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I'd do more on my phone if I had more apps to do certain things. I'd use stuff like xfinity for my DVR, watch ESPN to watch sports, or Minecraft to build stuff on my phone. I'd kill for something like garageband for music creation though obviously it would be better suited for a tablet like screen.
 
Brettison said:
I'd do more on my phone if I had more apps to do certain things. I'd use stuff like xfinity for my DVR, watch ESPN to watch sports, or Minecraft to build stuff on my phone.
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Some of those things are dev specific. So yeah, Apollo is the new Mango, if you know what I mean. You better get used to it, because you'll hear it a lot in the next 10 months. MIX12 will be fun.
 
brotkasten said:
Some of those things are dev specific. So yeah, Apollo is the new Mango, if you know what I mean. You better get used to it, because you'll hear it a lot in the next 10 months. MIX12 will be fun.
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I'm not saying it isn't dev specific, but it's still MS' problem since it's their platform.

PS: LOL it's wait for the next big update all over again. At anyrate MS has me under wraps till next fall. Then I'll reevaluate where I am at.
 
Brettison said:
I'm not saying it isn't dev specific, but it's still MS' problem since it's their platform.

PS: LOL it's wait for the next big update all over again. At anyrate MS has me under wraps till next fall. Then I'll reevaluate where I am at.
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At least it will be easy for you to switch, since you didn't invest that much money into WP7 apps (cuz there are no apps, lol).

But seriously, yeah. Wait for the next big thing all over again. Apollo will bring some nice things to the table, but it gives Apple and Google more time to re-invent and integrate some of the good ideas.

In the meantime I'd like to see MS pushing out more smaller updates, like 7740, Tango and start with the OTA updates. The 7740 roll out went surprisingly well.
 
Nero3000 said:
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Mmmmm..Lumia.
 
brotkasten said:
The Office team doesn't really give a shit about Windows. They're Microsoft's second biggest pillar and already cockblocked Microsoft's first tablet attempt.

I still don't see how Office iPad would be bigger than this:

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Thanks to this, people and companies around the world don't have any need for a Windows PC.
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microsoft makes more money on office than windows anyway, not much though.
 
Working on Mac Outlook in a Windows office is the most frustrating thing :(

Current plan: Use my shitty BlackBerry Torch 9800 until Nokia Lumia 900. Buy that outright and use until my contract runs out in August 2013. See what platform suits me best at that time and switch to Mobilicity or Wind and be free of the big 3 forever.
 
Firestorm said:
Working on Mac Outlook in a Windows office is the most frustrating thing :(

Current plan: Use my shitty BlackBerry Torch 9800 until Nokia Lumia 900. Buy that outright and use until my contract runs out in August 2013. See what platform suits me best at that time and switch to Mobilicity or Wind and be free of the big 3 forever.
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Mobilicity and Wind use different phones that the big 3 (AWS phones) and I don't think the Lumia 800 is supported on their network. I'm really hoping Nokia makes some WP7 phones that are AWS compatible in the future.

By the way I have Mobilicity and it's great, unlimited calls, text and data for $25+tax can't be beat.
 
MercuryLS said:
Mobilicity and Wind use different phones that the big 3 (AWS phones) and I don't think the Lumia 800 is supported on their network. I'm really hoping Nokia makes some WP7 phones that are AWS compatible in the future.

By the way I have Mobilicity and it's great, unlimited calls, text and data for $25+tax can't be beat.
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He wrote Nokia 900, not 800. The 900 is the rumored flagship phone for the US.
 
The only thing that could drive me away from WP7 is if Canada continues to get ignored. The 900, the Focus, and the Titan better get announced at CES.
 
MercuryLS said:
Mobilicity and Wind use different phones that the big 3 (AWS phones) and I don't think the Lumia 800 is supported on their network. I'm really hoping Nokia makes some WP7 phones that are AWS compatible in the future.

By the way I have Mobilicity and it's great, unlimited calls, text and data for $25+tax can't be beat.
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I know. I'll be using the 900 on my current Rogers contract. It's super cheap and aside from US texts has everything I need, but from what I've seen Retentions is complete crap and likely won't extend my credits so I'll jump ship once it's over. At that point I'll buy an AWS phone.

MCD said:
You are not alone my friend: http://www.liveside.net/2011/12/08/more-info-and-some-speculation-on-the-microsoft-live-rebranding/
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So we're going to go from Microsoft Messenger (MSN) to Windows Live Messenger (WLM) back to Microsoft Messenger (MSN)? Well, guess it's not like anyone stopped calling it MSN...
 
Windows Live is just too long, hard to keep saying that to my friends instead of "talk to you later on MSN bro!".
 
MCD said:
Windows Live is just too long, hard to keep saying that to my friends instead of "talk to you later on MSN bro!".
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Exactly. MSN became a verb. I'd say "I'll MSN you" or "MSN me later". I don't know why they tried to change it at that point. Sometimes I feel Microsoft is really out of touch with any country outside the United States...
 
Firestorm said:
Exactly. MSN became a verb. I'd say "I'll MSN you" or "MSN me later". I don't know why they tried to change it at that point. Sometimes I feel Microsoft is really out of touch with any country outside the United States...
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they're out of touch withing their own country. i mean who works at the marketing department over there. i still so no windows phone ads in canada.
 
Korey said:
I'm pretty sure you're the only one who does this
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So basically you live in the United States and thinks the entire world is the same as wherever you live. This is exactly what I'm saying Microsoft does. There are many regions in the world (Canada and France are good examples) where MSN is the #1 instant messaging client of choice. They've been losing a lot of customers to Skype and Facebook lately by not taking Messenger seriously in those countries.
 
I can vouch for what Firestorm said about MSN being, far and away, the #1 IM platform of choice in Canada but I have never heard it used as a verb before and, frankly, I would block anyone heinous enough to do that to me.
 
bigtroyjon said:
All the mall parking lots in northern WA are filled with Canadian license plates but that doesn't mean Washington is part of Canada.
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sorry they were meant to be two different thoughts. if you want an example of how they lost touch within their domain, then talk to me when its not 1 am in the morning.
 
Nero3000 said:
Maybe it is just my own use case for a phone, but the way i use apps and the services i use, are just to get at information. Now in the example below all the information is bubbled up for me in Windows Phone, that wouldn't happen in iOS.

From that one screen: i know what my next appointment is, the balance on my oystercard and the weather/temp outside. Three apps i dont have to go in and out of (the boring part). oh and i have to update 3 apps at some point.

Plus the start screen is personal and alive, my contacts pictures change every so often, and twitter feeds of people i know also bubble up. Its always nice to see when someone has changed their picture on facebook. So you dig in, see what new,oh look theyre online, lets chat.
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I like it a lot, but they could still do more. Not sure if the live tiles are amazing or slightly restricting. I like the android widgets as they have the capability to provide more glanceable information than livetiles - eg inbox summary, actual tweets/facebook updates, but as you say it requires effort.

So I don't think any of the three main platforms is perfect. I like android's flexible widget method of providing information, iOS range of apps, and WP7's tiles.

I think the app thing is overblown. Other than games, aren't most of the 'major' apps on all three platforms now (or will be fairly soon)? Eventually that should normalise and apps shouldn't be a deciding factor on what platform you buy into. Although if you've purchased a lot of apps on one particular platform that might keep you there.
 
microsoft is clearly lining up their exit strategy if nokia and WP8 doesn't catch a foothold.

carriers, developers, and phone makers need to understand though that they need this to be a 3 horse race. if it's just apple and android, apple will hold the carriers by the balls.
 
Any idea what could randomly eat up nearly 200MB of data in 3 or 4 days? Never use much data so that's what I've had my cap set at for a long time now. Only really use data for browsing GAF from the secondapps site (images off) and checking the people hub, plus a couple updating live tiles (had HTC Hub, Calandar).

Up until this week I was using like 1-2MB a day. Then suddenly I've used nearly 190MB over the last few days. Apparently my brother also has this problem (Android though), hardly does anything but text on his phone, but still somehow uses a bunch of data out of nowhere.
 
chaosblade said:
Any idea what could randomly eat up nearly 200MB of data in 3 or 4 days? Never use much data so that's what I've had my cap set at for a long time now. Only really use data for browsing GAF from the secondapps site (images off) and checking the people hub, plus a couple updating live tiles (had HTC Hub, Calandar).

Up until this week I was using like 1-2MB a day. Then suddenly I've used nearly 190MB over the last few days. Apparently my brother also has this problem (Android though), hardly does anything but text on his phone, but still somehow uses a bunch of data out of nowhere.
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did you take a lot of pictures and had the "upload to skydrive" option enabled? that could use a lot of data.
 
i got given an HTC radar for a week on a trip to the US last week, and really liked it. in the unlikely event of there being something resembling a lumia 800 out in japan next summer, i am there.
 
mrklaw said:
I think the app thing is overblown. Other than games, aren't most of the 'major' apps on all three platforms now (or will be fairly soon)? Eventually that should normalise and apps shouldn't be a deciding factor on what platform you buy into. Although if you've purchased a lot of apps on one particular platform that might keep you there.
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How is it overblown? WP7 has roughly 40k in apps submitted (you probably have access to about 30k when you take into account what's been pulled and what's available in your area. Contrast that to iOS and Android who have 500k + and we aren't even in the same ball park.

Hard to say all of the major apps are on WP7 when WP7 has less than 10% of the total apps that the other two major marketplaces do unless we only consider like 2-3 % of the apps on the other app stores "major".
 
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