GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
witcher 3 zero combat or sandbox Im sorry its all true
think itl be better?
think itl be better?
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witcher 4 must have better combat and sandbox
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
wart open world with no sandbox?? ahahaa
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
and no woke crud to theeeeenn it could be a 10
March Climber
Member
I agree. As Huber would say from Easy Allies: "I need to feel the kill"
I wonder if they will use what they've learned from Cyberpunk on the combat of this game.
I wonder if they will use what they've learned from Cyberpunk on the combat of this game.
Sebastian1295
Member
I'm much more interested in a cyberpunk sequel than witcher 4 because i couldn't get into witcher 3 at all. I tried to give it a chance but the combat was clunky and not fun in the least and i'm starting to realize that open world games have become repetitive too me personally. There's too many things to do, too many markers and checklists of things u should do, and they're just too damn big anymore. I prefer a condensed world that isn't massive to the point of frustration and i prefer a game that doesn't have 9000000000 side quests or activities to do. Cyberpunks world felt big but not overwhelming and i enjoyed it because of that. I'm sure the witcher 4 will be a masterpiece but i have to be in the mood for a massive open world game and right now i'm just not.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
Denied, you get hag Ciri talking about sexism in between scissor sessions and will like it
Pegasus Actual
Member
Just copy the wingsuit from Just Cause 3, boom sandbox fixed.
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Sebastian1295
Member
Cyberpunk combat was awesome. I had a blade build and it was an absolute blast flying around at super speed and just dicing people up. The sense of movement and freedom is what made cyberpunks combat a breath of fresh air plus the finishers looked incredible at that speed.
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sharp weiner
Member
I would be surprised if either is different from 3.
balls of snow
Member
Ahh the things I dont care about in a witcher game.
So no.
So no.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
Pardon me but what is a sandbox in this context?
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Hope it'll be better for the sandbox at least. This one of the major reasons why I could constantly replay Fallout and Elder Scroll games because of the more fun open world with random unscripted encounters but can't find myself replaying Witcher 3 more than twice in my life.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
It'll get worse
brace your ace
brace your ace
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WhamBamThankYouMaam
Member
I disliked witcher combat to the extent that I haven’t been able to get into any of the games. Here’s to hoping!
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Must it? If think the sales/reviews/awards of 3 makes me think more of the same is a safe bet.
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crazyriddler
Member
Sandbox? No thanks, if I want to fool around there are thousands of games for that. I prefer a more "limited" but polished experience.
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
vaibhavpisal
Member
Combat will likely be improved.
But looking at Cyberpunk, I think they are going in opposite direction of sandbox experience.
But looking at Cyberpunk, I think they are going in opposite direction of sandbox experience.
Sentenza
Member
After Cyberpunk, my prediction is:
Watch them repeat every single design mistake they made with The Witcher 3 (stiff controls, weak combat system, bad and bloated itemization, even more bloated progression curve with a lot of unnecessary extra stats, immersion-breaking "leveled" enemies, etc) and then some.
Watch them repeat every single design mistake they made with The Witcher 3 (stiff controls, weak combat system, bad and bloated itemization, even more bloated progression curve with a lot of unnecessary extra stats, immersion-breaking "leveled" enemies, etc) and then some.
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Laptop1991
Member
I did have to get used to the combat for quite a while until i enjoyed the game, it could definitely be improved, once i did, the game was great.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
thank you my freinds i am the spirit of gaming
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Witcher 3 is sandbox.
Zacfoldor
Member
The problem with the combat isn't that there isn't depth.
It's that the meta is fast attack spam and you can get thru the whole game spamming it basically, with a roll or spell mixed in. The meta is super shallow. Increase the base difficulty of the game so it can't be spammed thru and people have to use your witcher potions and stuff to win, and it will be a lot better.
As someone who got thru the whole game just spamming fast attack, to me the combat was beyond shallow, it was the worst combat in any game this big I've ever played. It was worse than Witcher 2 because Witcher 2 at least started kind hard.
I don't think CDPR really understand player behavior in videogames. I think they do understand what makes combat interesting, but they don't really understand that leaving a meta of a single button tap in the game prevents people from ever exploring more complex options. As an example, combat in Hogwarts was actually less complex than Witcher 3 but way, way more fun and varied, allowing it to be enjoyable for much longer. If only combat was as much fun as Gwent. It was such a great game in so many ways, but basic combat on normal difficulty mode with no mods was not one of them.
...and on another note I'm a huge sandbox fan, always was, so I wouldn't be mad if there were a few more mini-golf style setpieces for me to climb on and solve.
It's that the meta is fast attack spam and you can get thru the whole game spamming it basically, with a roll or spell mixed in. The meta is super shallow. Increase the base difficulty of the game so it can't be spammed thru and people have to use your witcher potions and stuff to win, and it will be a lot better.
As someone who got thru the whole game just spamming fast attack, to me the combat was beyond shallow, it was the worst combat in any game this big I've ever played. It was worse than Witcher 2 because Witcher 2 at least started kind hard.
I don't think CDPR really understand player behavior in videogames. I think they do understand what makes combat interesting, but they don't really understand that leaving a meta of a single button tap in the game prevents people from ever exploring more complex options. As an example, combat in Hogwarts was actually less complex than Witcher 3 but way, way more fun and varied, allowing it to be enjoyable for much longer. If only combat was as much fun as Gwent. It was such a great game in so many ways, but basic combat on normal difficulty mode with no mods was not one of them.
...and on another note I'm a huge sandbox fan, always was, so I wouldn't be mad if there were a few more mini-golf style setpieces for me to climb on and solve.
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
no my freind
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
crud phisics hit box annnnnnd moving around
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Post what a sandbox game is please.
apocaliptic
Member
Not Sandbox.
apocaliptic
Member
You first post how the Witcher 3 is a sandbox game
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I asked the question
zkorejo
Member
Devs did say they will focus on better combat.. in one of the interviews they compared how they leveled up by working on cdpr as that was their deepest combat system and helped them learn, which they will apply to tw4.
Ofcourse it's not a shooter and a tps action adventure, but I'm expecting better gameplay combat system here.
Ofcourse it's not a shooter and a tps action adventure, but I'm expecting better gameplay combat system here.
bender
What time is it?
Dirk Benedict
Member
Why you gotta do dat?Fixed.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
I don't care much for the combat and if its still the same, I'd still buy it, but I feel the sandbox concept should be solid.
PatientGamer
Member
It's the one reason why I can't get into the 3rd game. Combat is really bad compared to almost everything else in its peer group.
Then they cocked up the launch of CP77 so badly too, so I dunno if they'll do it right first time with TW4.
Then they cocked up the launch of CP77 so badly too, so I dunno if they'll do it right first time with TW4.
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