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Winter 2014 Anime |OT2| Waiting for Sakamoto

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Admiral Woofington

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Looks like the show is going to go out with a bang too. Last episode should be pure

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sonicmj1

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R_thanatos said:
Also parents raising a children as a member of the opposite sex or telling them to act as such ( for whatever reason ) is not something that should not surprise you .

It's present in some anime for a while , some examples include tokyo ravens or shugo chara or oda nobuna or dangan ronpa (4 exemples on the top of my mind and i could go on with this )
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Is this a thing that actually happens in reality, though? Even in Japan, people who are going to act as the opposite sex on stage (men in kabuki, women in takarazuka) aren't "raised" as the opposite sex. In practice it'd lead to all the huge problems that gender dysphoria causes.
 
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survivor said:
Now that I'm about halfway through After Story, I gotta say, it's so much better than the original Clannad. The way drama is introduced or handled isn't that much different so far, but it's more subdued and less silly. Not to mention, the production values somehow jumped a lot in quality and the use of music became much smarter.

Basically, After Story is the type of anime I would associate with KyoAni level of quality, while original Clannad is just a mostly forgettable adaptation that any studio can make without any effort.
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Well hold on tight. Because you are about to enter into the best part of Clannad's story.

And while the last part might be true for some, it was exposition that was needed to get you into the pacing and world of Clannad. I know it's not as good as After Story but it's just as necessary to give you what you needed for the second half of After Story
 
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R_thanatos

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Saki - The nationals - 10

Ah Ah Ah

This episode ..

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Crying face
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Rape face
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Dat flashback.. the flashback was actually quite good ..if anything it just proves HOW CHEATED this girl is ... what a freaking trap.
If
you go on the offensive and call a riitchi , she can counter you on the turn you call ( very dangerous ) and she can go on the offensive herself by doing naked waits
... man that's evil , that's so evil i don't know how to start .. even if you could make a good set in time , she doesn't leave you enough time to be in tempai and even if you could do it , the number of titles are so limited it's not worth it in term of points .... i really wonder what cheated power the miko has to counter this setup if our girl in the mountain doesn't have more skills in her bag.

In other words this episode was great and left me VERY HYPED for more i can't believe it this girl by herself just
sucked out 30k of points from the leading team and managed to even the playing field so that EVERYONE is in direct danger of losing and if nobody does anything it's going to be bonus hands infinite
... LOL
 
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Ice Lightning

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wonzo said:
Uhm, re-read WTK's post.
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Okay, I guess I just don't understand. The US BD look fine to me other than being brighter than the JP BD. Like I stated before, I lack the knowledge of being a video quality reviewer and my ignorance truly shows on the matter now. I am just trying to show there were other screencaps that were stated to look better by other people in a different forum (http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/showthread.php?23884-Ranma-%BD&p=233777&viewfull=1#post233777). Take those posts as you will, but sometimes reviewing more than one set of screencaps may be better in this case.
 
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nintendoman58

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PshycoNinja said:
Well hold on tight. Because you are about to enter into the best part of Clannad's story.

And while the last part might be true for some, it was exposition that was needed to get you into the pacing and world of Clannad. I know it's not as good as After Story but it's just as necessary to give you what you needed for the second half of After Story
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I consider Clannad and its After Story to have the exact same relationship with each other as GaoGaiGar has with its Final OVA.

The first series is fairly generic in its genre and is kind of forgettable as a whole.

The second series is legit amazing and it makes going through the forgettable first series completely worth it in the end and leaves you with a smile on your face.

It really stinks when shows do that because it makes them hard to recommend to people when they're actually really good in the end. Perfect examples of good things come to those who wait.
 
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R_thanatos

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sonicmj1 said:
Is this a thing that actually happens in reality, though? Even in Japan, people who are going to act as the opposite sex on stage (men in kabuki, women in takarazuka) aren't "raised" as the opposite sex. In practice it'd lead to all the huge problems that gender dysphoria causes.
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?

Sorry i wasn't aware i was talking about reality ... i was under the impression that i was talking about steinsgate .

And no i don't know about reality , i doubt it really , maybe it was something done in another time .. my point is that this theme , this setup is present in anime and is not something limited to steinsgate. Steainsgate had a LOT of thing they made up along stuff that isn't possible entirely coated in a light amount of real stuff and events... Ruka status , backstory and motives are no exception and i doubt it was intended to be a study of the effects of gender dysphoria ..... they probably just used an anime trope that was already present in anime and were done with it.

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People are still doing this stuff ?

Oh this is old .. why am i still finding new ones lol

Ps: where is my second season of arpeggio ...
 
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Crocodile

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R_thanatos said:
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Ruka being like that is a direct result of his dad influence. As you saw in the anime she want to change ( being manlier as his own words ) and okabe answer was to make him swing the "divine sword of something" 100 times or something..

Also parents raising a children as a member of the opposite sex or telling them to act as such ( for whatever reason ) is not something that should not surprise you .

It's present in some anime for a while , some examples include tokyo ravens or shugo chara or oda nobuna or dangan ronpa (4 exemples on the top of my mind and i could go on with this )

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Also it's a waste yes... as i said before you're thinking about this key point too much ... As it stands , ruka does the perfect yamato nadeshiko role yet this impression crumble once people know ruka gender , hence why people think it's a waste or a missed opportunity...it's not about the fact that it's true or not , it's just the impression people get from it.

In steins gate , when kurisu learns about ruka "real gender" ( before they sent his d-mail ) , her reaction is a simple "how is that possible" and this is the same reaction she got from everyone aside from mayuchi & okabe ( but okabe kept his reaction for himself ).

In other words
You mustn't mix "what ruka wants" , "what ruka is " , "what ruka experienced" ... All are a part of her character and it's certainly NOT a simple case of somone who isn't at ease in her gender, it's more than that.
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I'm aware of parents who raise children as a gender that isn't their sex but all cases IRL almost all boil down too:

-The child was born with both sets of genitalia and the parents have to make a hard choice
-Due to some developmental/surgical complications, the child has a malformed set of genitalia and the parents have to make a hard choice
-The parents raise the child as their born sex but the child earnestly self-identities as another gender and the parents either make amends once they realize what's going on or stick to their guns (i.e. the douchebag option)

The third situation is the only one that could apply to Ruka but I'm not clear whether or not it does. Is Ruka just a very effeminate man (with homosexual feelings for Okabe) or a heterosexual female trapped in a man's body? Either is fine but I don't think the show does a good job of clarifying this and again that's a problem. I'm not familiar with the other animes you've used as examples which only more makes me want to file this under "LOL Anime".
 
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R_thanatos

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Crocodile said:
I'm aware of parents who raise children as a gender that isn't their sex but all cases IRL almost all boil down too:

-The child was born with both sets of genitalia and the parents have to make a hard choice
-Due to some developmental/surgical complications, the child has a malformed set of genitalia and the parents have to make a hard choice
-The parents raise the child as their born sex but the child earnestly self-identities as another gender and the parents either make amends once they realize what's going on or stick to their guns (i.e. the douchebag option)

The third situation is the only one that could apply to Ruka but I'm not clear whether or not it does. Is Ruka just a very effeminate man (with homosexual feelings for Okabe) or a heterosexual female trapped in a man's body? Either is fine but I don't think the show does a good job of clarifying this and again that's a problem. I'm not familiar with the other animes you've used as examples which only more makes me want to file this under "LOL Anime".
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Ruka just a very effeminate man (with homosexual feelings for Okabe)

Again this is anime tropes , no need to read too deep in this.Ruka was only treated as a female because the past was changed but other than that it's just that.

Admiral Woofington said:
Of course. Just like Usagi Drop is an anime original.
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i fear where this conversation might end.
 
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Jintor

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Log Horizon 24

Bunkosai warfare. Exactly what I needed.

This clown noble is so easy to hate, I've only known him this one episode and I already want to see Shiroe pound this fucker into the dust. Can't wait for the finale.
 
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survivor

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That autobiographical essay manga by Moyoco Anno, Insufficient Direction about her married life with Hideaki Anno is getting a flash anime adaptation 13 episodes 3 mins each website
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I have yet to read the manga, but I'm looking forward to reading it so I probably won't be watching this until I do so.
 
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cajunator

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ZachDeKoromaru said:
Butt Attack Punisher Girl Gautaman

Proving once again that the power of butts and :SDBurton are stronger than any bogus organized religion. Also the Buddha will give you magic butt powers and your god probably doesn't exist. And Saori is so UNF, onee-sama characters are the best.
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lol I knew yall were going to watch that asap.

chickdigger802 said:
happiness charge.



animators need some cake, or some food. their hands are shaking.
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thats some quality derpface.

Theonik said:
Butt Attack Punisher Girl Gautman

This was a big surprise. Discovered it from a screenshot posted on Twitter.
It's basically butts the anime and probably one of the more hilarious things I've seen. I swear everyone on this production must have been on drugs.
Also I'd like to corroborate the reports of onee-sama UNF UNF and post examples of the :SDBurton.
Edit: Yes that is the OVA's actual name.
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Butt of course!
 
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nintendoman58

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Admiral Woofington said:
Everytime I try to watch Eureka 7 again I'm reminded about how much I hate Renton. So I stop early on in the rewatch
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Renton wasn't that bad from the five episodes I saw of E7. The guy kinda came off as just desperate to me. I've definetly seen worse than him.

This reminds me I need to pick this show back up and plow through it. But I must continue my three Gundam run so I can watch Build Fighters.

Ugh, so much anime so little time.
 
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Gazoinks

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survivor said:
Now that I'm about halfway through After Story, I gotta say, it's so much better than the original Clannad. The way drama is introduced or handled isn't that much different so far, but it's more subdued and less silly. Not to mention, the production values somehow jumped a lot in quality and the use of music became much smarter.

Basically, After Story is the type of anime I would associate with KyoAni level of quality, while original Clannad is just a mostly forgettable adaptation that any studio can make without any effort.
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Yeah, the gulf of quality between Clannad and After Story actually kind of baffles me with how huge the difference is. Especially post-graduation. And I'd say there's another jump in quality a bit later too!
 
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hipsterpants

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Eureka Seven 3

Ah, and now Renton comes crashing back down to earth. I guess it's okay since he's only 14 but it's not really hard to figure out those aren't Eureka's biological children. Also she's really weird.

And don't worry guys I already know not to watch AO
 
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FelixOrion

Poet Centuriate
Golden Time 21

IT'S HAPPENING

2D-kun to the rescue! Truly the best of bros.
You'll find someone someday 2D-kun...that's what they all tell me anyways...

...wait...WHAT

Golden Time 22

Bashing on someone for taking prescribed medication? Man, fuck your shit, dude.

...what, that's it?
They're back? It's hasn't even been half an epi-
oh you sly bastards

DRAMA LEVELS AT MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE

Space☆Dandy 9

No way...is that a Happy Machine reference?! It would make sense because this was a fucking acid trip.

Space☆Dandy 10

Best Dandy yet. Meow getting some very well need backstory and characterization. Some great comedy and some amazing feels.

Tonari no Seki-kun! 9

"So educational..."

CACTUS-KUN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tonari no Seki-kun! 10

Seki-kun's antics are spreading and inadvertently distracting more people!

Yo, this was like the best episode ever. Seki x Yokoi forever!

Tonari no Seki-kun! 11

This show constantly keeps a smile on my face. I always kinda get Calvin & Hobbs vibes from it.

CorvoSol said:
Oh oh I love E7!

THERE ARE NO SEQUELS.
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Ahhhh, such is the reaction of a damaged mind...such trauma that he shuts his mind away.
 
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Admiral Woofington

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That gif unrelated, maybe I should give Tokyo Ravens another try as a serious show and try and forget it was presented to me as a goofy one for the longest time. Info i read on how the characters change sounds interesting.
 
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survivor

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PshycoNinja said:
Well hold on tight. Because you are about to enter into the best part of Clannad's story.

And while the last part might be true for some, it was exposition that was needed to get you into the pacing and world of Clannad. I know it's not as good as After Story but it's just as necessary to give you what you needed for the second half of After Story
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I didn't mind the exposition that much, it was mostly the direction just wasn't that strong especially when compared to After Story.

Gazoinks said:
Yeah, the gulf of quality between Clannad and After Story actually kind of baffles me with how huge the difference is. Especially post-graduation. And I'd say there's another jump in quality a bit later too!
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Yeah, I wonder if this jump in quality is the source material getting better or if KyoAni just got smarter about how to adapt it.
 
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PshycoNinja

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nintendoman58 said:
I consider Clannad and its After Story to have the exact same relationship with each other as GaoGaiGar has with its Final OVA.

The first series is fairly generic in its genre and is kind of forgettable as a whole.

The second series is legit amazing and it makes going through the forgettable first series completely worth it in the end and leaves you with a smile on your face.

It really stinks when shows do that because it makes them hard to recommend to people when they're actually really good in the end. Perfect examples of good things come to those who wait.
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Unless you're me who really likes the first series a lot and After Story for me retrospectively made Clannad a lot better. Made me appreciate certain things.

It's almost like Toradora in that sense as I find the series getting better and better and the animation actually getting better as it goes too.
 
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PshycoNinja

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Gazoinks said:
Yeah, the gulf of quality between Clannad and After Story actually kind of baffles me with how huge the difference is. Especially post-graduation. And I'd say there's another jump in quality a bit later too!
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Unlike other series that blow their budgets early, Clannad started to actually use their budget 1/3 of the way through After Story.
 
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hipsterpants

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Eureka Seven 4

"What would you have done if those really were Eureka's kids?"

Well I probably would have been very disturbed because she's like 14 years old. Probably my favorite episode yet.
 
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Articalys

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Sakura Trick ep.10

Like others have said, I'm surprised we're getting more relationship continuity here than I though.

The little pre-credits bit was great.

*smiles*
 
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jman2050

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nintendoman58 said:
I consider Clannad and its After Story to have the exact same relationship with each other as GaoGaiGar has with its Final OVA.

The first series is fairly generic in its genre and is kind of forgettable as a whole.

The second series is legit amazing and it makes going through the forgettable first series completely worth it in the end and leaves you with a smile on your face.

It really stinks when shows do that because it makes them hard to recommend to people when they're actually really good in the end. Perfect examples of good things come to those who wait.
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Ultimately, it's awkward because it suffers from being a VN adaptation.

Major spoilers here

See, in the VN, you could theoretically start After Story immediately after completing Nagisa's route first (which is barely a route as all as it's mostly just setup). You can't complete AS however (it just ends after Ushio dies, gives you some stuff about going back and doing thing differently IIRC and kicks you back to the menu. You actually finish the game by replaying Nagisa's death scene with all the lights collected) until you get all the lights from various people which involves going through everyone else's routes. And I'm supposing that that's how it was designed to be told given that the VN makes every attempt to railroad you through Nagisa (boy that came out wrong) unless you're explicitly gunning for someone else.

It also doesn't help that it tries to awkwardly cram all the different routes together into one story, but that's a problem inherent in all VN adaptations that don't go the omnibus route.
 
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