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Wkd BO 03•31-04•02•17- Baby, Beast, BOMBA. Oda Mae Brown to ScarJo: u in danger, gUrl

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Jacce

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jett said:
What?

Denis Villeneuve is ten times the director than those two hacks put together.
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I think a lot of people don't realize he has been around a long time and a consistent director of critically acclaimed oscar nominated films. I don't think anyone really put a name to his films till Arrival for whatever reason.
 
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Akainu

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Poor GRIMES said:
Ghost in the Shell underperforming on its projected underperformance is kinda hilarious
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Oh?! Can this get any sweeter? Get fucked douchebags. HAha!

You know it really warms my heart when the manga is mentioned when people take about this gits movie.
 
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duckroll

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Jacce said:
I think a lot of people don't realize he has been around a long time and a consistent director of critically acclaimed oscar nominated films. I don't think anyone really put a name to his films till Arrival for whatever reason.
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He hasn't though. Villenneuve is definitely very new to Hollywood. He's just crazy hardworking and very good. He's only been super active for less than ten years, but in those years he has made 7 films. 4 of those are total critic darlings.
 
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Jacce

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duckroll said:
He hasn't though. Villenneuve is definitely very new to Hollywood. He's just crazy hardworking and very good. He's only been super active for less than ten years, but in those years he has made 7 films. 4 of those are total critic darlings.
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Yeah I mean about 10 years, he gets compared to brand new directors which really isn't the case.
 
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kswiston

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In case it gets buried in the next day or two: I made a thread summarizing Deadline's series of articles spotlighting the Top 20 films of 2016 by Studio Profit. The thread now contains charts for the complete Top 20. Check it out if you are interested: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1355253

duckroll said:
He hasn't though. Villenneuve is definitely very new to Hollywood. He's just crazy hardworking and very good. He's only been super active for less than ten years, but in those years he has made 7 films. 4 of those are total critic darlings.
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Being that we are talking about Hollywood, his French Canadian films aren't going to really count. Prisoners was his first Hollywood film. Incendies got his name out to get onto Prisoners, but let's be honest, not a lot of Americans watch subbed French Canadian films. It's not all that unreasonable to expect most people to have first heard of him within the last 2-3 years.

After Sicario, it was pretty clear that Villenneuve was going to be an up and coming director in hollywood. Arrival cemented that. Hopefully Bladerunner 2049 is great as well.
 
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duckroll

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kswiston said:
Being that we are talking about Hollywood, his French Canadian films aren't going to really count. Prisoners was his first Hollywood film. Incendies got his name out to get onto Prisoners, but let's be honest, not a lot of Americans watch subbed French Canadian films. It's not all that unreasonable to expect most people to have first heard of him within the last 2-3 years.

After Sicario, it was pretty clear that Villenneuve was going to be an up and coming director in hollywood. Arrival cemented that. Hopefully Bladerunner 2049 is great as well.
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I agree, that's why I mostly started from 2009. No one watched Polytechnique, but he at least made an English version of it to attempt to get it distributed wider. Incendies is what put his name on the map as far as I can tell (really amazing film, everyone should watch it), so that's when I would say he "made" it into Hollywood to get jobs after that.

The main difference between him and someone like Trank and Trevorrow isn't that he has been in Hollywood for much longer, but rather that his output is both quality and quantity. He makes stuff so goddamn fast. It's insane to me.
 
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Jacce

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duckroll said:
I agree, that's why I mostly started from 2009. No one watched Polytechnique, but he at least made an English version of it to attempt to get it distributed wider. Incendies is what put his name on the map as far as I can tell (really amazing film, everyone should watch it), so that's when I would say he "made" it into Hollywood to get jobs after that.

The main difference between him and someone like Trank and Trevorrow isn't that he has been in Hollywood for much longer, but rather that his output is both quality and quantity. He makes stuff so goddamn fast. It's insane to me.
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Spielberg used to be able to do that in his pre-Old Man Spielberg days . Close Encourers two years after Jaws. ET one year after Raiders. Jurassic Park and Schindlers List in the same year.
 
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kswiston

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duckroll said:
The main difference between him and someone like Trank and Trevorrow isn't that he has been in Hollywood for much longer, but rather that his output is both quality and quantity. He makes stuff so goddamn fast. It's insane to me.
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Ya, hopefully he doesn't get burned out.


As for Blade Runner 2049. I don't think that it will flop, but I don't think that it will make crazy money either. Something between Passengers and Prometheus sounds about right worldwide ($300-400M) if it is good. This was one of Harrison Ford's more notable roles, and the original is a cult classic. Hopefully the budget was in line with those other films as well. Arrival looked good for less than $50M.


Jacce said:
Spielberg used to be able to do that in his pre-Old Man Spielberg days . Close Encourers two years after Jaws. ET one year after Raiders. Jurassic Park and Schindlers List in the same year.
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Even after he became Old-Man Spielberg, Spielberg has always liked to clump his projects together. The Lost World, Amistad, and Saving Private Ryan came out within an 18 month span. AI, Minority Report, and Catch Me if you Can released in a 14 month period. The Terminal, War of the Worlds, and Munich released in an 18 month period. Tintin, Warhorse, and Lincoln were all less than a year apart. Bridge of Spies and the BFG were less than a year apart. Of course, he typically took 2-4 years off between those bouts.
 
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broncobuster

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I'm skeptical Blade Runner 2049 is over $100mil or close to it. Blade Runner's action scenes were subdued, really only foot chases, and I don't see Denis trying to turn it into a big action movie.
 
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duckroll

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broncobuster said:
I'm skeptical Blade Runner 2049 is over $100mil or close to it. Blade Runner's action scenes were subdued, really only foot chases, and I don't see Denis trying to turn it into a big action movie.
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The cost is going into a lot of practical sets and set pieces allegedly. Villenneuve doesn't like green screen much. They built real sets for action pieces and use a lot of practical effects for the action scenes. There's apparently quite a bit of action that they showed off at Cinemacon apparently. I'm sure it'll still be a character-first thriller, but this is definitely going to be his most "mainstream" film to date. Prep for Dune maybe!
 
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kswiston

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Unlike the original, the talent in the Blade Runner sequel is probably pretty expensive as well. Still, "one of the most expensive R-Rated independent films ever" could be $80-100M.
 
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duckroll

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I don't see it as a 120-150 million film at all. But I'll be very surprised if it isn't in the neighborhood of 100 million.
 
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kswiston

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duckroll said:
I don't see it as a 120-150 million film at all. But I'll be very surprised if it isn't in the neighborhood of 100 million.
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Again assuming it is good, the Academy loves to give technical oscars to things like Blade Runner over the bigger blockbusters that they largely dislike. Even if its budget is on the high side for its gross, Hollywood tends to forgive that if it comes with trophies.

Better than spending the same sort of money on Transcendence and Point Break 2015!
 
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PhoncipleBone

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As curious as I am about Blade Runner, I am more curious about Villeneuve's adaptation of Dune. It is his dream project, and it is some fantastic source material to adapt.
 
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twinturbo2

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Frankly, if I were the head of Paramount, I would put up a YouTube video apologizing for GITS, say we shit the bed, and we will have a plan in place to increase diversity on both sides of the camera within the coming weeks.

They hired a new head for the studio last week, they have nothing to lose.
 
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duckroll

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twinturbo2 said:
Frankly, if I were the head of Paramount, I would put up a YouTube video apologizing for GITS, say we shit the bed, and we will have a plan in place to increase diversity on both sides of the camera within the coming weeks.

They hired a new head for the studio last week, they have nothing to lose.
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They can start by announcing the Chin Han Cut of GitS on blu-ray.

(Am I sounding like a broken record yet?)
 
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brianmcdoogle

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Hey all, what's the protocol of doing a movie OT? I have one I'd like to do that I think no one has claimed that is coming out in May. Do I need to wait a week before its supposed release date, or can I put it up now?
 
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Chumley

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twinturbo2 said:
Frankly, if I were the head of Paramount, I would put up a YouTube video apologizing for GITS, say we shit the bed, and we will have a plan in place to increase diversity on both sides of the camera within the coming weeks.

They hired a new head for the studio last week, they have nothing to lose.
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That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. They'd be throwing everyone who put hard work into making the movie under the bus for a casting decision they had nothing to do with. Like it or not, the film has merits, like for example the astounding art direction and cinematography.

It's cyberpunk, which has historically always been a hard sell in terms of BO.
 
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twinturbo2

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Chumley said:
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. They'd be throwing everyone who put hard work into making the movie under the bus for a casting decision they had nothing to do with. Like it or not, the film has merits, like for example the astounding art direction and cinematography.

It's cyberpunk, which has historically always been a hard sell in terms of BO.
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New regime, they have to do something, and this is probably the best they can do. In terms of PR, at least, it could help in terms of winning the crowd back.
 
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Leona Lewis

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twinturbo2 said:
New regime, they have to do something, and this is probably the best they can do. In terms of PR, at least, it could help in terms of winning the crowd back.
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Win back? The portion of people they "lost" is infinitesimal compared to the much larger cohort of moviegoers who simply couldn't be bothered with the film.

An apology, no matter how sincere, would just throw more red meat to the vocal minority while yielding nothing in return.
 
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MoeDabs

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twinturbo2 said:
New regime, they have to do something, and this is probably the best they can do. In terms of PR, at least, it could help in terms of winning the crowd back.
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What crowd? The ship has sailed(sunk) on this film, and no one is going to protest Bayformers 5 over this. They won't throw their artists under the bus over some backlash in early spring.
 
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hodayathink

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twinturbo2 said:
New regime, they have to do something, and this is probably the best they can do. In terms of PR, at least, it could help in terms of winning the crowd back.
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The crowd for what, though? It's not like people are boycotting the new Transformers film because of Ghost in the Shell. And it's not like "the crowd" would go see GitS if they apologized. There's nothing that they gain from an apology.

Edit: beaten.
 
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Chumley

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twinturbo2 said:
New regime, they have to do something, and this is probably the best they can do. In terms of PR, at least, it could help in terms of winning the crowd back.
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So they gain nothing, and lose everyone who worked on the movie including possibly Scarlett Johansson. Smart move.
 
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twinturbo2

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Leona Lewis said:
Win back? The portion of people they "lost" is infinitesimal compared to the much larger cohort of moviegoers who simply couldn't be bothered with the film.

An apology, no matter how sincere, would just throw more red meat to the vocal minority while yielding nothing in return.
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This is Paramount's third huge flop in less than a year. They have nothing to lose.

Chumley said:
So they gain nothing, and lose everyone who worked on the movie including possibly Scarlett Johansson. Smart move.
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Hate to say it, but ScarJo is probably going to be tainted forever by this. You know how people keep bringing up Mickey Rooney's role in Breakfast at Tiffany's 50 years later as an example of racist casting? It may not be that bad, but if I were ScarJo, I'd milk whatever MCU cash is left for its worth...
 
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Branduil

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I like how since GitS' failure can't be blamed on ScarJo or sci-fi now it's just because obviously everyone hates cyberpunk.
 
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hodayathink

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twinturbo2 said:
This is Paramount's third huge flop in less than a year. They have nothing to lose.
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They have nothing to gain as well.

twinturbo2 said:
Hate to say it, but ScarJo is probably going to be tainted forever by this. You know how people keep bringing up Mickey Rooney's role in Breakfast at Tiffany's 50 years later as an example of racist casting? It may not be that bad, but if I were ScarJo, I'd milk whatever MCU cash is left for its worth...
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You know how star power isn't really a thing anymore? The inverse to that is that box office poison isn't really a thing anymore either.
 
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GAMEPROFF

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twinturbo2 said:
Hate to say it, but ScarJo is probably going to be tainted forever by this. You know how people keep bringing up Mickey Rooney's role in Breakfast at Tiffany's 50 years later as an example of racist casting? It may not be that bad, but if I were ScarJo, I'd milk whatever MCU cash is left for its worth...
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Nobody will care. Nobody cares about Emma Stone, too beside the bad overused NeoGAF Jokeposter.
 
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duckroll

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Paramount has Transformers coming soon. They'll bounce back. SIR Anthony Hopkins. Strong young female lead. The greatest struggle Optimus Prime ever faced. Gonna be a real event. Pumped.
 
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Chumley

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twinturbo2 said:
Hate to say it, but ScarJo is probably going to be tainted forever by this. You know how people keep bringing up Mickey Rooney's role in Breakfast at Tiffany's 50 years later as an example of racist casting? It may not be that bad, but if I were ScarJo, I'd milk whatever MCU cash is left for its worth...
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This is a joke, right? Did you know she has a career outside of mass-audience blockbusters? See Under the Skin some time.
 
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BumRush

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kswiston said:
I think that Fate of the Furious is largely expected to be smaller than Furious 7 domestically. China might be bigger.
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I wonder if the proposed angle
(Dom turning on his fam)
will actually hurt the film a bit (despite knowing there will be a twist)
 
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kswiston

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BumRush said:
I wonder if the proposed angle
(Dom turning on his fam)
will actually hurt the film a bit (despite knowing there will be a twist)
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Possibly. I guess they had to do something to mix things up after the last film. However, I also think that a lot of the audience just goes to see the crazy set pieces. We'll see how much Paul Walker's death inflated interest/awareness of the last film.


In China, Fate of the Furious is going to easily set a new opening weekend record. We might see the first foreign opening to challenge the upper end of the domestic chart ($150M+)
 
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BronsonLee

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I just got sent an email about one of those stupid IMAX preview events where they only show like 10 minutes of footage, this time for Transformers:

TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT IMAX FAN EVENT Passes
You're invited to attend this evening's special fan event for TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT. Come and check out 25 minutes of brand new footage from the upcoming film and receive a free t-shirt, phone dock and limited edition poster. Also, all will be eligible to win great prizes on-site, such as iPads and a Playstation VR! Download now!
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Here have all this free shit you'll throw away also please come and get these things
 
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kswiston

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This got lost in the excitement of GitS bombing, but WTF Sony:


Passengers Daily Gross

Code: 
Date	Gross		% Change	Theaters	PTA	Total
03/24  	$39,013		+510%  		506  		$77  	$99,528,233
03/25  	$338,168  	+767%  		506  		$668  	$99,866,401
03/26  	$20,291  	-94%  		506  		$40  	$99,886,692
 
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Gentleman Jack

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kswiston said:
This got lost in the excitement of GitS bombing, but WTF Sony:


Passengers Daily Gross

Code: 
Date	Gross		% Change	Theaters	PTA	Total
03/24  	$39,013		+510%  		506  		$77  	$99,528,233
03/25  	$338,168  	+767%  		506  		$668  	$99,866,401
03/26  	$20,291  	-94%  		506  		$40  	$99,886,692
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This looks like tax fraud or money laundering lol
 
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