Wkd BO 0408-1016 - Melissa (not Martha) puts end to Bats v Supes sausage fight
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Maybe, and hellll no.
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This is a parody, right? Like, I have to assume that with no link that you just pulled this out of your ass...
HomerSimpson-Man
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To be fair, this kinda holds true for all the blockbusters though now with Deadpool doing so well across all these metrics to get where it is. Fox is laughing all to the bank, and Deadpool is essentially giving the middle finger to Tom Rothman who's now heading Sony Pictures.
This is a parody right?
illmatic22
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Yes folks, that's a parody.
Mr. Pointy
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Having a slack year like this is probably why Jurassic World 2 got pushed to 2018.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
illmatic22
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Barbershop 3 is getting solid reviews. I might have to check that out.
Quit playin' Bobby. You wrote this shit right? Trying to pull one over on us!
EDIT: Oh thank god.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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So pretty much top 5 guaranteed and a shot at number 2? Goddamn.
Edit: Side note, holy shit, TFA had the best legs of the top 30 openings?
RBelong2Us
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So a 1.3 billion increase from Winter Soldier? Lol
I mean yeah it's got a ton of Marvel characters in it but that's just too staggering of an increase.
I mean yeah it's got a ton of Marvel characters in it but that's just too staggering of an increase.
PhoncipleBone
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And we know Civil War isn't going to touch TFA opening weekend numbers, but will it have a run at being second?
Winter Soldier had an insane increase over First Avenger. But yes, that is too staggering.
Winter Soldier had an insane increase over First Avenger. But yes, that is too staggering.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Movie just needs to only hit $1 billion and RDJ is going to get a mad payday.
RBelong2Us
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The quality of film was also huge plus Winter Soldier followed Avengers.
crazy monkey
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1.2 billion max.
What the hell does he even do with all that money
This was the real Avengers sequel!
RBelong2Us
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Kiss Kiss , Bang Bang changed that dudes career around big time .
Hasphat'sAnts
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Downey is front and center in the promos for this movie. Let's just call it what it is: Avengers 2.5.
First Avenger and Winter Soldier aren't analogous at all anymore.
First Avenger and Winter Soldier aren't analogous at all anymore.
Bobby Roberts
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I sorta feel like trying to judge it as a sequel to Captain America isn't the best choice in measuring stick.
Nobody seems to be thinking of this as a Captain America movie. It's an Avengers movie. They don't really care what the title is.
Nobody seems to be thinking of this as a Captain America movie. It's an Avengers movie. They don't really care what the title is.
PhoncipleBone
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It is the Avengers 2 we should have gotten instead of Age of Ultron then? Ultron was just a pit stop to get to here?
Bobby Roberts
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I remember people saying something along those lines shortly after it was announced Cap 3 would be Civil War. Like, they hadn't even seen frame one of footage and were like "There we go"
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Ultron's levels of whelm ranging from "mildly under" to "just about whelmed" is helping Civil War a little bit. People seem reeeady to go with this one like I don't remember them being for Ultron. Granted, that one had Hulk vs Hulkbuster, but this is on another level.
Plus, yunno, Spider-Man.
All that, and I just think trying to map out its box-office prospects by looking at it solely as a Captain America sequel is probably shortchanging it. Nobody gives a shit about its title. Captain America might as well be a series of wingdings or aurabesh or whatever. Runes & glyphs. The words CIVIL WAR are all anyone's checking for.
It's an Avengers movie.
PhoncipleBone
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A Cap film in name only then?
I was really jazzed for Ultron before it hit, mainly because he was one of my favorite Avengers villains ever, and it was Whedon following up Avengers which worked a hell of a lot better than I expected. The first Avengers really took me by surprise because I am not a big Whedon fan, and he delivered big time with that.
And then Age of Ultron came along, and it was more Whedonesque than the first film, for better or worse. I was very disappointed in Age of Ultron.
I watched it the other week for the first time since opening night in theaters, and I am still disappointed in it. It isn't a bad movie, it is just okay.
And with Civil War, I despised the comic series, but knowing it was coming from the creative team behind Winter Soldier gave me hope. They could rectify the issues that the comic had and actually deliver something better that would handle the ideas in the comic much better.
Thankfully the reviews are lining up with that, and increasing my hype for it.
I was really jazzed for Ultron before it hit, mainly because he was one of my favorite Avengers villains ever, and it was Whedon following up Avengers which worked a hell of a lot better than I expected. The first Avengers really took me by surprise because I am not a big Whedon fan, and he delivered big time with that.
And then Age of Ultron came along, and it was more Whedonesque than the first film, for better or worse. I was very disappointed in Age of Ultron.
I watched it the other week for the first time since opening night in theaters, and I am still disappointed in it. It isn't a bad movie, it is just okay.
And with Civil War, I despised the comic series, but knowing it was coming from the creative team behind Winter Soldier gave me hope. They could rectify the issues that the comic had and actually deliver something better that would handle the ideas in the comic much better.
Thankfully the reviews are lining up with that, and increasing my hype for it.
I think there are two different thins going on. As a film, those who have seen it all seem to agree that it is a Captain America movie. Featuring the Avengers. But what the movie is, and how general audiences perceive it as they decide what to watch, are not always the same thing. The fact that it has pretty much all the Avengers in it is going to be a huge draw, more so than it being a Captain America film.
PhoncipleBone
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Yet, in the end, it is still Cap leading the charge. Everyone plays support to him. And I love that.
Green Embers
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I agree with Bobby, this really feels more like an Avenger's film than a Captain America. I think the marketing for this is pretty ingenious by doing the #teamcap #teamironman. It gets people invested in the movie and helps drive interest in social media. So yeah, I can see it opening big. Maybe not 220 big, but 190 to 200.
Bobby Roberts
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I'm only talking about public perception, not the actual content of the film. The film is, by all accounts, a Cap film primarily. There's a ton of characters all bouncing off each other, but it appears that Steve is (by a pretty easy margin) the main character. He's this film's lead.
But so far as the appeal of this film, the way it's been marketed, and the way it seems its being recieved? It's an Avengers film. With Spider-Man in it. I think that's the measuring stick you've gotta use. They've got it in the "First week of Summer Movie Season" slot, they've got everyone in the goddamn thing, they've got everyone fighting each other, and they have one of the three most recognizable superheroes of all time in the mix on top of that.
While I'm talking about feelings & hunches (because I think Civil War is going to blow the fuck up around the 185-195 opening weekend level conservatively) I really do think Jungle Book is going to hit like a ton of bricks this weekend. It seems to be striking the right notes at just the right time. It's kinda feeling like the really rapid buildup from "I might check that out" to "I have to see it this Saturday" that we saw last year with Jurassic World.
I'm not saying it'll open to THAT level, hell no. But I do think it's got a shot at clearing 85. Which would be pretty nuts, considering.
Maybe I'm just getting optimistic in my old age.
(except for whatever it was that happened with Batman v Superman. There was no optimism there)
AquaWateria
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Honestly it most likely won't beat Star Wars record.
Although I wouldn't mind if it did just to see meltdowns over Star Wars getting beaten.
Although I wouldn't mind if it did just to see meltdowns over Star Wars getting beaten.
Bobby Roberts
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Nothing's doing that for a very long while. The circumstances there are going to be very hard to replicate anytime soon, starting with the fact nobody's planning on running all-day showtimes for 48-72 hours on opening weekend for Civil War.
broncobuster
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I imagine Civil War will have long legs. In my opinion the film hits all the right notes to get audiences to see it again and again. Passing Star Wars TFA is a tall order. Passing Avengers 1? passing Jurassic World? Wouldn't be surprised anymore.
PhoncipleBone
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Oh, I knew you were meaning just in public perception. Sorry if it came across differently in my post.
And yeah, Spider-Man is the wild card right now. They have shown so little about him, yet he seems to be the thing talked about most. Everyone seems excited about him getting into the MCU and wanting to see him interact with everyone.
They will come for Spidey, but I think the buzz for Black Panther will be close to the same level after the movie hits. Mainly because not as many people know what to expect with him, while most have a baseline for how Spidey should be.
Bobby Roberts
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Civil War doing 190-200 opening weekend? I can see that.
Civil War doing 250?
That's not on the table. That's not even in the pantry to be put on the table later.
Yeah, it really does seem like, on top of the overall quality of the film, there's just so many hooks that can and will cause repeat viewings. Again, maybe not to the level that Force Awakens got (I think the 4th weekend was something like 60% repeat viewers), but there are going to be a lot of people who go back to this thing just to spend more time with some of these characters. Spidey, T'Challa, Scott.
Civil War doing 250?
That's not on the table. That's not even in the pantry to be put on the table later.
Yeah, it really does seem like, on top of the overall quality of the film, there's just so many hooks that can and will cause repeat viewings. Again, maybe not to the level that Force Awakens got (I think the 4th weekend was something like 60% repeat viewers), but there are going to be a lot of people who go back to this thing just to spend more time with some of these characters. Spidey, T'Challa, Scott.
PhoncipleBone
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Yeah, nothing is hitting TFA weekend anytime soon. But I could see the #2 slot being in contention if the stars align.
MHWilliams
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Nah. $200 million probably. Above Age of Ultron, below the Avengers. But I think it'll have strong legs. $1.3 billion is my "success" mark. Above Iron Man 3.
Bobby Roberts
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I also don't think if/when 250 gets crossed way down the line that you'll see "meltdowns." You'll probably see people tripping out though. Because that's an amazing fuckin' number.
Jimmy King
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Was Cap 3 always supposed to be like this?
I recall in the promotion for The Judge RDJ was clearly trying to use the press for leverage in negotiating with Marvel, saying he might be done. Then that movie's box office opening must've humbled the fuck out of him and literally the next week they signed a new deal and announced him for Cap 3. Or am I missing something?
I recall in the promotion for The Judge RDJ was clearly trying to use the press for leverage in negotiating with Marvel, saying he might be done. Then that movie's box office opening must've humbled the fuck out of him and literally the next week they signed a new deal and announced him for Cap 3. Or am I missing something?
AquaWateria
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I feel like Civil War will beat out Avengers.
Heck I could be wrong but I just have this feeling.
Heck I could be wrong but I just have this feeling.
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