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[IbizaPocholo]

Microsoft's new Xbox is actually the next step in an ambitious master plan to shake up the video game industry, and end the rivalry with PlayStation forever

With the next Xbox, Microsoft is intentionally moving away from the traditional head-to-head console wars with Sony's PlayStation.

www.businessinsider.com

Here's how Microsoft plans to do it:

1. Microsoft doesn't mind if you don't buy its new Xbox console, as long as you buy the game.


Do you want to play games on an Xbox? A PC? Your phone? Microsoft wants to reach you there — ideally across all three.

To that end, Xbox has major initiatives across all three platforms: a new game console (Xbox Series X), a cloud gaming service (Project xCloud), and a Netflix-like gaming service (Game Pass).

2. The new Xbox is just the latest box, not a whole new ecosystem.

The next Xbox console will play Xbox One games. It will also play all the original Xbox and Xbox 360 games that already work on the Xbox One. It will also work with all the current Xbox One accessories, from gamepads to fight sticks.

3. Going forward, it's just "Xbox."

The Xbox Series X is part of the fourth generation of Xbox consoles from Microsoft, following the original Xbox, the Xbox 360, and the Xbox One generations. It's a real murderer's row of bizarre names.

The Series X, however, isn't a whole new line of Xbox consoles — it's just the name of the latest in the Xbox console brand.


4. With Game Pass, Microsoft could win the race to create the first major "Netflix of gaming" service.

For a monthly fee, Netflix offers subscribers an instant library of content. Some of that content is produced by Netflix, and some isn't. You don't need to download any of the content — it just streams to your device.

Thus far, no company has had success with a comparable service for gaming. There are a few services that offer streamed video games, like Google Stadia and PlayStation Now, but neither has really taken off.

Check the link for more.

 

[Potato Chip PRO]

What a mess does this look from far away tbh

 

[DynamiteCop!]

What a mess does this look from far away tbh

It seems pretty simple when you're not trying to be disingenuous on an internet forum to make things which aren't appear convoluted and confusing.

 

[JustP_Gaming]

It seems pretty simple when you're not trying to be disingenuous on an internet forum to make things which aren't appear convoluted and confusing.

As I always say there are those that want to create a narrative that doesn't exist. Trying to create confusion over nothing all because its not there favorite corporations box or business model. Strange indeed.

 

[Codes 208]

What a mess does this look from far away tbh

Well, i mean gamepass is certainly a sign of this future of success as plausible.

its still better than stadia’s dumpster fire of a “netflix of gaming” decision

 

[kyoji]

if they dont care if u buy the console and if this was there galaxy brain strategy then why not be a software/services publisher to begin with? how about making some games that are versatile and appeal to multiple markets before trying to root kit all devices.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Why would this end console wars once and for all? This just sounds like putting their games on more platforms.

 

[Neofire]

I step towards taking peoples ownership of games away is what it sounds like. "Netflix of games"

 

[Potato Chip PRO]

Well, i mean gamepass is certainly a sign of this future of success as plausible.

its still better than stadia’s dumpster fire of a “netflix of gaming” decision

Ohh yes Gamepass has alot of potential... Just don't see how this will end the console war.

 

[Codes 208]

Ohh yes Gamepass has alot of potential... Just don't see how this will end the console war.

It wont. thats just the usual dumb pr.

everyone has that sEcRet SauCE to end wars

 

[Blond]

Remember years ago Microsoft supposedly had a 3 console plan to take over the living room? How'd that pan out, eh?

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Remember years ago Microsoft supposedly had a 3 console plan to take over the living room? How'd that pan out, eh?

Well they've sure taken over a lot of peoples brains so that's something.

 

[gifgaf]

Well they've sure taken over a lot of peoples brains so that's something.

You are living proof of that.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

You are living proof of that.

Yeah but I actually care about and use the product so it's not a problem, other people... Well yeah...

 

[Hobbygaming]

Microsoft's new Xbox is actually the next step in an ambitious master plan to shake up the video game industry, and end the rivalry with PlayStation forever

With the next Xbox, Microsoft is intentionally moving away from the traditional head-to-head console wars with Sony's PlayStation.

www.businessinsider.com

Here's how Microsoft plans to do it:

1. Microsoft doesn't mind if you don't buy its new Xbox console, as long as you buy the game.


Do you want to play games on an Xbox? A PC? Your phone? Microsoft wants to reach you there — ideally across all three.

To that end, Xbox has major initiatives across all three platforms: a new game console (Xbox Series X), a cloud gaming service (Project xCloud), and a Netflix-like gaming service (Game Pass).

2. The new Xbox is just the latest box, not a whole new ecosystem.

The next Xbox console will play Xbox One games. It will also play all the original Xbox and Xbox 360 games that already work on the Xbox One. It will also work with all the current Xbox One accessories, from gamepads to fight sticks.

3. Going forward, it's just "Xbox."

The Xbox Series X is part of the fourth generation of Xbox consoles from Microsoft, following the original Xbox, the Xbox 360, and the Xbox One generations. It's a real murderer's row of bizarre names.

The Series X, however, isn't a whole new line of Xbox consoles — it's just the name of the latest in the Xbox console brand.


4. With Game Pass, Microsoft could win the race to create the first major "Netflix of gaming" service.

For a monthly fee, Netflix offers subscribers an instant library of content. Some of that content is produced by Netflix, and some isn't. You don't need to download any of the content — it just streams to your device.

Thus far, no company has had success with a comparable service for gaming. There are a few services that offer streamed video games, like Google Stadia and PlayStation Now, but neither has really taken off.

Check the link for more.

Doesn't most of these things already exist

 

[Texas Pride]

First it was we don't care if you buy an Xbox as long as you buy the games. Then it was we don't care if you buy the Xbox or the games as long as you subscribe to Gamespass. They're running out of ways to shift the narrative which is the demand for their gaming products isn't where they want it to be and so they'll say anything to keep trying to sell their future hardware and services.

 

[Gavon West]

First it was we don't care if you buy an Xbox as long as you buy the games. Then it was we don't care if you buy the Xbox or the games as long as you subscribe to Gamespass. They're running out of ways to shift the narrative which is the demand for their gaming products isn't where they want it to be and so they'll say anything to keep trying to sell their future hardware and services.

Got damn bruh!!! What kinda of mental gymnastic Shaolin Kung Fu, brain dead ass technique did you use to come up with that shit????

 

[Kagey K]

Who cares? Play the games you like on the console you like. We aren’t here to make these companies profitable, we are here to get value for our dollar.

They don’t deserve anything from us and should be doing what they can to make us want to spend our money on them, instead of elsewhere.

 

[Texas Pride]

Got damn bruh!!! What kinda of mental gymnastic Shaolin Kung Fu, brain dead ass technique did you use to come up with that shit????

Guess you live in a different reality than I do. I definitely struck a nerve because your retort didn't refute my opinion. If anything the blind defense reinforced it.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Is this the big picture from the industry; kill living room consoles and move to PC/subscription services, so that the 100% digital future can begin?

If our choices are being moved towards streaming and digital, then it's no surprise that Gamestop and Game are on their arse again.

I don't recognise Microsoft anymore tbh, they've come so far away from their original plans with the 360 that it's confusing

 

[Kagey K]

Guess you live in a different reality than I do. I definitely struck a nerve because your retort didn't refute my opinion. If anything the blind defense reinforced it.

Nah I think it’s more like it’s hard to refute ignorance and rarely worth the time. I know I’m personally done with it, and it seems like most people are as well.

Your time would probably be better served if you went into threads about the things you do like instead of going and shitting up other threads because you don’t like them.

Just a thought.

 

[Zog]

Why would this end console wars once and for all? This just sounds like putting their games on more platforms.

This is just Microsoft exiting the console war.

 

[Texas Pride]

Nah I think it’s more like it’s hard to refute ignorance and rarely worth the time. I know I’m personally done with it, and it seems like most people are as well.

Your time would probably be better served if you went into threads about the things you do like instead of going and shitting up other threads because you don’t like them.

Just a thought.

Maybe you should apply to be a mod so you do it from the front seat instead of from the back? You don't know me well enough to tell me what and where the fuck I should post and vice versa. The ignorance is people like you defending a plastic box from a soulless company. What fucking audacity lol.

 

[Kagey K]

I’ve seen enough of your posts to know what I’m talking about, but I have nothing further to say on the matter.

 

[Texas Pride]

I’ve seen enough of your posts to know what I’m talking about, but I have nothing further to say on the matter.

Yeah but I wonder if you practice what you preach? Because if you're telling others to post in only topics they like or agree with you'd never be a hypocrite right? Don't have to dig through post history to figure it either. Grow the fuck up. Chickenshit driveby post to confirm it.

 

[Kagey K]

Deleted.

Not Worth it.

 

[Chiggs]

Microsoft creating its own set of custom excuses for when PS5 thrashes it.

Of course, if that doesn’t happen, look for Microsoft to tout the same metrics that it used to tout in its Xbox 360 heyday. Stupid, trivial metrics like # of consoles and games sold.

 

[Gavon West]

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[Texas Pride]

Might be in your interest to practice what you preach.

Towards that end do I need to show you a picture of my xbox? You want my gamertag too so you can check it's active? I mean since I AM a customer I should have a voice right? See you opened your fucking mouth without thought. You were so quick to be snarky.

 

[Kagey K]

Towards that end do I need to show you a picture of my xbox? You want my gamertag too so you can check it's active? I mean since I AM a customer I should have a voice right? See you opened your fucking mouth without thought. You were so quick to be snarky.

I don’t give a shit what you do. TBH, and I already gave you more attention then your poor attitude deserves.

 

[Texas Pride]

I don’t give a shit what you do. TBH, and I already gave you more attention then your poor attitude deserves.

No fuck you. You all but accused me of being a fanboy of the other team. Now you look like an idiot. The one shitting up threads is you. Learn to separate being a fanboy over a customer like normal well adjusted adults normally do. You're a joke.

 

[Gavon West]

Guess you live in a different reality than I do. I definitely struck a nerve because your retort didn't refute my opinion. If anything the blind defense reinforced it.

You didnt strike a nerve, genius. Your conspiracy theory about how the called "narrative " was beyond ridiculous when it comes to Xbox hardware and where and how they allow you to play your games.

They're literally giving gamers options, console hardware is just one way to play their games. Its not either/or. Its "in conjuction with"

Its you multi talented arm chair hardware developers, analysts and marketing guru types that need to keep your fucking day jobs, if I'm being honest.

 

[Airbus Jr]

Im going to be brutally honest here

This what makes me different from your notorious fanboy as i have no allegiance whatsoever to these companies...

Once a gaming company put their game on PC..its game over for them to get their system on my living room....

If Xbox and Ps are heading into this direction...well...allow me to say my farewell goodbye...

Nintendo will be the real winner from now on

 

[TwiztidElf]

I will continue to buy a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games.
Couldn't give two shits what Microsoft think about that.

 

[Gavon West]

Im going to be brutally honest here

This what makes me different from your notorious fanboy as i have no allegiance whatsoever to these companies...

Once a gaming company put their game on PC..its game over for them to get thier system on my living room....

If Xbox and Ps are heading into this direction...well...allow me to say my farewell goodbye...

Nintendo will be the real winner from now on

Sonys going down that road. Its inevitable. Nintendo is the wild caes in all this. They've always been in their own lane. Sony is definitely going down the multi platform route.

 

[Texas Pride]

You didnt strike a nerve, genius. Your conspiracy theory about how the called "narrative " was beyond ridiculous when it comes to Xbox hardware and where and how they allow you to play your games.

They're literally giving gamers options, console hardware is just one way to play their games. Its not either/or. Its "in conjuction with"

Its you multi talented arm chair hardware developers, analysts and marketing guru types that need to keep your fucking day jobs, if I'm being honest.

Console war would end if dudes like you and Kagey would stop fighting it. You only want to hear opinions you agree with sadly. If only life were that simple you would be shielded from everyone and everything you deem negative. That's not reality.

 

[Kagey K]

I will continue to buy a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games.
Couldn't give two shits what Microsoft think about that.

Likely they don’t care, and are happy you choose games you like.

I think they are hoping that if they release a game you also like you will find a way to buy it.

They are trying to make it as easy as they can for you to have a way to play it.

 

[Gavon West]

Console war would end if dudes like you and Kagey would stop fighting it. You only want to hear opinions you agree with sadly. If only life were that simple you would be shielded from everyone and everything you deem negative. That's not reality.

The fuck are you even talking about. What you said is factually, patently irrevocably wrong. Microsoft doesn't care where you play their games. If they did, they wouldn't put their games on PC. The home console is just another entry point to get gamers in their ecosystem. They simply give the options. Where the fuck you even came up with the 1976 Twilight Zone episode is legit baffling.

 

[Kagey K]

The fuck are you even talking about. What you said is factually, patently irrevocably wrong. Microsoft doesn't care where you play their games. If they did, they wouldn't put their games on PC. The home console is just another entry point to get gamers in their ecosystem. They simply give the options. Where the fuck you even came up with the 1976 Twilight Zone episode is legit baffling.

Don’t even bother man. He is just furthering my point. Move on and pretend he isn’t here shitting up this thread.

Its a wasted effort.

 

[Wolfgang Jr]

Well they're already fucked at number 1.

 

[Texas Pride]

The fuck are you even talking about. What you said is factually, patently irrevocably wrong. Microsoft doesn't care where you play their games. If they did, they wouldn't put their games on PC. The home console is just another entry point to get gamers in their ecosystem. They simply give the options. Where the fuck you even came up with the 1976 Twilight Zone episode is legit baffling.

If they truly didn't care where you played their games they'd stop making Xboxes and just go full service based. So no I think they do still care what and where you're playing.

 

[Texas Pride]

Don’t even bother man. He is just furthering my point. Move on and pretend he isn’t here shitting up this thread.

Its a wasted effort.

Says the guy passive aggressively shitting up the thread. As I said hypocrite.

 

[CasperDarling]

What a mess does this look from far away tbh

It really doesn't....I bet you are one of those people "concerned" with grandma and grandpa not knowing which Xbox to buy for Junior this Fall as well

 

[KiNeMz]

if they dont care if u buy the console and if this was there galaxy brain strategy then why not be a software/services publisher to begin with? how about making some games that are versatile and appeal to multiple markets before trying to root kit all devices.

Microsoft is a software and services company.

 

[Gavon West]

If they truly didn't care where you played their games they'd stop making Xboxes and just go full service based. So no I think they do still care what and where you're playing.

Again, its either/orr with you. Clearly they don't care. They even allowed their games on Steam now. You may not agree and youre entitled to your opinion but youre wrong.

 

[Texas Pride]

Again, its either/orr with you. Clearly they don't care. They even allowed their games on Steam now. You may not agree and youre entitled to your opinion but youre wrong.

I'm asking a legitimate question. If they really don't care why waste the money on consoles? I'm a customer of what I like. And I play and buy games from both companies but it is a question worth asking imo. There's nothing wrong with gamers experiencing games across multiple platforms I question the end game of where they see this going.

 

[Airbus Jr]

Sonys going down that road. Its inevitable. Nintendo is the wild caes in all this. They've always been in their own lane. Sony is definitely going down the multi platform route.

Turns out this is another one of those made up stories from journalist...so im gona wait n see first...

Unless its official from Sony..im calling it fake news....

 

[kyoji]

so why do they need hardware again?

 

[Gavon West]

Turns out this is another one of those made up stories from journalist...so im gona wait n see first...

Unless its official from Sony..im calling it fake news....

Link?
I couldve sworn the Kat who released HZ news was the same who said Sony would skip E3 2020.

 

[Kagey K]

so why do they need hardware again?

I don’t know. Ask them why they continue to make Sufaces.

It makes them money. Same as a Sony. Same as Nintendo. Same as you would.

The answer is easier then the problem.