
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Yeah, as sexy as SAOLED+ might be, I'd rather not wait another few months for an update, after everyone else already got it.

e: I mean, we're talking about how great mango is, when there are still a lot of Focus and Omnia users out there, that are still waiting for NoDo.
 
Milly79 said:
What a douchebag. Guy buys my Focus for $185 on eBay and sends me an email saying "cancel it, I got a new one". Thanks for wasting my time.
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Yeah, eBay can be a pain. I have a guy win an item, took about a week to finally get back to me about payment then simply want me to essentially ship the item to him oversea for free.
 
More about Nokia's plans to help the WP ecosystem.

Marco Argenti, Nokia’s senior vice-president of developer and marketplace, told the Financial Times that the Finnish handset manufacturer would seek to galvanise its network of independent developers in dozens of countries to ensure that “the richest set of applications possible” is available when its first Windows device is launched later this year.

“One of the things that developers can see very clearly is with Nokia coming into the picture, the distribution of the Windows Phone changes quite a bit,” he said, “which means we are going to create opportunities for local developers, so there are more apps in general and more local apps.”

Localised apps could include a cricket app for India, one for football in Italy, or an app for regional banks and newspapers. These will be promoted by Nokia in the relevant countries, both at the point of sale and through a special Nokia-branded portal for the Windows Phone Marketplace.

Mr Argenti said he would prioritise quality over quantity. “If you are immersed in a sea of hundreds of thousands of apps without a careful way of local discovery, it doesn’t translate into success.

Many country-specific apps are available on Android and iPhone devices but Nokia says it can provide something distinctive for both vendors and users, given its long-standing efforts to work with developers around the world.

Mr Argenti’s unit at Nokia employs 700 people globally, with a further 300 in local offices. Nokia will provide local payment processing services, such as billing through operator contracts – something Android lacks in many countries.

This means developers can charge for apps, giving them greater returns than relying on advertising for revenues.
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http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/910fa8ba-a58d-11e0-83b2-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1R8YfdACd

Engadget's Thomas Ricker wrote in September an editorial about Nokia's future and why they wouldn't switch to Android or Windows Phone. Editorial: Nokia's not going to switch to Android or Windows Phone 7, so stop it already

It's not about how wrong he was, but how right he was and how it still turned out.

That brings us to Windows Phone 7. Granted, Elop is coming from Microsoft so it's natural to assume his role as Nokia CEO could ease the way for even deeper collaboration between the two companies. But think about it, Windows Phone 7 is a complete re-write of Microsoft's mobile phone OS... just like MeeGo. There's absolutely no advantage to Nokia ditching MeeGo / Symbian for an unproven mobile operating system today, not with Nokia's vast base of existing users. And what would Nokia gain by carrying a fourth OS, essentially throwing itself into the cut-throat role of another Microsoft OEM when Nokia's profit margins are already razor thin? Nokia is hungry for those big juicy margins enjoyed by Apple and RIM, companies that differentiate themselves by owning the hardware, software, and services they sell.
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I couldn't resist...I'm updating to Mango right now. I've done all the usual backups etc, so I won't be too upset if it all breaks and falls apart. As long as my phone isn't completely bricked.
 
antiquegamer said:
I am kinda wary about getting another Samsung phone with all the update debacles involving their phone.
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That is one of the biggest reasons my next phone will be nokia.... something tells me they will be getting updates day 1 as long as they are ms's partner (along with all the other stuff being that preferred partner will bring).
 
it's super amoled+ or bust. this is coming from a guy who wasn't impressed with the focus's oversaturated super amoled either. i've seen an infuse in person and the screen is godly.

are focus owners on att really still without nodo? regardless, i think the screen is more important than timely updates.
 
jagowar said:
That is one of the biggest reasons my next phone will be nokia.... something tells me they will be getting updates day 1 as long as they are ms's partner (along with all the other stuff being that preferred partner will bring).
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Yeah, I'm thinking this too...but I need SAMOLED
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Focus devices with a certain hardware revision (1.4) are still having problems with updates.

Samsung made some kind of minor internal change without telling Microsoft that has been wreaking havoc on the update process.

My focus is a 1.3, as I bought it in november of last year shortly after launch and I've had absolutely no problems with getting and applying updates.
 
thirty said:
it's super amoled+ or bust. this is coming from a guy who wasn't impressed with the focus's oversaturated super amoled either. i've seen an infuse in person and the screen is godly.

are focus owners on att really still without nodo? regardless, i think the screen is more important than timely updates.
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I must be oblivious or something but I have no issues with the screen on my Focus.

What is the OS version number for nodo?
 
thirty said:
are focus owners on att really still without nodo? regardless, i think the screen is more important than timely updates.
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May:
To accommodate high demand for the Focus last year, two separate sources of flash memory components were required during manufacturing. Focus models are identical in all other ways.

Most Focus owners are receiving our updates. But some customers with handsets containing the alternative memory component aren’t. We’re now working closely with Samsung and AT&T to test and deliver an update for this group. As soon as I have more specifics, I’ll let you know.
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June 15:
First, we’re now scheduling the 7392 update for the HTC Surround on AT&T. Other models will follow.

We’ve also made progress on getting the remaining Samsung Focus models updated. We’ve worked through the last of the technical hurdles with AT&T and Samsung, and are now actively scheduling the final set of tests and the subsequent roll out of updates to Focus handsets with the alternate memory. I don’t have hard dates yet.
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This is from last week:

Hello everyone. Busy week.

Updates for the Samsung Focus with the memory variant are in the final phases of testing. Here’s what to expect when they become available. You’ll receive two back-to-back update notifications. The first is for the 7008 update. Once installed, you can then immediately update to 7392 (which will also include the 7390 “copy and paste” update).

This week we also restarted update deliveries to Omnia 7 handsets on Orange. We’re currently delivering both 7390 and 7392 to these phones as one bundled update. Update Central explains how to download and install them.
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NoDo was the April update, right? :lol

SCHUEY F1 said:
What is the OS version number for nodo?
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7.0.7390 and 7392 is NoDo incl. the SSL update for IE.
 
I present to you the issues/bugs/shenanigans I've encountered with mango this past three days:

+ Unexpected shutdown when charging and browsing bing. Had to remove battery for a few seconds. Had to recalibrate battery afterwards (perhaps not a mango issue, but ocurred just after updating).

+ Alarm snooze: Time between first snooze, 6 min. Between second snooze, 5 min. Between third snooze, 9 min. UPDATE: I've been testing this and it appears snooze times are random according to the use you're giving to the phone. Maybe not be a mango feature/issue, but something I recently noticed.

+ Sometimes it will autocorrect my words, but instead of replacing the word, it will insert next to the word. Example: wellohello (instead of replacing wello with hello).

+ Maybe not an issue, but I've noticed less warnings regarding low battery. Perhaps I'm not unlocking it very often. May be a weclomed feature.

+ (Broswer) Black bars on secondapps.com/neogaf.

+ (App) Rowi's in browser doesn't work (crashes).

+ "Rate and review" now doesn't show you other people's reviews. I used to like to check reviews then and again of some apps and that was a neat shortcut. Guess it's ok this way.

+ Podcasts disappearing. I noticed this after I tried to sync wirelessly (first time, no less) and windows threw me an error. Afterwards, podcast listings showed up but no episodes were available. A usb resync fixed this issue (although I had two podcast listings for the same show and I had to manually delete the one with no shows at all).
 
SCHUEY F1 said:
With the AccuWeather app, I turned the live tile off and it seems to work better...weird.
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I'm liking it better than Weather channel and it updates better for me. of course I'm on wifi mostly so dont know if that helps
 
As crazy as I was about the platform at 1st, I'm just not feeling the drive anymore. It saddens me. :(

I think I'm just gonna roll with my current NoDo setup on my Focus and wait for the real update.
 
Is there anyway to get rid of the 'Automatically share pictures online?' popup when browsing through pictures in the camera?
 
Brettison said:
As crazy as I was about the platform at 1st, I'm just not feeling the drive anymore. It saddens me. :(

I think I'm just gonna roll with my current NoDo setup on my Focus and wait for the real update.
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Install Mango and you will once again be excited :)
 
Brettison said:
As crazy as I was about the platform at 1st, I'm just not feeling the drive anymore. It saddens me. :(

I think I'm just gonna roll with my current NoDo setup on my Focus and wait for the real update.
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Update. It will take about a half hour.

Mango actually makes me want to get a Window Phone 7 device. It's what WP7 should have been from day one.
 
So all Windows Phone 7 devices will be able to update to mango (7.5), right? I can't wait until I can use some fucking custom ring tones... hopefully I can just use the MP3s I already have saved to my phone (like with all the Windows Mobile 5 phones) instead of having to create them with extra software. Now if only Microsoft would update the 360 dash and enable Rewind/Fast-Forward with music...

On another note, I just got a job with Verizon! Makes me regret signing a contract with T-Mobile that much more (add in the fact that I am constantly losing signal and horrible customer service that has lied to me on 3 different occasions already), hopefully I can get out of this contract sooner rather than later. When I finally do and sign up with Verizon I will probably just get a Droid, not like Verizon has many WP7 devices anyway, and the Trophy seems like a step down from the HD7 I already have, and I don't think it's 4G.
 
SlaughterX said:
So all Windows Phone 7 devices will be able to update to mango (7.5), right? I can't wait until I can use some fucking custom ring tones... hopefully I can just use the MP3s I already have saved to my phone (like with all the Windows Mobile 5 phones) instead of having to create them with extra software.
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39 seconds or shorter
smaller than 1 megabyte (MB)
saved in MP3 or WMA format
not copy-protected (i.e. DRM free)
 
Brettison said:
As crazy as I was about the platform at 1st, I'm just not feeling the drive anymore. It saddens me. :(

I think I'm just gonna roll with my current NoDo setup on my Focus and wait for the real update.
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Mango has some really nice stuff, and we haven't gotten the third party apps that will make great use of it, but I'm also be a bit disappointed with what's available now. I was really hyped for the ie9 browser but it's not as good as i expected/hoped. :(
 
Greyface said:
Mango has some really nice stuff, and we haven't gotten the third party apps that will make great use of it, but I'm also be a bit disappointed with what's available now. I was really hyped for the ie9 browser but it's not as good as i expected/hoped. :(
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What were you expecting the browser to do that it's not?


For me personally, Mango has rekindled my affection for the platform.

Many things feel better and faster than they were.. especially application installs.
 
Earl Cazone said:
so i cant just use a random mp3 file and my phone does the rest?
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No. You'll have to use an external app to select the segment of the song, set its genre to ringtone and then sync it via Zune.
 
Robobandit said:
What were you expecting the browser to do that it's not?


For me personally, Mango has rekindled my affection for the platform.

Many things feel better and faster than they were.. especially application installs.
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the browser still doesnt render every page as i'd expect nor does it have features I'd expect. Yes, it's visibly better in many ways, but many pages still come with wrongly sized text and little oddities still plagues the experience (like the 'jump to first unread post link' on neogaf isn't working). The new interface doesn't work out too well either: The refresh/stop button is using up valuable space and the demoted tab button is sorely missed, especially since the multitasking view occasionally doesn't show an open window. Despite all the improvements, the browser in mango is still, at best, the fourth ranked mobile browser. Based on all the hype (it's the desktop ie 9 rendering engine, html5 compliant etc) i really thought it'd be up there with mobile safari :/
 
Greyface said:
the browser still doesnt render every page as i'd expect nor does it have features I'd expect. Yes, it's visibly better in many ways, but many pages still come with wrongly sized text and little oddities still plagues the experience (like the 'jump to first unread post link' on neogaf isn't working). The new interface doesn't work out too well either: The refresh/stop button is using up valuable space and the demoted tab button is sorely missed, especially since the multitasking view occasionally doesn't show an open window. Despite all the improvements, the browser in mango is still, at best, the fourth ranked mobile browser. Based on all the hype (it's the desktop ie 9 rendering engine, html5 compliant etc) i really thought it'd be up there with mobile safari :/
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The original browser was a piece of shit; this is a big improvement.

I don't see the refresh button as taking up space because it's next to the address bar; there isn't much room to work with. Perhaps it would be nice to let the user choose what the button does, but I can't complain too much about the new layout. I like the switch from the top to the bottom, it's much more thumb friendly.
 
I think I'll have to agree that the browser just hasn't impressed me. It is better, no doubt, but it doesn't match the Android browser or even Safari on ios.

Still, the OS as a whole is just flat out better in my humble opinion. Using my mother in law's iphone 4 or my wife's captivate just doesn't compare. And that was before Mango, now it's just not close for me. I demoed Mango for both of them and both were really impressed. My wife's next phone will be wp7.
 
IE 9 on the desktop is not what MS cracks it up to be, so I'm not at all surprised that the mobile version is no good either.

I would have been all over WP7 if it were not for the Bing and IE lockdown. If I move to it, it will be very much despite them.
 
More than fine, with the new local scout, vision and audio, it can be much more useful than Google search. Of course, the Google mobile site works just fine anyway.
 
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