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Wkd BO 05•26-28•17 - Rock in bay can't stop Pirates or Guardians, Alien sinks tho

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Boke1879

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Lord Frieza said:
And people liked i...oh right, we can't believe that. Nevermind.
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Nope. I agree. I think more people liked it than people would like to admit. It wasn't the best movie by any means, but the plot was simple enough and it was easy to follow. It was also entertaining.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

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Cooter said:
I hope so. With fantastic legs and let's assume 105 OW is it possible?
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It would require a 3.09 multiplier off of that, which is very high for a comic book film.

kswiston said:
Here's a list of all post-2000 superhero films meeting two criteria: A) they were based on a pre-existing comicbook, and B) they opened to at least $10M domestic

Code: 
RANK	TITLE					DOM TOTAL	DOM OW		RELEASE DATE	OW MULT
1	Batman Begins*				$206,852,432 	$48,745,440 	6/15/2005	4.24x
2	Spider-Man 2*				$373,585,825 	$88,156,227 	6/30/2004	4.24x
3	The Amazing Spider-Man**		$262,030,663 	$62,004,688 	7/3/2012	4.23x
4	Superman Returns*			$200,081,192 	$52,535,096 	6/28/2006	3.81x
5	Guardians of the Galaxy			$333,176,600 	$94,320,883 	8/1/2014	3.53x
6	Spider-Man				$403,706,375 	$114,844,116 	5/3/2002	3.52x
7	The Dark Knight				$534,858,444 	$158,411,483 	7/18/2008	3.38x
8	Blade: Trinity*				$52,411,906 	$16,061,271 	12/8/2004	3.26x
9	Iron Man				$318,412,101 	$98,618,668 	5/2/2008	3.23x
10	Ant-Man					$180,202,163 	$57,225,526 	7/17/2015	3.15x
11	Marvel's The Avengers			$623,357,910 	$207,438,708 	5/4/2012	3.01x
12	The Green Hornet			$98,780,042 	$33,526,876 	1/14/2011	2.95x
13	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)	$191,204,754 	$65,575,105 	8/8/2014	2.92x
14	X-Men					$157,299,717 	$54,471,475 	7/14/2000	2.89x
15	The Dark Knight Rises			$448,139,099 	$160,887,295 	7/20/2012	2.79x
16	Fantastic Four (2005)			$154,696,080 	$56,061,504 	7/8/2005	2.76x
17	Thor					$181,030,624 	$65,723,338 	5/6/2011	2.75x
18	Deadpool				$363,070,709 	$132,434,639 	2/12/2016	2.74x
19	Doctor Strange				$232,641,920 	$85,058,311 	11/4/2016	2.74x
20	Captain America: The Winter Soldier	$259,766,572 	$95,023,721 	4/4/2014	2.73x
21	Captain America: The First Avenger	$176,654,505 	$65,058,524 	7/22/2011	2.72x
22	X-Men: First Class			$146,408,305 	$55,101,604 	6/3/2011	2.66x
23	X-Men: Days of Future Past		$233,921,534 	$90,823,660 	5/23/2014	2.58x
24	Hellboy					$59,623,958 	$23,172,440 	4/2/2004	2.57x
25	Logan					$226,122,357 	$88,411,916 	3/3/2017	2.56x
26	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2^		$375,000,000 	$146,510,104 	5/5/2017	2.56x
27	Ghost Rider				$115,802,596 	$45,388,836 	2/16/2007	2.55x
28	Daredevil				$102,543,518 	$40,310,419 	2/14/2003	2.54x
29	Blade II				$82,348,319 	$32,528,016 	3/22/2002	2.53x
30	X2: X-Men United			$214,949,694 	$85,558,731 	5/2/2003	2.51x
31	The Wolverine				$132,556,852 	$53,113,752 	7/26/2013	2.50x
32	Man of Steel				$291,045,518 	$116,619,362 	6/14/2013	2.50x
33	The Punisher				$33,810,189 	$13,834,527 	4/16/2004	2.44x
34	Iron Man 2				$312,433,331 	$128,122,480 	5/7/2010	2.44x
35	The Incredible Hulk			$134,806,913 	$55,414,050 	6/13/2008	2.43x
36	Suicide Squad				$325,100,054 	$133,682,248 	8/5/2016	2.43x
37	Kick-Ass				$48,071,303 	$19,828,687 	4/16/2010	2.42x
38	Thor: The Dark World			$206,362,140 	$85,737,841 	11/8/2013	2.41x
39	Catwoman				$40,202,379 	$16,728,411 	7/23/2004	2.40x
40	Avengers: Age of Ultron			$459,005,868 	$191,271,109 	5/1/2015	2.40x
41	X-Men: Apocalypse			$155,442,489 	$65,769,562 	5/27/2016	2.36x
42	Iron Man 3				$409,013,994 	$174,144,585 	5/3/2013	2.35x
43	Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance	$51,774,002 	$22,115,334 	2/17/2012	2.34x
44	TMNT: Out of the Shadows		$82,051,601 	$35,316,382 	6/3/2016	2.32x
45	X-Men: The Last Stand			$234,362,462 	$102,750,665 	5/26/2006	2.28x
46	Captain America: Civil War		$408,084,349 	$179,139,142 	5/6/2016	2.28x
47	Fantastic Four: Rise of the SS		$131,921,738 	$58,051,684 	6/15/2007	2.27x
48	Spider-Man 3				$336,530,303 	$151,116,516 	5/4/2007	2.23x
49	The Amazing Spider-Man 2		$202,853,933 	$91,608,337 	5/2/2014	2.21x
50	Hellboy II: The Golden Army		$75,986,503 	$34,539,115 	7/11/2008	2.20x
51	Green Lantern				$116,601,172 	$53,174,303 	6/17/2011	2.19x
52	Fantastic Four				$56,117,548 	$25,685,737 	8/7/2015	2.18x
53	Kick-Ass 2				$28,795,985 	$13,332,955 	8/16/2013	2.16x
54	Hulk					$132,177,234 	$62,128,420 	6/20/2003	2.13x
55	Power Rangers (2017)			$85,334,791 	$40,300,288 	3/24/2017	2.12x
56	X-Men Origins: Wolverine		$179,883,157 	$85,058,003 	5/1/2009	2.11x
57	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	$330,360,194 	$166,007,347 	3/25/2016	1.99x
58	Watchmen				$107,509,799 	$55,214,334 	3/6/2009	1.95x
59	Elektra					$24,409,722 	$12,804,793 	1/14/2005	1.91x
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								AVERAGE	(for 3-day openings)	2.55x

NOTES:
* Opened on a Wednesday
** Opened on a Tuesday
^ Estimated domestic total
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Wonder Woman does have an advantage of summer weekdays compared to a lot of the films on this list, and WOM does seem very strong based on what we can see. It will still not be easy for it to achieve that kind of multiplier, though. If the second weekend drop is 55% or less and this weekend ends up being around $105M, we can probably start seriously discussing the possibility of WW beating Suicide Squad.
 
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Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
It would require a 3.09 multiplier off of that, which is very high for a comic book film.



Wonder Woman does have an advantage of summer weekdays compared to a lot of the films on this list, and WOM does seem very strong based on what we can see. It will still not be easy for it to achieve that kind of multiplier, though. If the second weekend drop is 55% or less and this weekend ends up being around $105M, we can probably start seriously discussing the possibility of WW beating Suicide Squad.
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Looking at that list of 3+ multipliers I think it has a respectable shot but it's definitely an uphill battle.
 
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kswiston

Member
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
It would require a 3.09 multiplier off of that, which is very high for a comic book film.



Wonder Woman does have an advantage of summer weekdays compared to a lot of the films on this list, and WOM does seem very strong based on what we can see. It will still not be easy for it to achieve that kind of multiplier, though. If the second weekend drop is 55% or less and this weekend ends up being around $105M, we can probably start seriously discussing the possibility of WW beating Suicide Squad.
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Ignoring the fact that $105M is going to require a great Saturday bump, I think that a 55% second weekend drop is already too high. Unlike Guardians or TDK, this Wonder Woman doesn't have a clear path in coming weeks. July 4th weekend is also too far away to be much of a bump.

Cooter said:
Looking at that list of 3+ multipliers I think it has a respectable shot but it's definitely an uphill battle.
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Ignore the first four entries and Blade Trinity. Batman Begins probably could have managed a 3x multi with a Friday start, but the rest would have missed the mark.
 
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Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
BronsonLee said:
I want this movie to go on some Titanic shit and inexplicably make like a billion dollars
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lol Titanic was insane. Not seeing that but with the strong female numbers being reported WW does have a unique situation surrounding it.
 
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broncobuster

Banned
BronsonLee said:
I want this movie to go on some Titanic shit and inexplicably make like a billion dollars
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It'd be cool but should it top The Mummy (decent chance of it) you got Cars 3 the week after and Transformers 5 after that. And finally, the biggest success of 2017 that will take down Avatar: Baby Driver.
 
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kswiston

Member
The stronger female turnout will be interesting, since Fangirl films tend to actually have pretty poor legs. We'll have a better idea of how that is looking tonight if Rth is around, or if Deadline does a rare Saturday update.

The Thursday preview loading on Friday's take doesn't look too bad, but I have no idea how much Basketball messed that up.

broncobuster said:
It'd be cool but should it top The Mummy (decent chance of it) you got Cars 3 the week after and Transformers 5 after that. And finally, the biggest success of 2017 that will take down Avatar: Baby Driver.
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Even if Wonder Woman has regular superhero legs, it has a pretty good chance at topping The Mummy. If the Mummy tanks in reviews, even BvS legs could be enough to do the job.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

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kswiston said:
Ignoring the fact that $105M is going to require a great Saturday bump, I think that a 55% second weekend drop is already too high. Unlike Guardians or TDK, this Wonder Woman doesn't have a clear path in coming weeks. July 4th weekend is also too far away to be much of a bump.
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Well, that's why we seriously discuss it versus consider it a certainty. :p If Wonder Woman's second weekend can top Suicide Squad's ($43.5M), then it can begin to make up ground on the film and do so fairly quickly if it starts to hold better.

Competition is the bigger problem, and probably why I'd be most hesitant to call it topping Suicide Squad even if the 2nd weekend drop was only 50%. But if the film's audience continues skewing female, that may help the late legs. See Twilight 1, Hunger Games, Maleficent, etc. (but don't look at Fifty Shades)

BronsonLee said:
I want this movie to go on some Titanic shit and inexplicably make like a billion dollars
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You want the backlash
perpetuated by me
to start so soon?
 
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kswiston

Member
Slayven said:
Bet you won't say it to my face
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I like to imagine that Bronson has the powers of Butterball.

Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
But if the film's audience continues skewing female, that may help the late legs. See Twilight 1, Hunger Games, Maleficent, etc. (but don't look at Fifty Shades)
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I think that Maleficent was much more of a family film than any of the superhero films are, hence the legs. There may not be a drop of blood, but Wonder Woman earns the PG-13.

As for the rest, WW would need better legs than that to hit Suicide Squad. I think that Man of Steel is the optimistic target for now.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

Member
I was imagining Butterbean, but Butterball works.
kswiston said:
I like to imagine that Bronson has the powers of Butterball.



I think that Maleficent was much more of a family film than any of the superhero films are, hence the legs. There may not be a drop of blood, but Wonder Woman earns the PG-13.

As for the rest, WW would need better legs than that to hit Suicide Squad. I think that Man of Steel is the optimistic target for now.
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I actually had to look up and check that Maleficent was PG. I swear that was waaaaay too violent to not warrant a PG-13.

It was also incredibly boring with Sharlto Copley's worst performance.
 
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kswiston

Member
I have a cross country move at the end of July, so it's personally for the best that August is pretty light. Those will be some boring box office weeks though.

As for the rest of the summer, I have plans for seeing Baby Driver and Dunkirk. I am sure I will see Spider-man, since my wife likes Marvel films. Beyond those, I am not sure. I will likely end up going to random family films with my daughter, but most of those are pretty spontaneous.
 
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Anth0ny

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Anecdotal of course, but I saw a ton of women and young girls at the WW 4:15 screening today, the most I've ever seen for a superhero movie for sure. Both adults, teens, and a surprising amount of kids who looked under 10.

I do think there's potential for some big time legs for this film as the word of mouth gets out and an audience that wouldn't usually check out a superhero movie decide to check it out.

It's the Ronda rousey factor. Her UFC pay per views used to do MASSIVE business with women, and they couldn't give a fuck about any other UFC show. But with a woman kicking ass, that changes.

We'll see.
 
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BumRush

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Cooter said:
Yup. Really liked it. Movie with a huge heart and Gal sticks the landing. Not perfect but highly enjoyable.
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Best DCEU yet?

kswiston said:
I have a cross country move at the end of July, so it's personally for the best that August is pretty light. Those will be some boring box office weeks though.

As for the rest of the summer, I have plans for seeing Baby Driver and Dunkirk. I am sure I will see Spider-man, since my wife likes Marvel films. Beyond those, I am not sure. I will likely end up going to random family films with my daughter, but most of those are pretty spontaneous.
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Where you moving to??
 
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kswiston

Member
Discotheque said:
welcome. shitty roads, winter half a year, my presence, disappointing hockey team. welcome to hell....

city development is progressing pretty well though in the downtown area, and the culinary and art side of things improves every year
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For some reason, I thought you were in the UK.

I lived for about a year in Quebec City and my French is atrocious. Can't be worse than that.
 
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Linkura

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Anth0ny said:
Anecdotal of course, but I saw a ton of women and young girls at the WW 4:15 screening today, the most I've ever seen for a superhero movie for sure. Both adults, teens, and a surprising amount of kids who looked under 10.

I do think there's potential for some big time legs for this film as the word of mouth gets out and an audience that wouldn't usually check out a superhero movie decide to check it out.

It's the Ronda rousey factor. Her UFC pay per views used to do MASSIVE business with women, and they couldn't give a fuck about any other UFC show. But with a woman kicking ass, that changes.

We'll see.
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Fuck, even my husband is interested and he's never interested in superhero movies.
 
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Chamber

love on your sleeve
this_guy said:
Gal Gadot is a great Wonder Woman.

....remember when there were people wanting Ronda Rousey to be Wonder Woman?
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Only Ronda Rousey wanted to see Ronda Rousey as Wonder Woman. The Gina Carano idea was pretty popular among the goofs though.
 
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BumRush

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Cooter said:
Yeah, I'd say so and I'm even one of those weirdo outliers who really liked BvS.
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I enjoyed BvS but thought Eisenberg was the worst comic book villain in a long time which really detracted from the movie as a whole.

Super excited to see WW this week.
 
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firelogic

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What is going on in this thread? I'm hearing crazy talk like the Batman suit is bad and Bale Batman is better than Batfleck when that's just ludicrous because Nolan's Batman wasn't even Batman. It was just some regular Joe wearing a batsuit. He didn't display any Batman qualities. And Amell for Green Arrow in the DCEU? Madness!

Wonder Woman was great btw.
 
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3N16MA

Banned
this_guy said:
Gal Gadot is a great Wonder Woman.

....remember when there were people wanting Ronda Rousey to be Wonder Woman?
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Rousey: "They're making a Wonder Woman right now, aren't they? I should have been Wonder Woman. That girl couldn't curl a two-pound weight. What's so wonderful about that? I don't understand."

Salty.
 
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kswiston

Member
Rth is saying $35M for Wonder Woman today.

EDIT: A 25% drop on Sunday gives $100.2M for the weekend. So if the $35M holds, I would bet that $100M is WB's OW estimate.

3N16MA said:
At least you're getting further away from Bronson.
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Canada naturally repels him
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

Banned
firelogic said:
What is going on in this thread? I'm hearing crazy talk like the Batman suit is bad and Bale Batman is better than Batfleck when that's just ludicrous because Nolan's Batman wasn't even Batman. It was just some regular Joe wearing a batsuit. He didn't display any Batman qualities. And Amell for Green Arrow in the DCEU? Madness!

Wonder Woman was great btw.
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Bale in Begins = GOAT live action Bats.
 
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kswiston

Member
BeatnikGunsoo said:
Is captain underpants costing 38 million to make the smartest budgeted film this year so far?
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When compared to what is typical of Dreamworks it is. Obviously stuff like Get Out have it beat.

You can tell the Capt Underpants is on the cheaper side. They even make a joke about it at the climax of the film.
 
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Discotheque

Banned
SCULLIBUNDO said:
Bale in Begins = GOAT live action Bats.
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I think Bale is far and away the best Bruce. But just in terms of fighting skills and being as intimidating as he should be Batfleck is the GOAT batman for live action. I also think he has the best suit.

although the dark knight swat scene is still tops for me (despite me enjoying the fighting in BvS more). that TDK theme blaring triumphantly as batman juggles swat and the bad guys was awesome.
 
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Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
kswiston said:
Rth is saying $35M for Wonder Woman today.

EDIT: A 25% drop on Sunday gives $100.2M for the weekend. So if the $35M holds, I would bet that $100M is WB's OW estimate.



Canada naturally repels him
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Is that 35M good?
 
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broncobuster

Banned
Conceptually that swat scene in TDK is more interesting than the BvS warehouse. Batman trying to take out Joker goons while preventing swat from killing hostages. Prep time Bats setting traps between punches. Ending it by roping up the swat team and dangling them of the edge. But the choreography of the BvS scene is so damn good, even if it's just Batman beating down a bunch of goons in a warehouse. That TDK scene with the action of BvS would be something else.
 
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