Spirit of Jazz
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The matchmaking's so god awful that you're often waiting 3-5 minutes for a match and then you're put with somebody who lags hard. DoA4's netcode was amazing when it worked, it doesn't mean it had great netcode.
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With Season 3, Killer Instinct has grown into the "people's champ" of fighting games
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The matchmaking's so god awful that you're often waiting 3-5 minutes for a match and then you're put with somebody who lags hard. DoA4's netcode was amazing when it worked, it doesn't mean it had great netcode.
Smooth Operator
Member
He's right tho'. The main issue with SFV is the matchmaking, not the netcode. I played a lot against friends, and it's like i'm playing offline, just like KI.
Danis Saur
Member
Going to start, again, today and see if I enjoy the game as much as others.
Either way, I'll train with a character and see where that goes.
Either way, I'll train with a character and see where that goes.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
It has 2 guest fighters. 2. With only one more confirmed. So it will have 3. At most. MK has like at least 4 or 5 currently. Hell, even the SoulCalibur series has had at least 5 over the journey.
Technically even Street Fighter has had more over its franchises history. KI has/had had 4. Sabrewulf, Rash, Arbiter and RAAM.
Zombegoast
Member
That can be said with any video game that has online multiplayer .The game loves to put me against people from South America and the Caribbeans and sometimes Canada(Living in Central Florida). SFV doesn't base on finding games by ping and the game has the biggest input lag of any fighting game on PC when trying to fight people online.
deadscreensky
Member
The netcode has massive problems too. It doesn't properly handle synchronization. If you're not seeing any problems it's likely you're the player with the lesser connection, which gives you an advantage in SF5.
The netcode has a strong foundation, I'm hoping they can eventually get it working properly.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
If I had no clue how to play any fighter, I'd want to watch the one with explosions, smoking flashing trails of motion, a billion particles, and a Raptor fighting a Mayan woman after it took down a werewolf.
Just say'n.
Sounds good on paper, but the viewer counts don't shake out that way.
No lies detected. Revelator is going to be good.
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Deleted member 47027
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Such a great game. Here's to its continued success. Game is fun as hell to play and they have some very smart people working for them. I give it an A+!
The Albatross
Member
Pretty much sold me on it op, especially when you mentioned SP content and the training.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Pretty high praise for a game nobody is interested in for high level play. They try to do their own events but I don't think anybody is watching.
It's a good reboot of the franchise but anyone I know who likes fighting games isn't interested in it. It's a fine casual fighter but gameplay wise its nowhere near mk, guilty gear, tekken, or street fighter.
It must sell well enough to keep getting support though. With kof and tekken 7 on the horizon I wonder how much room there is for it though.
Their stages look great but the character models are so ugly.
I tried to download the pc version but it just crashes while checking what I own (bought season 1 and 2 on xb1 before I sold it) so I deleted it.
Won't ever touch the God tier footsie game street fighter 5 has going. Playing that game feels so good in the neutral game.
It's a good reboot of the franchise but anyone I know who likes fighting games isn't interested in it. It's a fine casual fighter but gameplay wise its nowhere near mk, guilty gear, tekken, or street fighter.
It must sell well enough to keep getting support though. With kof and tekken 7 on the horizon I wonder how much room there is for it though.
Their stages look great but the character models are so ugly.
I tried to download the pc version but it just crashes while checking what I own (bought season 1 and 2 on xb1 before I sold it) so I deleted it.
Won't ever touch the God tier footsie game street fighter 5 has going. Playing that game feels so good in the neutral game.
7DollarHagane
Banned
It's become really embarrassing how far people will stretch to find an excuse to poke at sf5.
At this point just hang in their and wait to see if the "Content" you want gets added or enjoy an expertly made and balanced fighting game that's focused on play vs other people rather than the cpu. The shit posting that the game gets feels disingenuous at this point and only because people feel personally burned that the game chose to prioritize online play.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Prioritized online play that worked pretty bad first week, didn't have lobbies until a month after release and still doesn't really punish quitters in ranked matches. Perhaps they should have prioritized it more.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Not really. It seems to have bombed at retail, and is only being kept alive because it plays so well and the FGC is really galvanizing around it. Ironically, Capcom rushing the game out in time for the start of Capcom Pro Tour has been both a blessing and a curse.
At some point I really need to give into KI. Been meaning to for well over a year but never quite found the right time. Although I commend what MSFT has managed to do with it. When they initially announced the business model, I was hyper skeptical. Happy to eat crow though.
I can wait!
7DollarHagane
Banned
This is the kind of exaggeration that I'm talking about. The game had one on one lobbies at launch. The ones it has now are really good.
And yes there were server issues at launch but once the servers stabilized I don't think people were having many issues when playing 4-5 bar connections. 3 bar and less had rollback but that's the nature of online play.
Rage quitting is a bigger issue but it's just a reason to quit caring about rank and spend more time in the lobby battles which are faster and you can set first to 2,3,5, etc. Once it gets fixed I'll probably go back to ranked.
I create a battle lobby and Ive usually got a player in within a minute.
When Gaf has it out for a game, they straight savage.
And no, OP, people champ goes to GG Xrd.
KI is better than it was back in the SNES/N64 era, but that's not saying much. The characters are tacky and the music is lame. I understand the appeal though. The casuals love this game.
Yeah! This man done told all Yu!
Seriously though we can see right thru you like cellophane
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Cmon son you know I meant actual lobbies. A 1v1 room is not a lobby. It is some straight up nonsense in a fighting game in 2016.
What exactly do you call a game that you can download and play for free?
fallingdove
Member
Pff... Killer Instinct was far from free. But I am glad that the MS PR magic has worked so wonderfully on you.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Wtf is this bullshit?
Still not too gunho about the whole f2p aspect, but it got me to play.
The game is far better than I expected it to be. The online uses GGPO and thus has better online than any modern released fighting game but Skullgirls. The game is very balanced as no fight goes beyond 7-3 despite having a fair share of characters. It is also feels very unique as the way one implements and uses combos is significantly different from the Marvel or anime type fighting games.
Possibly the second best fighting game to come out of the Fighting Game Renaissance (Skullgirls is #1). It took Rare thirteen years before they made a legitimately great game for Microsoft, but here we are.
EDIT - Rare technically didn't even make it.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen in this thread.
Just like a Marvel game, it certainly feels like that when you play it, but there is more than meets the eye with it.
The game is far better than I expected it to be. The online uses GGPO and thus has better online than any modern released fighting game but Skullgirls. The game is very balanced as no fight goes beyond 7-3 despite having a fair share of characters. It is also feels very unique as the way one implements and uses combos is significantly different from the Marvel or anime type fighting games.
Possibly the second best fighting game to come out of the Fighting Game Renaissance (Skullgirls is #1). It took Rare thirteen years before they made a legitimately great game for Microsoft, but here we are.
EDIT - Rare technically didn't even make it.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen in this thread.
Just like a Marvel game, it certainly feels like that when you play it, but there is more than meets the eye with it.
I'm with you on Xrd being a great game that also deserves more attention, but you lost me when you shit on KI's masterful soundtrack.
Yeah I really don't like the revisionist history have with KI either. Launch was abysmal and had issues -- bugs, online desync etc. season 1 sucked in the beginning.
But sequential releases made that game into an excellent fighting game.
Just like Skullgirls.
Just like KOFXII.
Just like Calamity Trigger.
so this isn't really anything new.
SFV still sucks though, WOAT SF game hands down going back to my KOF98 goons idc idc
I'm joking SFV is okay
It is free. Every mode, every unlock was completely free. You just had to buy the characters. That's the model of KI. It's not the model's fault if YOU don't like the rotating character.
KI has the best fighting game music this gen second only to Chronophantasma, so I don't know what to tell you homie
shadow lab isn't available in the free version.
what's your definition of popular
Of all the major competitive genres they are more niche than the big boys like MOBAs and first-person shooters, but they are still popular on the whole and their tournaments are some of the best to watch in my opinion.
They also have a tremendous legacy since they are essentially the original eSport with their arcade roots.
That was my intention! I love this game and want more people to play it. It's more of an endorsement than an advertisement, really.
The genre has never reached its heights of the mid-90s, but is currently more popular than it was during any other time period that followed it. Street Fighter V may have bombed but pretty much every other game is meeting expectations. The genre is in a far better state than it was a decade ago and seems to be that it will stay healthy with a variety of dedicated mid-sized developers and independent developers leading the way for the genre. Even if Capcom outright leaves the genre again the genre will stay strong.
What's interesting is that there seem to be as many quality developers on the Western front popping up as there is in the East. Even Brazil seems to be making a very good looking fighting game.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
So having access to every single mode with a rotating character for free isn't free?
Um...ooook?
Holy shit... the nerve you must have to make these two posts back to back.
Seriously lol
Salty Hippo
Member
The FGC snobs took over this thread quicker than I expected. "Soundtrack is lame", fucking LOL.
Probably played the game once
Mmmyes, I do declare the casuals are quite taken with this garish and unrefined piece of "art". Mmm ha ha ha ha ha! *sips tea*
Get the fuck OUTTA here with that shit. The music is some of the best goddamn fightan' game music that has ever been composed, SON. And that's fuckin REAL TALK, not up for debate.
The characters are a direct nod to the 90's heyday of fighters. You know, when the whole genre ruled the roost? Kudos to them for having the balls to make a game with a fuckin werewolf, a cybernetic raptor, a fuckin BATTLETOAD, etc. I mean how many fighting games with karate guys do we need? How many anime fighters do we have now? Like a million? I LOVE fighting games, even the trashy anime ones that are just ridiculous fan-service but let's not pretend KI isn't leagues better than 95% of them. Hisako might be a ripoff of the Grudge but dammit if she isn't one of the more inspired fighting game characters to come out in a long damn while. And Sadira is just straight up hotness all around. Amazing hips aside, her moveset is poetry in motion. Most of the KI roster is just straight up kick ass.
KI had a rough start, for sure. It launched with 6 characters. SIX. CHARACTERS. That's awful. BUT, let us be very clear about where it is now. The roster is way bigger now, there are numerous stages, each with different phases and secrets, the soundtrack is boss as hell, and the online is tight. The training mode is one of the best around, I mean who does it better aside from maybe Skullgirls? Anyone?
Give credit where its due, man. KI is back in a big fuckin way. Its only going to get more recognition as season 3 rolls on.
.la1n
Member
Mortal Kombat XL is much closer to the people's champ after they fixed the net code issue. It's damn near flawless in single player and multiplayer offerings. Killer Instinct absolutely deserves some praise for offering a nearly equal package and one that didn't cost $59.99 from the get go.
Ultimately I don't understand why these topics have to boil down to which fighting game "wins." It's a niche genre that we are fortunate to have as many options available to us as we do right now. Trashing other fighting games because they aren't your favorite isn't doing the already small community any favors. It also turns off potential players who are influenced by people constantly beating the "x game sucks" drum who have probably never touched it.
Ultimately I don't understand why these topics have to boil down to which fighting game "wins." It's a niche genre that we are fortunate to have as many options available to us as we do right now. Trashing other fighting games because they aren't your favorite isn't doing the already small community any favors. It also turns off potential players who are influenced by people constantly beating the "x game sucks" drum who have probably never touched it.
JayWood2010
Member
haha xD Sometimes you just need to ignore people
fallingdove
Member
Sure that's free. But you are being intellectually dishonest by trying to equate that pittance of a demo to what SFV offered @ $60.
I apologize though, please get back to your circle jerk.
While the music good and certainly fits the game, referring the soundtrack as a "masterpiece" is a bit of a stretch.
The game's competitive community is actually reasonably large. It is also one of the fastest growing competitive scenes out there along with Mortal Kombat and Skullgirls.
As I've said before, these American made fighting games are really growing into their own.
The game's competitive community is actually reasonably large. It is also one of the fastest growing competitive scenes out there along with Mortal Kombat and Skullgirls.
As I've said before, these American made fighting games are really growing into their own.
JayWood2010
Member
Theyre popular, but not Dota popular. Though you can say that about pretty much everything. EVO tends to get 100k+ live viewers which is pretty good. Again, not Dota good, but its good.
Hey guys.. I haven't quite been under a rock, I have tons of other comments and questions and watched a bunch of gameplay videos and character reveals..
..but as a PS4/PC owner who for some reason still has not bought it for PC after being excited it was coming.. i have one single question.
If KI2 or KI2 Gold (N64) was a 10 on a 1-10 scale, use the weighted magazine 6-10 scale if you want...
how would KI3 rank? 8 or 9? 10 meaning same? or some fake number like 10+ or 11?
..but as a PS4/PC owner who for some reason still has not bought it for PC after being excited it was coming.. i have one single question.
If KI2 or KI2 Gold (N64) was a 10 on a 1-10 scale, use the weighted magazine 6-10 scale if you want...
how would KI3 rank? 8 or 9? 10 meaning same? or some fake number like 10+ or 11?