Witcher 3 gameplay from YouTubers from CDPR event
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ScepticMatt
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Unique faces look great, but there are plenty of duplicate models in Witcher 2. Well not quite, they mixed around various body parts, hair and clothing.
Still a lot better than in Witcher 1, where often even major NPCs weren't unique (ethernal fire "priest", lewarden "merchant" etc.)
Example (same face in-game):
(same story with ruffian/thug/dwarfes etc.)
In any case, there is a massive increase in character quality with each Witcher game.
Yeah, that is one of the images, then there is the unicorn scene and the nvidia video:
and old one for comparison:
You just reminded me of a terrible graphical artifact from The Witcher 2, z-fighting. It was evident on many objects and characters.
Has anyone noticed any z-fighting issues in Wild Hunt?
GavinUK86
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I think they were quite clever with those examples. You wouldn't necessary notice it's the same model on first look. Some games, even The Witcher 1, don't even try to hide the copy/paste NPC's.
Yeah, I thought that character model looked great. Compared to the character models we get in most open world games it's downright impressive.
Yeah, they obvious put more detail into the main cast, but in no way is that model "terrible".
jim2point0
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The major difference is....Not best for comparison, but below should be latest-ish
version of her.
Top: good lighting
Bottom: bad lighting
EDIT: Her hair is less detailed \ less curly now as well.
Primethius
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Denton
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She looks completely different now. And much more faithful to the books (and my imagination). Yen on that picture looks like some young almost girlish model completely unlike Yennefer.
See my post.Also her hair style has changed. It is more wavy and less curly. It is possibly due to hairworks, which I don't think handles curly hair.
Maybe because of complaints too.
I think there is some small differences in her face [makeup, eyebrows, maybe shape of eyes...], but clear difference is hairstyle and color. I personally like raven haired version better.
Jay Shadow
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Major difference is
Top: Looks like random brunette cosplaying as Yennifer
Bottom: Looks like Yennifer
Anton Sugar
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Yeah, that is one of the images, then there is the unicorn scene and the nvidia video:
The one thing I count on CDPR for is amazing clothes. Seriously, they keep nailing that shit.
Hell, clothes in this game have only gotten better with each screenshot. Seriously, go look at some of the first trailers for the games and you can clearly see that they've greatly improved the textures and designs for the clothes. No downgrade there.
EDIT: Except for the Wild Hunt, dammit.
Hell, clothes in this game have only gotten better with each screenshot. Seriously, go look at some of the first trailers for the games and you can clearly see that they've greatly improved the textures and designs for the clothes. No downgrade there.
EDIT: Except for the Wild Hunt, dammit.
ScepticMatt
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yennefer had that "new" hairstyle for many months now. In fact we can see the new style two weeks after they showed the "old" one.
E.g. here from "elder blood" trailer, Jul 16 2014.
E.g. here from "elder blood" trailer, Jul 16 2014.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Inconsistent? He said they looked distinct. And your terrible example, whats so terrible about it? Ive seen people with similar faces in real life. He is not a looker, nor has a cinematic face, but thats becuase he doesnt have too. He looks like a tear yed liar, and thats exactly what he is in the quest.
I always thought his hair looked too brown on this shot. Glad she has amber black hair now, as described in the books.
viveks86
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Anton Sugar
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Do we know if these screenshots have that Nvidia hair FX turned on? Gopher mentioned it in one of his vids and said it wasn't turned on for the footage he recorded, but he saw it and it looks fantastic. Said it mostly affects wildlife/monsters, but it did appear to improve the quality of Geralt's hair, from what he could tell.
The problem is that the performance hit is significant.
Unique faces look great, but there are plenty of duplicate models in Witcher 2. Well not quite, they mixed around various body parts, hair and clothing.
Still a lot better than in Witcher 1, where often even major NPCs weren't unique (ethernal fire "priest", lewarden "merchant" etc.)
Example (same face in-game):
(same story with ruffian/thug/dwarfes etc.)
In any case, there is a massive increase in character quality with each Witcher game.
I don't think that those are the "same" faces.. the type of head maybe, but eyes, noses, mouths, cheeks, makeup, etc. are all different.. but I can't remember a single RPG where the faces looked so good, realistic, and unique as in TW2.. not even in DAI.. but TW3 as it seems is stepping it a few good levels up.. even that guy from Crago mission looks almost as good as the major characters which we have seen so far : unique face - check.. great details - check.. unique clothing - check.. and to thing, that the game has 90 main and around 2 000 side characters this quality, is fucking insane.. this is for me the TOP feature where I'm absolutely speechless
And Yennefer looks now way, way better than before.. she looks like she is described in the books..
Dictator93
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I doubt it.
ScepticMatt
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They are the same faces, they even have the same hair model. But the makeup and the amount of freckles is different, yes.
They look different because the lighting, camera angle and perspective compression is different.
I've seen several sidequest NPCs in videos that looks almost exactly like him. Something about the model seems "off" compared to the other ones, kinda dead looking. It's a minor, minor complaint and a poor choice of words on my part.
Not this shit again
viveks86
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Hmmm… would like to see image comparisons. I got the exact opposite impression. They felt like entirely distinct models. I have issues with the facial animation (which are understandably basic), but that's besides the point.
Denton
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I agree with Misho and disagree with you, they look like they have different mouth shapes etc.
Summer Haze
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Does this game use physically based rendering at all?
I can show you all characters we have seen in all trailers, gameplay videos, etc. and you wouldn't see any other character which looks like him.. similar maybe, but not a clone, not a brother, no just hair changed or clothers, basically everything changed..
Have we seen latest iteration on King of the Wild Hunt [I hope I got that right as Witcher lore nub]? I know they have shows us some "Wild Hunt foot soldiers".
Yeah, no doubt. The characters models have improved so much, there is way more detail and animation -- Geralts necklace is glued to his chest in the old stuff. In all those early gifs people post Geralt is always looking away from the camera.. itd be less impresive if this was staring back at us:
GavinUK86
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That one below is pretty spoilerish isn't it? I'm out.
It may have just been the facial structure and animation that seemed familiar. I can't remember the video I saw with another, similar NPC. I think it was in the last round of previews. I edited my original post. Didn't mean to piss anyone off. I was posting in bed before fully awake and I didn't phrase it well at all LOL
ScepticMatt
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This whole thread is one spoiler, if you didn't want see anything bad why to come here?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Not really. Geralt and Yennefer were lovers. TW2 establishes this if you're unfamiliar with the books.
Anton Sugar
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I've no doubt that there is some level of model reuse in the game--given the scope, it seems a little crazy not to.
However, I still don't think that makes the model terrible in any way. The model itself is great, but may feel "generic" simply because the game made it so through reuse.
I was simply trying to point out that the side NPCs didn't seem all that distinct to me and think it was more an issue with eyes/animation that bothered me. It's a very minor complaint and one that's more than completely understandable given the scope. I was still half asleep when I posted and didn't get my point across at all.
I think this is what they are suppose to look like:
Havent seen them in any recent footage since Elder Blood and the glitched snow shader:
Eh? That could be a flashback for all we know. We know Geralt and Yennefer had a relationship in the books, and that information was relayed in Witcher 2, also.
IGN First released article titled "ENDING THE WITCHER 3 ‘WITH A BANG’ - IGN FIRST" today.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/29/ending-the-witcher-3-with-a-bang-ign-first
Yeah I have seen that concept art for Wild Hunt and that glitched trailer bits. I hope we get to see properly rendering in-game models before release, just because.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/29/ending-the-witcher-3-with-a-bang-ign-first
Yeah I have seen that concept art for Wild Hunt and that glitched trailer bits. I hope we get to see properly rendering in-game models before release, just because.
Denton
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They didn't speak about that specific elven woman. I know how they create characters, I have seen these diaries back then. But this specific character looks different, it is not the same head on all three, it is modified. Unless I am blind.
What the fuck are we even arguing anyway.
Anton Sugar
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That's...interesting. How will these be handled? I mean, theoretically, people will have completed the main game by the time the DLC rolls around.
Yeah, no doubt. The characters models have improved so much, there is way more detail and animation -- Geralts necklace is glued to his chest in the old stuff. In all those early gifs people post Geralt is always looking away from the camera.. itd be less impresive if this was staring back at us:
Yikes. Old renderer spotted as well.
Possibly like a lot of games. After you beat it you get transported back to before the last 'mission.'
Well, they've revealed that you will be able to free roam after the credits. I'm wondering if it really just loads a save before the final mission so you can continue playing.
Anyone else think the story of the Witcher kind of sucks?
I love the witcher in general, love the realistic (well, in some fashion), gritty, medieval world. I actually liked the combat (for the most part), and I love the great RPG elements.
But, that story... I mean it's like something out of daytime soap opera, isn't it? People having amnesia left and right, women drama...
Am I alone in thinking this?
I was thinking about picking up the books actually to flesh out the story a bit more, but I'm not sure if it's any better there.
I love the witcher in general, love the realistic (well, in some fashion), gritty, medieval world. I actually liked the combat (for the most part), and I love the great RPG elements.
But, that story... I mean it's like something out of daytime soap opera, isn't it? People having amnesia left and right, women drama...
Am I alone in thinking this?
I was thinking about picking up the books actually to flesh out the story a bit more, but I'm not sure if it's any better there.
Ok ok, but still they don't look like clones... where in other games they at best change the clothes, or just the color and that's it.. all three girls look distinct enough, that I never said to myself playing through TW2 that :"hmm, I see clones" or "I saw him/her somewhere before".
What do you mean? Witcher 1 or Witcher 1 & 2?... anyhow, I love them.. I know that the English translation in the first one wasn't great, but other language variations were great, so no problem there in my case.. TW2 has in my opinion one of the best stories ever when it comes to videogames - complex, mature, interesting from start to finish, political side was well made, etc..
SpacePirate Ridley
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You would be right if that NPC appear really similar in other quests though. Trying not to watch so many videos as to not ruin my experience, si I still have to encounter that.
His Majesty
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I certainly hope so. TW1 and TW2 both had excellent stories.