Sky Interloper
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Brace for impact people!
I don't believe they will drop a WIP OS, but Nadella wasn't the biggest fan of the Nokia acquisition. Some big changes are coming to the Lumia division, that I'm sure of.
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I don't believe they will drop a WIP OS, but Nadella wasn't the biggest fan of the Nokia acquisition. Some big changes are coming to the Lumia division, that I'm sure of.
frontieruk
Member
renamed surface and given to the surface design team please... and I have it on good authority that Nadella was a huge fan of Zune so hopefully Zune will come back
lastflowers
Banned
haha, I don't think that's happening.
frontieruk
Member
Sky Interloper
Member
renamed surface and given to the surface design team please... and I have it on good authority that Nadella was a huge fan of Zune so hopefully Zune will come back
Maybe they'll rebrand their flagship, but I can't see them dropping the Lumia brand. But I'll take anything to fix the mess of their mobile portfolio.
As for Zune, I don't see it happening, considering those whispers to move away from Xbox to Microsoft, as it is their strongest brand. But it is still possible, as the name lacks the baggage of its current incarnation.
Good stuff, downloading now.
juliushandle
Member
Lumia brand has been dead. New phones were suppose to have the LUMIA name but have been replaced with the Microsoft name. The email from Satya makes no mention of Lumia.
juliushandle
Member
The new Surface 3 also has no "Surface" branding that all previous Surfaces did.
Basically, Lumia and Surface brands are dead.
Basically, Lumia and Surface brands are dead.
I'm questioning whether there is actually any use of posting my impressions of the new build here anymore or whether people just don't give a fuck at this stage.
I'm fine either way. I can throw my support behind the WP Stockholm syndrome thread too where we just moan about how everything has gone to horrible shit but we're held hostage by the sweet sweet horse that is WP despite having moved to Android months ago.
I'm fine either way. I can throw my support behind the WP Stockholm syndrome thread too where we just moan about how everything has gone to horrible shit but we're held hostage by the sweet sweet horse that is WP despite having moved to Android months ago.
MrGreencastle
Member
I'll be posting my impressions once it's done installing. If you want to, why not?
juliushandle
Member
Yes, please post them. I'll install it in my 830 eventually.
Despite my gloom and doom, I'll go down with the ship before switching to android or iPhone.
Despite my gloom and doom, I'll go down with the ship before switching to android or iPhone.
MrGreencastle
Member
First impression for me is it's much smoother than pretty much every other build so far. Lumia 920. Still playing around with settings and such. No apps installed. Upgraded build from the last, not a factory reset. I'll do a factory reset a bit later to see if it makes any difference at all.
edit: also, in the extras+info section, it says I'm still running Lumia Cyan rather than Black. Does that make any difference, or have I technically received those updates since I'm on a Windows 10 build now?
edit: also, in the extras+info section, it says I'm still running Lumia Cyan rather than Black. Does that make any difference, or have I technically received those updates since I'm on a Windows 10 build now?
MrGreencastle
Member
Works for me. Maybe you're using the old version or something? This is the first build where it's listed as Edge with the new logo for me. Even PC windows 10 doesn't have that yet.
MrGreencastle
Member
Microsoft Edge? That's weird.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Please do post the impression guys.
Steelyuhas
Member
Alright, I've got the newest build up and running on the tester 635. It's coming together, big performance step up from previous build. I use a 1520 as my daily driver, so it's hard to compare performance, but other than the app crashes and random hiccups, I assume this is probably what the 635 performance is like on 8.1.
Still got some design issues, but improvements have been made and desktop improved what was pretty rough design with a lot of small changes pretty quickly. Lots of new animations and most of them I like, but the circle pictures now roll in the people app and live tile. It looks pretty silly, but I guess they are pretty much decided on the circles.
Oh, and it's on the desktop now as well, but what the hell at this new Music logo?
Still got some design issues, but improvements have been made and desktop improved what was pretty rough design with a lot of small changes pretty quickly. Lots of new animations and most of them I like, but the circle pictures now roll in the people app and live tile. It looks pretty silly, but I guess they are pretty much decided on the circles.
Oh, and it's on the desktop now as well, but what the hell at this new Music logo?
Surface ain't dead. Everything marketing wise says surface. Theyve been selling quite well. MS would be stupid to kill the surface line.
Also post windows 10 phone impressions. Despite the general malaise, I quite enjoy my windows phone. But I'm low maintenance.
TheBryanJZX90
Member
Eww circles?
Maybe they should really build a Surface laptop next. Now that Windows 10 is seemingly getting worse for tablets than 8.1, it might make sense.
lastflowers
Banned
yeah, I'm pretty sure we're stuck with ugly circles. I just installed the latest internal build on my 930, and I'm liking it quite a bit. Obviously very buggy and some real ugly placeholder designs in places, but it's coming together now. The settings menu, oh lordy, is finally usable.
yankeehater
Member
Dammit I just checked and my phone says I am up to date even though I didn't get an update today.
brotkasten
Member
It's great that the phone build is coming along nicely. Still about worried about the desktop build, though.
The only thing I can tell you is that I stopped messing with MP3s, after Zune was dropped. I really loved the library management aspect of it. Get artist info, pictures, album art, quickly edit something if it isn't right and sync all of it over WiFi in a click. Not to mention the music discovery aspect. I loved MixView, Smart DJ was the shit and both worked really, really well. It was a great end-user experience for me. Does Xbox Music even have the Now Playing screen? Or on the lockscreen? Did that ever come back? Does the Live Tile even work?
Zune was simply something I really enjoyed in many ways and taking that away, without properly replacing it, really left me sour.
The only thing I can tell you is that I stopped messing with MP3s, after Zune was dropped. I really loved the library management aspect of it. Get artist info, pictures, album art, quickly edit something if it isn't right and sync all of it over WiFi in a click. Not to mention the music discovery aspect. I loved MixView, Smart DJ was the shit and both worked really, really well. It was a great end-user experience for me. Does Xbox Music even have the Now Playing screen? Or on the lockscreen? Did that ever come back? Does the Live Tile even work?
Zune was simply something I really enjoyed in many ways and taking that away, without properly replacing it, really left me sour.
Twin Tails
Member
WinPhone7 Wireless Syncing, Zune soft was awesome, album art work display. Fuck this POS shit app.
Running new build on 920 (I reverted back to 8.1 cause it ran like trash). Runs less like trash now, stuff still doesn't work. Random rebooting, clunky as hell apps don't launch.. I'll probably go back to 8.1, still doesn't feel smooth at all.
Running new build on 920 (I reverted back to 8.1 cause it ran like trash). Runs less like trash now, stuff still doesn't work. Random rebooting, clunky as hell apps don't launch.. I'll probably go back to 8.1, still doesn't feel smooth at all.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Bless your hearts. I don't have the guts to install any beta shit on my phone.
All the apps stopped working so I did a hard reset. That didn't restore any of my apps (but Edge was there), so I'm now recovery tooling the shit out of it.
This is almost like dealing with Android. But with a far smaller chance to do any actual damage to your phone.
This is almost like dealing with Android. But with a far smaller chance to do any actual damage to your phone.
One for us in the UK, the national trust has launched an app.
https://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/...d6633-ecd6-426d-8964-fdddb65d841f?signin=true
It's very slick
https://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/...d6633-ecd6-426d-8964-fdddb65d841f?signin=true
It's very slick
José Mourinho
cocknose
I'll never understand how big devs with loads of money seemingly can't justify a WP app yet the National Trust can.
I think the hard decision is to kill off any Nokia branding and design, hand the phone design to the Surface team and be done with it. I'd line up to buy a Surface Phone, I'll maybe purchase a 1040/940/1540 when my battery starts to die on my 1520.
It's a tough decision but it's for the best.
Edt: I love my 1520, I adore it. But my Surface Pro 3 is THE BEST piece of technology I've ever owned, full stop. I'd love for that to be how I feel about my phone too.
It's a tough decision but it's for the best.
Edt: I love my 1520, I adore it. But my Surface Pro 3 is THE BEST piece of technology I've ever owned, full stop. I'd love for that to be how I feel about my phone too.
As someone that just upgraded from a surface pro 2 to a pro 3. I agree.
Its like the perfect form factor, 3:2, resolution, kickstand, thinnes. The battery is amazing. I was at a local Microsoft meeting yesterday, I got there at 8:45, left at 4:30, my surface was on the entire time and I was using it, I left with 40% left on my battery. I do have the powercover which adds a good chunk of battery as well.
brotkasten
Member
I really should've become a tech blogger. I could rant and whine all day on Twitter and people would still read it!
He's become a petulant little child.
I don't mind moaning, cynicism and ranting at all as long as it's not the entitled musings of a petulant arse. Which in Warren's case it is, and in yours it is not.
<6rot.
edit: hold on, he's on the forum. Can't call him a cunt-hound in that case.
I don't mind moaning, cynicism and ranting at all as long as it's not the entitled musings of a petulant arse. Which in Warren's case it is, and in yours it is not.
<6rot.
edit: hold on, he's on the forum. Can't call him a cunt-hound in that case.
juliushandle
Member
It's far from dead. What I meant is the branding is dead. Yes its still the Surface but the Surface 3 lacked "Surface" branding that the previous models had. "Lumia" branding has also removed in favor of "Microsoft."
juliushandle
Member
As long as Pureview tech carries over I'm fine with that. But that scenario is probably in the works already. I think there are "tougher choices" coming.
brotkasten
Member
I usually miss Thurrott and Warren fighting on Twitter, but I imagine that it looks something like this.
Sky Interloper
Member
It seems the new build is good enough. Does anyone who took the plunge recommend it for a daily driver (820) or should I wait?
Considering that the Microsoft brand is stronger, I wouldn't doubt any mentions of the Lumia or the Surface lines directly on the hardware are gone for the next models. But both hardware will keep their names, as I don't believe any of them have the insurmountable baggage as something like Internet Explorer.
Also, just using the Microsoft logo - as the Surface 3 - looks classier than writing the entire name. I hope the next Lumias go that way in branding.
Considering that the Microsoft brand is stronger, I wouldn't doubt any mentions of the Lumia or the Surface lines directly on the hardware are gone for the next models. But both hardware will keep their names, as I don't believe any of them have the insurmountable baggage as something like Internet Explorer.
Also, just using the Microsoft logo - as the Surface 3 - looks classier than writing the entire name. I hope the next Lumias go that way in branding.