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Wkd BO 05•26-28•17 - Rock in bay can't stop Pirates or Guardians, Alien sinks tho

ZeoVGM

Banned
Well let's see how much WW's quality affects legs and JL.

If Wonder Woman does great at the box office and Justice League turns out to be as awful as the pre-Wonder Woman DCEU movies, that could be one of the most interesting movies to watch, financially, in a long time.

I have no doubt that BvS would have made $1b if not for the terrible word of mouth.
 
$28M overseas on Friday. $12M of that in China.

Ww total is $86M as of Friday. It should crack $200M this weekend.

Praise the Source.
Looks like it might pass 600 million worldwide after all, glad I was wrong.

If Wonder Woman does great at the box office and Justice League turns out to be as awful as the pre-Wonder Woman DCEU movies, that could be one of the most interesting movies to watch, financially, in a long time.

I have no doubt that BvS would have made $1b if not for the terrible word of mouth.

I wonder how mainstream audiences will perceive JL: as a brand new chapter in the ongoing DCEU saga or as BvS part 2?
It could do anywhere from slightly less than BvS to a billion depending on marketing and word of mouth.
 

Boke1879

Member
If Wonder Woman does great at the box office and Justice League turns out to be as awful as the pre-Wonder Woman DCEU movies, that could be one of the most interesting movies to watch, financially, in a long time.

I have no doubt that BvS would have made $1b if not for the terrible word of mouth.

I think JL is going to make bank regardless so I'm wondering how we are even going to be able to gauge how much of an impact WW has on that.
 

Penguin

Member
Not a HUGE mountain to climb, but with opening day Wonder Woman has surpassed all but Catwoman for female-led comic movies

And by the end of the weekend will be in the Top 20 for female action movies.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
I think JL is going to make bank regardless so I'm wondering how we are even going to be able to gauge how much of an impact WW has on that.

I'm sure it will. But again, BvS disappointed at the box office. Batman and Superman, together in a movie for the first time, should be a given to hit $1b. It didn't even hit $900m and that's because it was a terrible movie and the word of mouth hurt it.
 
WW impact on JL will depend entirely on how Wonder Woman is represented in the Marketing. Let's be honest, audiences aren't clamoring to see more of Batfleck and Superman is nowhere to be seen.

She's basically the lead for the movie as far as I'm concerned.
 

Penguin

Member
WW impact on JL will depend entirely on how Wonder Woman is represented in the Marketing. Let's be honest, audiences aren't clamoring to see more of Batfleck and Superman is nowhere to be seen.

She's basically the lead for the movie.

Aren't they?

I mean Batman and Wonder Woman were constantly pointed out as the best parts of the movie. And Batman is still a very hot character
 
Aren't they?

I mean Batman and Wonder Woman were constantly pointed out as the best parts of the movie. And Batman is still a very hot character
Best parts? I mean WW had a small role until the ending battle. Not a lot of time to develop the character. And Snyder's Batfleck was one of the reasons the movie sucked. His motivations and actions were completely out of character for Batman.

Edit: I should add I think Ben Affleck can do great things with Batman if given reign over him. But Snyder is the one in charge so I don't see that happening till the solo movie.
 

Loxley

Member
Best parts? I mean WW had a small role until the ending battle. Not a lot of time to develop the character. And Snyder's Batfleck was one of the reasons the movie sucked.

Anecdotal, but outside of GAF I have yet to talk to a anybody who didn't think Affleck's Batman was awesome, or at least the best aspect of BVS.

Besides, it's Batman, audiences are almost always hungry for more Batman.
 

Boke1879

Member
WW impact on JL will depend entirely on how Wonder Woman is represented in the Marketing. Let's be honest, audiences aren't clamoring to see more of Batfleck and Superman is nowhere to be seen.

She's basically the lead for the movie as far as I'm concerned.

I think most people were content/ok with Ben as Batman.

Imo JL is going to make bank simply because people will be seeing the League on screen together. Not saying WW won't be a main draw. Everyone has their favorites. But I think it's a bit premature to say she's the main character. When she's sharing it with several others.
 
It should be considered an actual crime against humanity that Suicide Squad earned more money than Wonder Woman will. I usually always side with "the mass market decides what's worthy" but this is one case where one film is such insanely higher quality compared to the other in every metric it's painful to see.
 
It should be considered an actual crime against humanity that Suicide Squad earned more money than Wonder Woman will. I usually always side with "the mass market decides what's worthy" but this is one case where one film is such insanely higher quality compared to the other in every metric it's painful to see.

Marketing, bruh

Those Squad trailers hit real big
 

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Upside, inside out he's livin la vida loca, He'll push and pull you down, livin la vida loca
Great to see WW doing such numbers, although I would've liked to see it doing even better. Let's hope it has good legs as well.

Also, totally random but was checking stuff in BOM and realized that with Beauty and the Beast and Ep VIII releasing this year, we are just one movie short of the domestic Top 10 being $500M+ exclusive.
For comparison, it became $100M+ exclusive around 1973, $200M+ in 1989, $300M+ in 2002, and $400M+ in 2010.

Does Guardians have good legs, or just over all shit is down
Good legs, nowhere near as amazing as the legs of the first one, but still good.

Both. Guardians is legging better than Civil War and Age of Ultron but also everything else is doing poorly
CW had terrible legs though, which makes the joke about Cap's legs in the movie quite funny in retrospect.

How about instead of bitching about critics doing their jobs you just, oh I don't know, make better films? And WoM does a far better job of killing a film's BO than any critic. What's Hollywood gonna do? Make opening weekend audiences sign a NDA?
I mean, in a way I understand what they mean. A site like RT aggregates all reviews from the internet and such, and there are some pretty terrible reviewers out there (plenty that do clickbait-y reviews just for that or to be the dissenting voice or whatever). Also some times reviews where the text is positive are counted as rotten (or the opposite), so that can be seen as somewhat weird.
I still think that the issue is not the critics, but rather people don't seem to understand how that percentage works (like with Netflix stars).

Vol 2 having better legs than Civil War-AOU likely is because of shit rivals.
It's also a better movie than either, that tends to help.

It warms my heart that the fake alien movie is sinking like The Rock.
FTFY

Pretty sure international ww will be pirates until Spiderman or Transformers5. Wonder Woman,Baywatch etc could perform good on america but not overseas enough to beat pirates me thinks. Didnt see ww early screenings but my friends who did on 24 say pirates was more fun. Its so nice to get a good movie after stranger tides and ends of world
I mean, if you are going to be stanning hard for PotC, at least get the movies' names right.

That quick, damn
Yeah, but seems to be norm now at least for Disney stuff. Civil War, Jungle Book, Doc Strange, Rogue One were released relatively fast too.

Yeah. Split, Get Out, and Logan all came out on DVD/Blu Ray pretty quickly.
Which is a shame in the case of Get Out, since its international roll out just started and there are already good quality alternatives, which will surely impact its OS take :(

Nah

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They did use him in Teen Titans: The Judas Contract that was released recently, so there is precedence.

But the Guardians were already incredibly interesting and unique characters with a gimmick that made them different from the rest of the MCU without any changes needing to be made. I'm not sure that's the best example.

I'd love to be proven wrong, I'm just waiting for some examples. She-Hulk would be great but I personally would rather see a half-comedic Netflix show for her that focuses on the lawyer aspect of the character.
I love GotG, both the comics and movies. The movies actually changed *everything* about the characters and everything else really, so they could do the same with any female character that they have access to in order to make it work (which is the point I think Slay was trying to make).
Also, Marvel Studios' best female characters are on TV, they could take a note or two on that.

God damnit, Sony owns Jessica Drew? Don't fucking waste Spider-Woman on that movie... not unless it's going to be part of the MCU and Marvel themselves are involved.

Hell, even Agents of SHIELD would be a better use of her.
That brings me back to the days when everyone thought Skye was her.

They'll announce $100M for WW tomorrow even if the actuals are more likely to come in around 98. Regardless, Wonder Woman 2 is going to have a release date set pretty quickly.

And Mummy is going to bomb hard, brehs.
They did announce higher estimates for BvS than what the actuals were, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

WW impact on JL will depend entirely on how Wonder Woman is represented in the Marketing. Let's be honest, audiences aren't clamoring to see more of Batfleck and Superman is nowhere to be seen.

She's basically the lead for the movie as far as I'm concerned.
Given the reviews, and if the BO goes accordingly, they'd be smart to take that approach.

Anecdotal, but outside of GAF I have yet to talk to a anybody who didn't think Affleck's Batman was awesome, or at least the best aspect of BVS.

Besides, it's Batman, audiences are almost always hungry for more Batman.
Everyone I talked to about the movie, despite not liking it very much in general seemed to agree that WW and Batffleck were the best parts of it (personally I did really like the warehouse scene, even though he basically murdered everyone)

I think a case could be made for Rogue One, she was marketed and is the central figure of the movie.

Also Divergent totally counts
She's totally the main character of the movie, besides promotional materials she's pretty much the only one in the movie with a defined character and get's an arc.
 

Prompto

Banned
It should be considered an actual crime against humanity that Suicide Squad earned more money than Wonder Woman will. I usually always side with "the mass market decides what's worthy" but this is one case where one film is such insanely higher quality compared to the other in every metric it's painful to see.
Will Wonder Woman at least make more than Man of Steel?
 
I think probably not? Idk kswis would be the better one to ask but I think WW will do about 600 or so total. MOS is at 668 and I don't think WW will go that high.

It's really early though so who knows
Definitely depend on it's legs. There's been so much praise for it from critics and audiences so I'm optimistic it'll have great word of mouth.
 
Anecdotal, but outside of GAF I have yet to talk to a anybody who didn't think Affleck's Batman was awesome, or at least the best aspect of BVS.

Besides, it's Batman, audiences are almost always hungry for more Batman.

Batman was more jarring to me than emo Superman.

He was like The Dark Knight Returns Bruce Wayne but even more bloodthirsty.

The desert sequence gives me a headache to this day.
 
Batman was more jarring to me than emo Superman.

He was like The Dark Knight Returns Bruce Wayne but even more bloodthirsty.

The desert sequence gives me a headache to this day.

Which would be less like Dark Knight Returns and more between Dark Knight Strikes Again and All Star Batman.
 

Penguin

Member
Batman was more jarring to me than emo Superman.

He was like The Dark Knight Returns Bruce Wayne but even more bloodthirsty.

The desert sequence gives me a headache to this day.

I think the desert sequence gives everyone a headache... why was it in the movie, what did it do... will they even bother continuing with it
 
Seeing Pirates drop 74% brings a smile to my face.

Now, if only Transformers drops 80% in its second weekend...

I just know China will more than make up for it regardless :-(
 
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