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This pretty much sums up MS conferences

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Such a cool phone and exciting OS, yet MS just seems to make things boring =\
 
TheVerge said:
Though you can get basic walking and driving directions by hitting the "directions" button in the Maps toolbar, choosing the directions menu item on a point of interest gives you a "you need an app for that" pop-up that’s not unlike the one iOS 6 now gives users when they try to get transit information. The list of available apps to handle direction-giving will presumably be populated with options like Nokia Drive soon, but in our early testing, none were in the Store. I don't understand why you can get a list of directions from the toolbar, but not from a POI.

WTF?? Why would they change driving directions to external app?????
 
I don't see 7.9 as that bad. iOS 6 was rated 8.5. And they take off for eco system, which they should.

Pandora was a huge gap. So was some of the really popular games (Words with Friends, Temple Run, Angry Birds in Space, Jetpack, Wheres my Water, etc.) so they're making strides.

Surprised an instagram announcement wasn't snuck in.

I'm still waiting on to see what happens. I'll keep my options open for my upgrade in mid January.
 
I think nit was announced a while ago that rogers had exclusivity on the lumia 920. I think everyone or at least bell and telus are definitely getting the htc 8x.
I'm buying my phone outright so I was looking at either the 8S or the 820. I might get the 920 if it's worth it but phones are so expensive. Do we know who's getting those yet?
 
I don't see 7.9 as that bad. iOS 6 was rated 8.5. And they take off for eco system, which they should.

Pandora was a huge gap. So was some of the really popular games (Words with Friends, Temple Run, Angry Birds in Space, Jetpack, Wheres my Water, etc.) so they're making strides.

Surprised an instagram announcement wasn't snuck in.

I'm still waiting on to see what happens. I'll keep my options open for my upgrade in mid January.

iOS 6 was pretty much universally seen as a major disappointment, wasn't it?
 
Microsoft: 120,000 apps. 46 of the top 50 apps are on Windows Phone 8. Windoes RT Kernel, Unity Engine, app development easier than ever. Free SDKs released to everyone tomorrow.

Verge: 5/10 Ecosystem
 
Microsoft: 120,000 apps. 46 of the top 50 apps are on Windows Phone 8. Windoes RT Kernel, Unity Engine, app development easier than ever. Free SDKs released to everyone tomorrow.

Verge: 5/10 Ecosystem

No Instagram removes 2 points obviously.

edit: the pocketnow videos are fantastic!
 
Microsoft: 120,000 apps. 46 of the top 50 apps are on Windows Phone 8. Windoes RT Kernel, Unity Engine, app development easier than ever. Free SDKs released to everyone tomorrow.

Verge: 5/10 Ecosystem

So you think they should review based on promises or what's in front of them?
 
Another thing I hadn't known before:

In Windows Phone 8, the keyboard incorporates something from its Research division that it calls "Word Flow," which operates much like the phrase prediction technology in SwiftKey and the keyboard found in Android 4.1

The word prediction in the keyboard is now much improved.
 
Oh, Jesus Christ. Ignore the people on here. The Verge is even-handed judging by the fact that Apple fanboys (Gruber, Arment), Android fanboys, and Windows fanboys hate on them constantly.

That Lumia 900 review was perfectly fine. The Surface review pretty much read the same as the iPad 1 review by the same guy.

I remember when the iphone 5 launched. They did a full podcast on it and then on the regular podcast they spend 75% of the time talking about the iphone 5 again and spend 10 minutes talking about the htc windows phones that were announced the day before.

The verge and engadget are pretty bias against windows products . Have you read the surface review ? It felt heavier and so he took points off dispite it being lighter
 
Microsoft: 120,000 apps. 46 of the top 50 apps are on Windows Phone 8. Windoes RT Kernel, Unity Engine, app development easier than ever. Free SDKs released to everyone tomorrow.

Verge: 5/10 Ecosystem

It has pretty bad Google integration, they are all about their G-clients. I know that really hurt the score.

e: As usual, Pocketnow has the best video coverage on the net of the OS. The dude is super creepy but he does a great job.
 
Microsoft: 120,000 apps. 46 of the top 50 apps are on Windows Phone 8. Windoes RT Kernel, Unity Engine, app development easier than ever. Free SDKs released to everyone tomorrow.

Verge: 5/10 Ecosystem

Not Windows RT Kernel, Windows 8 kernel (not 100%).

I remember when the iphone 5 launched. They did a full podcast on it and then on the regular podcast they spend 75% of the time talking about the iphone 5 again and spend 10 minutes talking about the htc windows phones that were announced the day before.

The verge and engadget are pretty bias against windows products . Have you read the surface review ? It felt heavier and so he took points off dispite it being lighter

10 minutes? Joshua Topolsky had the HTC 8X's on stage, spend 2 minutes talking about it and filled all that time by nagging on how he wants Android on them.
 
It has pretty bad Google integration, they are all about their G-clients. I know that really hurt the score.

e: As usual, Pocketnow has the best video coverage on the net of the OS. The dude is super creepy but he does a great job.

The Verge tools are almost 100% google and the verge staff always complain about how gmail and google intergration sucks on windows phone. Part of that is Googles fault, as they force windows phone's browser to default to a WAP only page when navigating to gmail, and there is no official gmail app. This will always be the haze over their reviews.
 
Watching that Verge video review, I am so glad that the os is still as smooth as ever. I guess Microsoft just want to leave phone availability to carriers.
 
Microsoft also baked in some nice additional pieces, including the ability to customize the button on the toolbar and find text on a page. Finding text in a page, especially, is really great on IE10 — it jumps and zooms to each instance quickly and painlessly.

Fucking finally.
 
I remember when the iphone 5 launched. They did a full podcast on it and then on the regular podcast they spend 75% of the time talking about the iphone 5 again and spend 10 minutes talking about the htc windows phones that were announced the day before.

The verge and engadget are pretty bias against windows products . Have you read the surface review ? It felt heavier and so he took points off dispite it being lighter
I'm going to assume this is a typo, even though it really and truly upsets me whenever it happens.

The weight complaint was more about how the weight is distributed on a 16:9 device. I believe it's 1.5 lbs compared to 1.44 lbs on the iPad 3, so it's marginally heavier.

You know why the iPhone 5 gets a full podcast at launch? Because it's the iPhone. No other single device is going to get that sort of coverage. There's a demand for that level of coverage, and it's silly to hold it against every publication for going full iPhone on Apple Press Conference days.

Now by "bias" you mean "prejudice." Whatever prejudice you perceive is just not there. They held Android to the same level of criticism regarding the app ecosystem until the platform really and truly caught up in early 2011. It's going to look worse for Windows because there are now two platforms with robust application ecosystems in the marketplace.

The Lumia 900's review was perfectly fair, and it seems doubly justified with Microsoft's decision to cut off support for legacy devices at the knees with WP8.

Everyone fixates so damn much on the "negatives," seeking any perceived slight on a platform as some sort of personal condemnation. There are plenty of positives in that WP8 review. They call it the best home screen mobile experience out there, for crying out loud. What do you want?
The Verge tools are almost 100% google and the verge staff always complain about how gmail and google intergration sucks on windows phone. Part of that is Googles fault, as they force windows phone's browser to default to a WAP only page when navigating to gmail, and there is no official gmail app. This will always be the haze over their reviews.
A shitty Gmail experience affects about 99% of us nerds that post on GAF. Hell, the Gmail experience on iOS is mediocre at best.
 
Is there no notification trey on windows phone? I saw that mentioned in the verge review. How do you know if you get a new notification outside of seeing the number on the tile? Is there an LED at least on these phones?
 
Is there no notification trey on windows phone? I saw that mentioned in the verge review. How do you know if you get a new notification outside of seeing the number on the tile? Is there an LED at least on these phones?

There are notifications at the top of your screen, but they disappear after a few seconds and don't get collected in one place.

That MS made the conscious decision to not include a notification center because they follow the philosophy of live tiles is my single biggest gripe with WP.

Perhaps fittingly for WP8, I thought the Verge review felt a bit rushed. Gonna read the others now.
 
A shitty Gmail experience affects about 99% of us nerds that post on GAF. Hell, the Gmail experience on iOS is mediocre at best.

Not in the same way they use Gmail. Do you have extreme amount of labels and scripts running in gmail? Or do you.. you know.. just get email and put it in folders? I have 3 email accounts on windows phone 7.5, two are gmail and they run just fine.
 
There are notifications at the top of your screen, but they disappear after a few seconds and don't get collected in one place.

That MS made the conscious decision to not include a notification center because they follow the philosophy of live tiles is my single biggest gripe with WP.
Well, it is strangely redundant, although I think most of us would argue that it's not overly dissimilar from the badge/notification experience on Android and iOS.
Not in the same way they use Gmail. Do you have extreme amount of labels and scripts running in gmail? Or do you.. you know.. just get email and put it in folders? I have 3 email accounts on windows phone 7.5, two are gmail and they run just fine.
Who the hell doesn't use Labels in Gmail?
 
There are notifications at the top of your screen, but they disappear after a few seconds and don't get collected in one place.

That MS made the conscious decision to not include a notification center because they follow the philosophy of live tiles is my single biggest gripe with WP.
that's the dumbest thing ever. Even apple has one for gads sake. And they take 10 years to add everything.
 
Microsoft has made a few tweaks to email, including the option to have a black background on your inbox view, automatically adding Office document attachements to the Office hub, and voice-to-text transcription when composing emails

sweet
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw3nPYwS0MI&t=5m20s

This part of the video demonstrates what happens. I'm sure they'll be a way to set a default one when the apps are released on the store so it'll be pretty much the same as before. And because this way you can choose other map options if you'd like.

Thanks. As long as Nokia Drive is available to everyone, this seems ok. If not, that sucks. I did not mind the Bing Maps turn by turn stuff at all.
 
Well, it is strangely redundant, although I think most of us would argue that it's not overly dissimilar from the badge/notification experience on Android and iOS.

A separate notification center would be redundant, but the current system just doesn't cut it anymore when you have like 10 apps that give you notifications and you never know which one just made your phone vibrate.

that's the dumbest thing ever. Even apple has one for gads sake. And they take 10 years to add everything.

Like I said, conscious decision due to live tiles. Great in theory, wonky in execution.
 
Why the f*uck would they remove Wifi sync? What is wrong with Microsoft Windows Phone team. It's the best feature knowing I don't have to plug my phone in for my picture to get backup to my computer.

Lists of feature being removed (from Pocket Now review)

As usual, whenever Microsoft releases a new mobile operating system, something useful that you might rely on gets removed.
•FM Radio support
•Native turn-by-turn touch to announce driving directions (replaced by third party apps)
•WiFi sync with the desktop (now only cloud sync or USB transfer is available)
•Auto-playlists sync (playlists need to be created manually now)
•Quick share to Facebook. Now you have to press the Share button, scroll, & tap Facebook
•Sharing posts and pictures to the Windows Live Social is gone
•The option to remove location info from pictures when uploading to social networks is gone (but you can still
disallow saving location information with photos)
•The “New Note” start screen tile shortcut is no longer available

The removal of WiFi sync with the desktop is especially annoying now that wireless charging is becoming more prevalent. It would have been so great to just set the phone down and know that in addition to recharging, it would sync my photos, videos, & music playlists with the desktop.

*sigh* as if today couldn't get any worst.
 
All these reviews on the 8x and not the 920...
The HTC 8X's full name is HTC Windows Phone 8X. That is Microsoft default's phone this year.
So you think they should review based on promises or what's in front of them?
Yes and No.

First, lets just look at what's already on the store. 120,000 aps and 46 out of the top 50 is NOT 5/10 for the ecosystem. Come the fuck on. What's the remaining 5 really based on? The obscure couple of cool apps that are on iOS are not on WP7.

Secondly, the review is still going to be a reflection of the OS in 2 months, in 5 months, in 8 months. And with the new kernel and hardware, YOU KNOW that a whole bunch of apps are announced and coming. So they could try and be a little less facetious.

Thirdly, it isn't lost on me that the score is adjusted just to give WP8 a 7.9 instead of an 8. Oh please.
 
This nugget from the PocketNow review explains why the Verge review is rather superficial. at least:

We’ve only had about 24 hours to use this latest iteration of Microsoft’s smartphone operating system
 
Is there no notification trey on windows phone? I saw that mentioned in the verge review. How do you know if you get a new notification outside of seeing the number on the tile? Is there an LED at least on these phones?
WP notifications are:

- lock screen notifications let you know how many missed calls/emails/texts/Facebook/etc notifications you have
- tiles on the home screen will have information on missed notifications (this varies by app)
- toast notifications will pop up at the top of the screen for a few seconds, but if you miss them they are gone, this is where most people wished they were archived
 
From Gizmodo

Rooms—Microsoft's group-chat and planning feature—is another thing I'd love to tell you about. But I can't, because even though I sent out invitations to several of my friends, no one would join my Room. If they had, they would have been able to share the calendar events and notes, but couldn't have used group chat, since that goes through MSN chat protocols, and is exclusive to Windows Phone. On one hand, you can argue that it's just a better version of iMessage. And that's true to a point, but message systems are only as strong as the number of users they have. In all likelihood, Rooms will mostly serve to remind you how few of your family and friends actually use these things.

Isn't it cross platform?
 
This nugget from the PocketNow review explains why the Verge review is rather superficial. at least:
Don't assume that all outlets got equal access.

Ziegler mentioned that he used the maps app in suburban Chicago and downtown Manhattan. He lives in the West Loop of Chicago. That's more than 24 hours.
 
Why the f*uck would they remove Wifi sync? What is wrong with Microsoft Windows Phone team. It's the best feature knowing I don't have to plug my phone in for my picture to get backup to my computer.

Lists of feature being removed (from Pocket Now review)

•Quick share to Facebook. Now you have to press the Share button, scroll, & tap Facebook

*sigh* as if today couldn't get any worst.

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