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Wkd BO 03•17-19•17 - King Kong dethroned as Disney continues to BEAST box office

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kswiston

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Kong 3rd weekend should top Godzilla 3rd weekend despite a much smaller opening. It has already started matching or exceeding Godzilla daily totals.

Godzilla was the gold standard for terrible Blockbuster legs before Snyder showed them how it was done.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Having King Kong and Godzilla exist in Pacific Rim's past would be really screwy. Merging those only makes sense from a cynical studio exec's perspective, but absolutely none from a story perspective.
 
Having King Kong and Godzilla exist in Pacific Rim's past would be really screwy. Merging those only makes sense from a cynical studio exec's perspective, but absolutely none from a story perspective.

It makes no sense until it makes sense.

It's not as if we're dealing in a universe where plausibility is at a premium.

Prior to this the biggest problem was "How do we make the monkey bigger"

I'm pretty sure someone can come up with an answer to "how do we get the giant robots involved" that survives the 3 1/2 seconds it'll take to swallow before getting back to fighty time.
 

kswiston

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Having King Kong and Godzilla exist in Pacific Rim's past would be really screwy. Merging those only makes sense from a cynical studio exec's perspective, but absolutely none from a story perspective.

The easiest way to do it would be to just scrap the Pacific Rim timeline, and have the human characters reveal the start of the Jaeger program in the monsterverse as a stinger at the end of Godzilla v Kong.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Nah. Saban has a Power Rangers for kids. It's the show currently running on Nick.

This was for young adults and adults who grew up on Power Rangers.

Yeah but they're also not nostalgic for edgy teen power rangers. The whole concept never made sense. They shown have targeted this and made it like a Superhero movie not this entirely weird offshoot that the franchise has never been marketed as or experimented with for the franchise.
 
Speaking of, what's the early over/under we're thinking on Justice League? I haven't been following the superhero box office prediction thread, but I'm thinking under $300M domestic.
 
Guys, clearly Godzilla isn't actually born from radiation, the bombs are simply what opened the portal to the other dimension, the one in Pacific Rim. Godzilla came through the portal in very early, (remember, exponential time difference between monster emergences) and Godzilla and the monsters native to earth were then used as a template for the mechs in Pacific Rim. We can even have an awesome storyline where MechaGodzilla is the first of the human made mechs and they pit it against real Godzilla as a durability test.
 

Certinty

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Logan was great and Kong was good so good to see both still doing well.

Can't believe how well Get Out and Beauty and the Beast are doing though. Such meh movies.
 

kswiston

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Speaking of, what's the early over/under we're thinking on Justice League? I haven't been following the superhero box office prediction thread, but I'm thinking under $300M domestic.

I think people here are overly pessimistic about the DCEU films. At least more than the box office to date warrants. You could go through my superhero box office threads, but I'm pretty sure there were some $600M WW type predictions.

I personally think that Justice League will be in the same ballpark as BvS.
 
Speaking of, what's the early over/under we're thinking on Justice League? I haven't been following the superhero box office prediction thread, but I'm thinking under $300M domestic.

Over 300 absolutely dude. I'm not sure about a billion tho. It has a better shot than BvS at that tho because the tone will be considerably less grim than BvS

No families and kids wanted to see BVS again or recommend it when you have psychopath batman and burning superman effigies lol
 

Pachimari

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It has a better shot than BvS at that tho because the tone will be considerably less grim than BvS
Looking at the trailer, they're doubling down on the dark tone from BvS. They'll probably have more jokes and quips in there though. I think it'll do around $750m ww but it depends on the wom.
 

Anth0ny

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Yeah I think JL hits a billion. At Worst it does BvS numbers. Though I really think they need to reach that Billion milestone.

What if Wonder Woman is the absolute shits and the momentum going into JL is even more negative

I can see it doing less than BvS
 

kswiston

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Looking at the trailer, they're doubling down on the dark tone from BvS. They'll probably have more jokes and quips in there though. I think it'll do around $750m ww but it depends on the wom.

I'm not going to defend the DCEU, because it has been subpar to date, but Aqua-Drogo already looks like more fun than Batman or Superman were in BvS and MoS. I also think that Ezra Miller can turn in a good Flash performance, even if it will be a different take on the character than we usually see.

Cyborg is Cyborg, so not much you can do there.
 
I think people here are overly pessimistic about the DCEU films. At least more than the box office to date warrants. You could go through my superhero box office threads, but I'm pretty sure there were some $600M WW type predictions.

I personally think that Justice League will be in the same ballpark as BvS.

Over 300 absolutely dude. I'm not sure about a billion tho. It has a better shot than BvS at that tho because the tone will be considerably less grim than BvS

No families and kids wanted to see BVS again or recommend it when you have psychopath batman and burning superman effigies lol
Hmm. I definitely don't think it's going to drop to $600M WW, but I'd be surprised if it did hit BvS numbers domestically.

A lot of it may depend on if Wonder Woman is well received, but putting that aside, this is still following a movie that couldn't break a 2.0 multiplier despite some of the weakest competition possible, it's less than 2 years since BvS so there hasn't been much time for people to forget their feelings about it, and every one of Snyder's post-300 films have had, at best, divisive WOM. Justice League will have better legs by virtue of the holidays, but I say the damage has been done to the opening weekend, and Snyder directing means the legs will still be poor. A 125/295 run mirroring Deathly Hollows Pt. 1 is what I'm thinking.

Edit: A result like that would probably make heads roll at WB, but I actually think it would be pretty decent in the context of BvS. If the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern film got a sequel, we'd be discussing the possibility of it dropping over 50% in gross, not just 10%.
 
Deadline is estimating $40+ million for Power Rangers while $90 million for B&B.

Not bad for power rangers. If that turns out to be enough to warrant a sequel, hopefully they learn from some of the shitty parts of this one. Next one needs more action parts and less Michael Bay inspired writing.
 

kswiston

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So its probably safe to go ahead and lock $500M domestic for Beauty and the Beast. There's no $350M film in the same genre to cut its legs out from under it like Finding Dory last year.
 
It's safe to say they're never gonna go through the hide the monsters' route again.
Or kill the most interesting human character a third the way through the film. Skull Island didn't make that mistake.

It's not a terrible idea as long as they pay it off

Godzilla 1 didn't pay off
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THAT'S PAY OFF, SON
they should have shown the airport fight, though
 
Or kill the most interesting human character a third the way through the film. Skull Island didn't make that mistake.

I think Skull Island killed off John Goodman way too soon, but this time it had John Reilly's character to fall back on unlike Godzilla.

It's not a terrible idea as long as they pay it off

Godzilla 1 didn't pay off
I agree the problem wasn't the screen time, but the human element falling apart when Cranston died and the constant cutaways leaving the audience feeling blue balled.
 

Vectorman

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I think Skull Island killed off John Goodman way too soon, but this time it had John Reilly's character to fall back on unlike Godzilla.


I agree the problem wasn't the screen time, but the human element falling apart when Cranston died and the constant cutaways leaving the audience feeling blue balled.
Cranston was the heart and soul of the film until he was taken from us too soon. If they were really pining on killing him, at least make his death seem like it means something at the end of the film than just feeling like he was being written out.
 

mcfrank

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I think Skull Island killed off John Goodman way too soon, but this time it had John Reilly's character to fall back on unlike Godzilla.


I agree the problem wasn't the screen time, but the human element falling apart when Cranston died and the constant cutaways leaving the audience feeling blue balled.

Little early for open spoilers like that. Thanks a bunch.
 

kswiston

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Since Ghost in the Shell came up, boxoffice.com updated their long term forecast list yesterday.

Ghost in the Shell was downgraded to a $32M opening weekend and $82M total. The Boss Baby was raised to $33M opening weekend and $112M total.

Their initial forecast for Alien Covenant is $35M OW/$90M total

I don't think it's currently scheduled to come out in China, unless that's changed in the past two weeks.

It will come out in China. Pretty much everything from Lionsgate does. Nerve came out in China.
 
Boss Baby has gotten some interesting reactions from the trailers. Lots of laughs at showings, but everyone I talk to about it thinks it looks creepy.

Alien is one of Fox's two big tentpoles of the summer, so $90M would have to seem really disappointing.
 
Logan was great and Kong was good so good to see both still doing well.

Can't believe how well Get Out and Beauty and the Beast are doing though. Such meh movies.

Beauty and the Beast is freaking perfect and deserves every bit of the massive success coming its way. Wonderful, wonderful movie!
 

kswiston

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Give BatB Maleficent legs so it can hit 600M.

It's sort of crazy that Beauty and the Beast will end up over The Jungle Book's domestic total by next Friday or Saturday.

Maleficent's total was really impressive back when it released, but now that's mid-level for Disney's live action fairy tale stuff.
 
It's sort of crazy that Beauty and the Beast will end up over The Jungle Book's domestic total by next Friday or Saturday.

Maleficent's total was really impressive back when it released, but now that's mid-level for Disney's live action fairy tale stuff.
Maleficent was the third highest grossing film of summer 2014. A bit of an indictment of how awful that summer was, but I'm still surprised how good the legs were with how awful the film was IMO.
 
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