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[NealMcCauley]

This got lost in the excitement of GitS bombing, but WTF Sony:


Passengers Daily Gross

Date	Gross		% Change	Theaters	PTA	Total
03/24  	$39,013		+510%  		506  		$77  	$99,528,233
03/25  	$338,168  	+767%  		506  		$668  	$99,866,401
03/26  	$20,291  	-94%  		506  		$40  	$99,886,692

I noticed that when you pointed it out earlier. That's not suspect at all.

 

[duckroll]

Hahaha maybe they had some promo tie-up where they gave away a bunch of free tickets for that day? Would it count?

 

[kswiston]

Hahaha maybe they had some promo tie-up where they gave away a bunch of free tickets for that day? Would it count?

The numbers have been wonky for some time now. Even this weekend doesn't really make sense.

Day	Date	Gross		% Change (DoD)	%Change (WoW)	Theaters	PTA	Total		Day in Run
Fri	03/17	$14,553		-2.8%		-53.2%		90		$162	$99,423,064	87
Sat	03/18	$26,097		+79.3%		-43.4%		90		$290	$99,449,161	88
Sun	03/19	$17,684		-32.2%		-37.6%		90		$196	$99,466,845	89
Mon	03/20	$4,712		-73.4%		-63.2%		90		$52	$99,471,557	90
Tue	03/21	$6,614		+40.4%		-58.6%		90		$73	$99,478,171	91
Wed	03/22	$4,654		-29.6%		-66.8%		90		$52	$99,482,825	92
Thu	03/23	$6,395		+37.4%		-57.3%		90		$71	$99,489,220	93

Fri	03/24  	$39,013		+510%  		+168.1%		506  		$77  	$99,528,233	94
Sat	03/25  	$338,168  	+767%  		+1195.7%	506  		$668  	$99,866,401	95
Sun	03/26  	$20,291  	-94%  		+14.7%		506  		$40  	$99,886,692	96
Mon	03/27	$5,493		-72.9%		+16.6%		506		$11	$99,892,185	97
Tue	03/28	$6,581		+19.8%		-0.5%		506		$13	$99,898,766	98
Wed	03/29	$5,909		-10.2%		+27.0%		506		$12	$99,904,675	99
Thu	03/30	$5,861		-0.8%		-8.4%		506		$12	$99,910,536	100

Fri	03/31	$13,472		+129.9%		-65.5%		57		$236	$99,924,008	101
Sat	04/01	$26,497		+96.7%		-92.2%		57		$465	$99,950,505	102
Sun	04/02	$6,227		-76.5%		-69.3%		57		$109	$99,956,732	103

 

[Jacce]

New regime, they have to do something, and this is probably the best they can do. In terms of PR, at least, it could help in terms of winning the crowd back.

Hate to say it, but ScarJo is probably going to be tainted forever by this. You know how people keep bringing up Mickey Rooney's role in Breakfast at Tiffany's 50 years later as an example of racist casting? It may not be that bad, but if I were ScarJo, I'd milk whatever MCU cash is left for its worth...

GiTS bombing had literally nothing to do with the race of the lead. Like 0 impact. Comparing it to Mickey Rooney in Breakfast Club is insane.

Rooney played an asian, and did so as a racist stereotype. GitS just changed the race. SarJo didn't play it as some sort of asian stereotype.

Comparing the two just downplays the actual racism in BaT. If you think there is this mass controversy about the recasting of an anime character you are living in a alternate reality.

 

[twinturbo2]

This is a joke, right? Did you know she has a career outside of mass-audience blockbusters? See Under the Skin some time.

There's a good chance this ruins her reputation for a while, if not permenantly.

Here, read this.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...esses-dissect-movie-whitewashing-twist-990956

Acknowledging the fuck up and taking steps to learn from this is probably the best Paramount can do here.

 

[Jacce]

There's a good chance this ruins her reputation for a while, if not permenantly.

Here, read this.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...esses-dissect-movie-whitewashing-twist-990956

Acknowledging the fuck up and taking steps to learn from this is probably the best Paramount can do here.

How does this ruin her reputation? The Emma Stone situation with Aloha was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse and got far far far more bad press. How much did that hurt her career?

Nobody cares. No one will even remember this movie even came out in a month.

 

[kswiston]

Emma Stone just won best actress.

Case closed on white-washing ruining careers.

 

[Jacce]

Emma Stone just won best actress.

Case closed on white-washing ruining careers.

Not to mention the bad press about that vastly dwarfed this.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Not to mention the bad press about that vastly dwarfed this.

Exactly. This is just going to blow over rather quickly.

 

[BumRush]

I was just reading Kswiss' other thread on the top 20 net earners. Curious what the top 5 will be in 2017. BatB and Star Wars for sure...but what else? Thoughts?

 

[hodayathink]

I was just reading Kswiss' other thread on the top 20 net earners. Curious what the top 5 will be in 2017. BatB and Star Wars for sure...but what else? Thoughts?

Does Illumination have a movie coming out this year?

 

[Chumley]

Not to mention the bad press about that vastly dwarfed this.

Exactly. People here have short memories.

 

[RastaMentality]

Not to mention the bad press about that vastly dwarfed this.

Was that really that much bigger? I'd say they were at least on the same level. the Ghost in the Shell stuff seemed way bigger on black twitter tho.

 

[Future Foundation]

Does Illumination have a movie coming out this year?

Despicable Me 3

 

[Chumley]

Was that really that much bigger? I'd say they were at least on the same level. the Ghost in the Shell stuff seemed way bigger on black twitter tho.

Yes. Aloha was entirely defined by the controversy, it made mainstream news IIRC and was the butt of jokes by a lot of comedians. Not even comparable, the GitS stuff is big on Twitter but that's about it.

 

[hodayathink]

Despicable Me 3

Don't know how I blanked on that. So there's 3. IF GOTG can get close to or pass a billion (which I'm not sure it can), that'd make 4.

 

[kswiston]

I was just reading Kswiss' other thread on the top 20 net earners. Curious what the top 5 will be in 2017. BatB and Star Wars for sure...but what else? Thoughts?

Star Wars (probably #1 at that), Despicable Me 3, and Beauty and the Beast are the easy calls. There seem to be fewer big animated films this year, so it might be whichever $150-200M films can manage at least $375M domestic and $900M+ worldwide.


I think that Logan, Split, and Get Out are pretty much guaranteed to show up somewhere in the top 20. Logan might crack the top 10.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

We thinking Transformers will crack the top 10 this year despite historically needing overseas grosses to crack a bil and a domestic ceiling of likely $200M?

 

[kswiston]

We thinking Transformers will crack the top 10 this year despite historically needing overseas grosses to crack a bil and a domestic ceiling of likely $200M?

Transformers has a lot working against it this time around, so I would say no. Exchange rates are way down.


Here are the last couple of lists before the one I made a thread about.

2015
1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens — $923.86M
2. Minions — $502.34M
3. Jurassic World — $474.63
4. Avengers: Age Of Ultron — $382.32M
5. Furious 7 — $354.03M
6. Inside Out — $279.51M
7. Fifty Shades Of Grey — $255.46M
8. Cinderella — $164.77M
9. Hotel Transylvania 2 — $159.48M
10. The Martian — $150.32M
11. Pitch Perfect 2 — $139.64M
12. The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2 — $134.39M
13. Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation — $109.80M
14. Ant-Man – $103.90M
15. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out Of Water — $99.80M
16. Spectre — $98.40M
17. Straight Outta Compton — $91.12M
18. San Andreas — $88.07M
19. The Revenant — $61.6M
20. Home — $29.12M


2014
1. Transformers: Age Of Extinction – $250.155
2. American Sniper – $242.58
3. The Lego Movie – $229.008
4. The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 – $211.609
5. Guardians of the Galaxy – $204.2
6. Maleficent – $190.77
7. Big Hero 6 – $187.339
8. Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes – $182.179
9. Captain America: The Winter Soldier – $166.224
10. 22 Jump Street – $144.476
11. Neighbors – $136.05
12. Gone Girl – $129.99
13. How to Train Your Dragon 2 – $107.337
14. The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies – $103.379
15. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – $81.31
16. X-Men: Days Of Future Past – $77.384
17. Divergent – $71.868
18. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 – $70.377
19. Godzilla – $52.477
20. Interstellar – $47.161

 

[Slayven]

Ruin Scarjo's rep? Nah, ruin female lead movies in general, maybe

 

[kswiston]

In posting the lists above, I realize that Divergent went from a top 20 most profitable film to direct to TV conclusion announcement in all of three years.

 

[Slayven]

In posting the lists above, I realize that Divergent went from a top 20 most profitable film to direct to TV conclusion announcement in all of three years.

When did their trajectory diverge?

 

[duckroll]

Ruin Scarjo's rep? Nah, ruin female lead movies in general, maybe

Transformers will fix that.

 

[BumRush]

Transformers has a lot working against it this time around, so I would say no. Exchange rates are way down.


Here are the last couple of lists before the one I made a thread about.

2015
1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens — $923.86M
2. Minions — $502.34M
3. Jurassic World — $474.63
4. Avengers: Age Of Ultron — $382.32M
5. Furious 7 — $354.03M
6. Inside Out — $279.51M
7. Fifty Shades Of Grey — $255.46M
8. Cinderella — $164.77M
9. Hotel Transylvania 2 — $159.48M
10. The Martian — $150.32M
11. Pitch Perfect 2 — $139.64M
12. The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2 — $134.39M
13. Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation — $109.80M
14. Ant-Man – $103.90M
15. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out Of Water — $99.80M
16. Spectre — $98.40M
17. Straight Outta Compton — $91.12M
18. San Andreas — $88.07M
19. The Revenant — $61.6M
20. Home — $29.12M


2014
1. Transformers: Age Of Extinction – $250.155
2. American Sniper – $242.58
3. The Lego Movie – $229.008
4. The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1 – $211.609
5. Guardians of the Galaxy – $204.2
6. Maleficent – $190.77
7. Big Hero 6 – $187.339
8. Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes – $182.179
9. Captain America: The Winter Soldier – $166.224
10. 22 Jump Street – $144.476
11. Neighbors – $136.05
12. Gone Girl – $129.99
13. How to Train Your Dragon 2 – $107.337
14. The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies – $103.379
15. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – $81.31
16. X-Men: Days Of Future Past – $77.384
17. Divergent – $71.868
18. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 – $70.377
19. Godzilla – $52.477
20. Interstellar – $47.161

These are the same net profit metric?

 

[Slayven]

Transformers will fix that.

I didn't know until this week that in the new Transformers the little girl is suppose to be the lead. The commercials suck, will we get a random Edison Chen cameo to replace the boxer?

 

[kswiston]

These are the same net profit metric?

Yes. They had a 2013 list, but they were going with the March Madness gimmick, and I don't think there was an easily grabbable summary list. Despicable Me 2 won, and I think that Frozen was second that year.

 

[BumRush]

Yes. They had a 2013 list, but they were going with the March Madness gimmick, and I don't think there was an easily grabbable summary list. Despicable Me 2 won, and I think that Frozen was second that year.

TFA made almost a billion net profit...holy shit

 

[Jacce]

Was that really that much bigger? I'd say they were at least on the same level. the Ghost in the Shell stuff seemed way bigger on black twitter tho.

Aloha controversy got attention from actual real news, the entire film was defined by that controversy. It got made fun of in talk show monologues. It even got called out at the actual oscars in a joke. It was unquestionably bigger.

GitS getting made fun of on black twitter (which has a vastly overstated anime interest than the pop culture at large) and nerd circles is a drop in the bucket by comparison.

 

[duckroll]

I didn't know until this week that in the new Transformers the little girl is suppose to be the lead. The commercials suck, will we get a random Edison Chen cameo to replace the boxer?

I hope we get an hour of Chin Han to make up for the GitS loss.

 

[Slayven]

I hope we get an hour of Chin Han to make up for the GitS loss.

Is Ziyi Zhang busy?

 

[kswiston]

I wonder if the human survivors of ravaged United States in TF5 will make their way to an intact China. Home to the only government left standing, bravely in defiance of the Decepticons.

 

[Slayven]

I wonder if the human survivors of ravaged United States in TF5 will make there way to an intact China. Home to the only government left standing, bravely in defiance of the Decepticons.

i still don't know how they ended up in China in the last movie. Like i watched it, but it doesn't follow logic

 

[BronsonLee]

Because the MacGuffin was there!

I got tickets to a Furious screening on Saturday, but it's Phillies Opening Night so I might bounce to that instead, even though it'll be boring as fuck

 

[Slayven]

Because the MacGuffin was there!

I got tickets to a Furious screening on Saturday, but it's Phillies Opening Night so I might bounce to that instead, even though it'll be boring as fuck

You still owe me for civil war

 

[duckroll]

Is Ziyi Zhang busy?

I think she's too old for Bay's tastes now.

 

[Slayven]

I think she's too old for Bay's tastes now.

She will forever be the plucky villain from Rush Hour 2 to me

 

[kswiston]

I think she's too old for Bay's tastes now.

Speaking of that. Does going from an 18 year old actress playing a 17 year old, to a 15 year old actress presumably playing someone around that age save us from Bay and his writers being creepy?



EDIT: On topic, Kong passes $150M in China in the next day or two.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Speaking of that. Does going from an 18 year old actress playing a 17 year old, to a 15 year old actress presumably playing someone around that age save us from Bay and his writers being creepy?

Why would that stop them?

 

[kswiston]

Beauty and the Beast broke $400M domestic and $900M worldwide yesterday.

 

[BumRush]

Beauty and the Beast broke $400M domestic and $900M worldwide yesterday.

Does it have a shot at $500M Dom still?

 

[Htown]

Ruin Scarjo's rep? Nah, ruin female lead movies in general, maybe

Nah.

If Wonder Woman under-performs, though...

 

[NealMcCauley]

Huh, I was half-right. The local imax is splitting the screen with GitS and BatB for a week starting Friday. BatB (in 2d no less) gets the 7pm time.

 

[kswiston]

Does it have a shot at $500M Dom still?

It's $23M past Age of Ultron and easily making more on a daily basis. BatB needs to finish $41M ahead of AoU to hit $500M. I think it gets there. There's only one major film in April, and Disney will start sticking it in Drive-in double features when Guardians and Pirates come out if it is close.

Beating TDK or Rogue One domestically is unlikely now though. It will setting at the #8 of all time spot. Good for 16-30 months in the domestic top 10

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

The numbers have been wonky for some time now. Even this weekend doesn't really make sense.

Day	Date	Gross		% Change (DoD)	%Change (WoW)	Theaters	PTA	Total		Day in Run
Fri	03/17	$14,553		-2.8%		-53.2%		90		$162	$99,423,064	87
Sat	03/18	$26,097		+79.3%		-43.4%		90		$290	$99,449,161	88
Sun	03/19	$17,684		-32.2%		-37.6%		90		$196	$99,466,845	89
Mon	03/20	$4,712		-73.4%		-63.2%		90		$52	$99,471,557	90
Tue	03/21	$6,614		+40.4%		-58.6%		90		$73	$99,478,171	91
Wed	03/22	$4,654		-29.6%		-66.8%		90		$52	$99,482,825	92
Thu	03/23	$6,395		+37.4%		-57.3%		90		$71	$99,489,220	93

Fri	03/24  	$39,013		+510%  		+168.1%		506  		$77  	$99,528,233	94
Sat	03/25  	$338,168  	+767%  		+1195.7%	506  		$668  	$99,866,401	95
Sun	03/26  	$20,291  	-94%  		+14.7%		506  		$40  	$99,886,692	96
Mon	03/27	$5,493		-72.9%		+16.6%		506		$11	$99,892,185	97
Tue	03/28	$6,581		+19.8%		-0.5%		506		$13	$99,898,766	98
Wed	03/29	$5,909		-10.2%		+27.0%		506		$12	$99,904,675	99
Thu	03/30	$5,861		-0.8%		-8.4%		506		$12	$99,910,536	100

Fri	03/31	$13,472		+129.9%		-65.5%		57		$236	$99,924,008	101
Sat	04/01	$26,497		+96.7%		-92.2%		57		$465	$99,950,505	102
Sun	04/02	$6,227		-76.5%		-69.3%		57		$109	$99,956,732	103

That huge 767% saturday increase is most likely because the majority of theaters during that expansion were playing it only on Saturday.

 

[3N16MA]

I wonder just how much War for the Planet of the Apes will cut into Spider-Man's legs. Apes had one of the best received trailers I have seen in awhile for a big budget summer film. Wouldn't be suprised at an OW way about the 72M of the previous film.

 

[kswiston]

That huge 767% saturday increase is most likely because the majority of theaters during that expansion were playing it only on Saturday.

Even if that was the case, it seems unlikely that the film would do 12x the business of the previous saturday so late in its run. There are a number of other days that are weird there. This past Sunday for example.

I wonder just how much War for the Planet of the Apes will cut into Spider-Man's legs. Apes had one of the best received trailers I have seen in awhile for a big budget summer film. Wouldn't be suprised at an OW way about the 72M of the previous film.

I will be cautious on that one, because most of us were expecting bigger bumps from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (outside of China) when it released as well.

EDIT: It could end up playing like the Bourne trilogy. It could also end up with a flatter gross than those films.

 

[Discotheque]

I wonder just how much War for the Planet of the Apes will cut into Spider-Man's legs. Apes had one of the best received trailers I have seen in awhile for a big budget summer film. Wouldn't be suprised at an OW way about the 72M of the previous film.

Hopefully it makes a lot of money. Looks like the best franchise movie of the summer

Could be of the year even

 

[kswiston]

Boxoffice.com recently posted their weekend predictions, and they are expecting Smurfs to flop domestically with $14.5M. The film is releasing over 3600 venues. Another feather in the Sony cap. At least the production budget estimate was only $60M. Overseas should compensate some.

They have Boss Baby repeating at #1 with $28M, and BatB taking in another $25M.

They also have Ghost in the Shell dropping 60% to $7.5M and Power Rangers dropping 55% to $6.4M.

$6.4M for Power Rangers this weekend would basically kill any lingering chance at $100M domestic. With Fate of the Furious coming the following week, $90-95M would be more likely.


EDIT: Variety is saying $15-16M for Smurfs. Zach Braff's latest, Going in Style, is expected to land around $8M. The Case for Christ has a $5M forecast.

 

[BumRush]

It's $23M past Age of Ultron and easily making more on a daily basis. BatB needs to finish $41M ahead of AoU to hit $500M. I think it gets there. There's only one major film in April, and Disney will start sticking it in Drive-in double features when Guardians and Pirates come out if it is close.

Beating TDK or Rogue One domestically is unlikely now though. It will setting at the #8 of all time spot. Good for 16-30 months in the domestic top 10

Okay cool, thank you

 

[twinturbo2]

Boxoffice.com recently posted their weekend predictions, and they are expecting Smurfs to flop domestically with $14.5M. The film is releasing over 3600 venues. Another feather in the Sony cap. At least the production budget estimate was only $60M. Overseas should compensate some.

They have Boss Baby repeating at #1 with $28M, and BatB taking in another $25M.

They also have Ghost in the Shell dropping 60% to $7.5M and Power Rangers dropping 55% to $6.4M.

$6.4M for Power Rangers this weekend would basically kill any lingering chance at $100M domestic. With Fate of the Furious coming the following week, $90-95M would be more likely.


EDIT: Variety is saying $15-16M for Smurfs. Zach Braff's latest, Going in Style, is expected to land around $8M. The Case for Christ has a $5M forecast.

Deadline is reporting that Ghost on the Shell will get a $60 million write down, minimum. Their sources also suggest the budget was $180 million, not $110 million. If that's the case, then a $100 million loss is assured.

http://deadline.com/2017/04/ghost-i...hansson-box-office-flop-whitewash-1202061479/