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[Messofanego]

Baby Driver just doesn't want to go, haha! Good on The Big Sick and Girls' Trip for killing it as diverse comedies, too!

So many people must be eating crow on Dunkirk.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Given that it's still Sunday, and we're almost at 600 posts, I take it that we're going to cruise past 1k posts pretty easily again this week. Mostly on topic so far as well!


I took my daughter to see Despicable Me 3 yesterday because I needed to keep her out of the house while my wife did a garage sale to clear out some of the stuff we aren't bringing on the move.

I have not seen any of the other Despicable Me films, but this one was pretty terrible. Everything I dislike in children's films amped up to 11. My daughter thought it was great though. One of the few movies that she didn't ask me if it was over yet at least once. Go figure.

They have gotten progressively worse with each entry. One of my main problems is that the minions have kept on getting more and more screen time. I thought that with them getting their own movie that would mean they wouldn't need to keep being shoved onto the screen so much in the mainline entries but I was wrong there.

 

[3N16MA]

I watched maybe the first 5-10 minutes of Jupiter Ascending on Netflix before stopping it (can't remember why). It just sat there in continue watching and I ignored it. I'm pretty sure it has now left Canadian Netflix.

 

[Shauni]

I'd see the shit out of it if Raimi was directing and Marvel producing

Spider-Logan

There is a Spider-man kind of version of The End called Reign. In it Mary Jane has died because of prolonged exposure to his radioactive jizz and he imagines her corpse talking to him at one point. It's dying for the big screen

 

[Slayven]

There is a Spider-man kind of version of The End called Reign. In it Mary Jane has died because of prolonged exposure to his radioactive jizz and he imagines her corpse talking to him at one point. It's dying for the big screen

The spider jizz distracts from an awesome story

 

[Shauni]

The spider jizz distracts from an awesome story

It is an...okay story I would say. A strange, okay story.

 

[BronsonLee]

The landlord's daughter won out then

She didn't get Peter but she didn't die due to spideysex

 

[Shauni]

There's also a scene after where J. Johan has given Peter his mask back, and he fights a cop or something, and Spidey is standing there in just the mask and his underwear, and Johan asks him if Spider-Man is finally back, and then Spidey just punches him in the face and leaves sans dialogue.

Imagine that scene now with an aged Toby and a even more angry and dejected JK Simmons. Imagine it.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

The spider jizz distracts from an awesome story

Didn't Andrews flat out cop to remixing The Dark Knight Returns but for Spidey?

Down to mimicking the panel structure of specific pages?

 

[Spinluck]

Can anybody tell me why is Spider-Man underperforming so bad?

It's not.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

The landlord's daughter won out then

She didn't get Peter but she didn't die due to spideysex

But did the landlord ever get his rent?

 

[Very Berry Sunday]

I watched a bunch of movies this year: Lego Batman, John Wick 2, Logan, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Okja, War of the Planet of the Apes, Baby Driver, Dunkirk in IMAX 70mm. Might rewatch Dunkirk in IMAX 70mm next month.

What other movies are there left this year?

I will give Get Out a try in the near future.

 

[WarLox]

I wished more so called "black movies" would open worldwide. I can't wait to see what happens with black panther.

 

[WaffleTaco]

All of the Spider-Man talk of different Spider-Universes, has made me realized that Homecoming is not an interesting movie from a marketing standpoint. There is no real hook that ties it together other than it being another Spider-Man film. Any of those suggestions would have been more interesting than what we got with Homecoming.

I think the first two are smart movies relatively. I don't think the third one is. Combined with the fairly deceptive title, poor pacing in the second half and just generally not being remotely as good as either of the first two movies, to me it's fairly clear why it's not doing so well legs wise. It just isn't an interesting summer blockbuster to watch compared to the other stuff out there. Which is crazy for me to say because Dawn in theatres was fucking amazing. But I had dudes walk out in the second half of War like I've never seen before in my theater because so many people were bored.

War is more of an artsy, slow-style film than Dawn, which is calculated action movie, as where Rise is a typical summer sci-fi. People should learn to have patience when watching movies, but we barely can get adults to read a book, yet tolerate a decently written slow film. The War is about the human vs. human war, and while it's not what the audience was expecting, it's still a war.

However, I think it's defintley a step-down from Dawn, and maybe even Rise. One of the biggest reasons is that suspension of disbelief is ruined multiple times throughout the film. Another problem is that there is only one interesting plot point

Spoiler

human virus mutating

. Woody Harrelson also needs better development, as do the human characters. I would also the ending was underwhelming, and that I left leaving that movie unsatisfied.

 

[shintoki]

The issue with War was that it is 10 minutes longer than Dawn.

It should be 10 minutes shorter. Movie is nearly 2 and a half hours longer. It should of been 2 hours max.

 

[Krev]

I watched a bunch of movies this year: Lego Batman, John Wick 2, Logan, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Okja, War of the Planet of the Apes, Baby Driver, Dunkirk in IMAX 70mm. Might rewatch Dunkirk in IMAX 70mm next month.

What other movies are there left this year?

I will give Get Out a try in the near future.

Is the question really what other genre movies are there left?

All but two of those films can be summed up with 'super hero fights villains'.

 

[Messofanego]

I watched a bunch of movies this year: Lego Batman, John Wick 2, Logan, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Okja, War of the Planet of the Apes, Baby Driver, Dunkirk in IMAX 70mm. Might rewatch Dunkirk in IMAX 70mm next month.

What other movies are there left this year?

I will give Get Out a try in the near future.

Raw
Colossal
Prevenge
The Big Sick
Hidden Figures
My Life As A Courgette
In This Corner Of The World

 

[hodayathink]

All of the Spider-Man talk of different Spider-Universes, has made me realized that Homecoming is not an interesting movie from a marketing standpoint. There is no real hook that ties it together other than it being another Spider-Man film. Any of those suggestions would have been more interesting than what we got with Homecoming.

The hook is just Spider-Man in the MCU, and that hook is probably going to be enough for $300M domestic and $800M worldwide, which might actually be what Sony and Marvel were expecting.

Perlmutter's prediction in 2014 that he wrote Lynton - and Lynton forwarded to someone else - was 750MM for the 1st one, 1B for the 2nd, ad 1.25B for the 3rd.

 

[kswiston]

Is the question really what other genre movies are there left?

All but two of those films can be summed up with 'super hero fights villains'.

Which two out of Okja, Apes, Dunkirk, and Baby Driver are superhero fights villains?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Didn't Andrews flat out cop to remixing The Dark Knight Returns but for Spidey?

Down to mimicking the panel structure of specific pages?

He also flat out named two characters after the creative team for DKR.

 

[Black Republican]

i dont know if they were caught in the initial hype, but some of the reviewers calling Homecoming the best Spiderman movie had me like ehhhhhhhhhh

its a solid 7/10 film, but nothing outstanding

 

[Anth0ny]

i dont know if they were caught in the initial hype, but some of the reviewers calling Homecoming the best Spiderman movie had me like ehhhhhhhhhh

its a solid 7/10 film, but nothing outstanding

every superhero movie has reviewers coming out and saying "best since spider-man 2" or "best since dark knight". and it's never true.

the same was bound to happen with an actual new spider-man.

 

[Shauni]

Didn't Andrews flat out cop to remixing The Dark Knight Returns but for Spidey?

Down to mimicking the panel structure of specific pages?

Yeah, but that's what Marvel wanted him to do

 

[Very Berry Sunday]

Is the question really what other genre movies are there left?

All but two of those films can be summed up with 'super hero fights villains'.

Raw
Colossal
Prevenge
The Big Sick
Hidden Figures
My Life As A Courgette
In This Corner Of The World

I also meant what movies are left for the rest of 2017 besides The Last Jedi?

 

[Krev]

Which two out of Okja, Apes, Dunkirk, and Baby Driver are superhero fights villains?

Baby Driver. Apes is debatable, haven't seen it, so maybe all but three.

I out a space between super and hero for a reason. Baby is not a 'superhero' but he's a guy with special abilities who uses them to take on villains.

 

[Raziel]

I watched a bunch of movies this year: Lego Batman, John Wick 2, Logan, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Okja, War of the Planet of the Apes, Baby Driver, Dunkirk in IMAX 70mm. Might rewatch Dunkirk in IMAX 70mm next month.

What other movies are there left this year?

I will give Get Out a try in the near future.

Judging by your taste

Atomic Blonde
Dark Tower
It
Kingsman 2
Blade Runner 2
Thor 3
Justice League
Star Wars 8

 

[WaffleTaco]

The hook is just Spider-Man in the MCU, and that hook is probably going to be enough for $300M domestic and $800M worldwide, which might actually be what Sony and Marvel were expecting.

Eh, we had Spidey in the MCU with Civil War. He's just not that interesting of a character.

I also meant what movies are left for the rest of 2017 besides The Last Jedi?

The Emoji Movie
Atomic Blonde
The Dark Tower
Detroit
Nut Job 2
Annabelle 2
Hitman's Bodyguard
It
American Assassin
Kingsman 2
Lego Ninja Movie
Battle of the Sexes
Flatliners
American Made
Bladerunner 2049
My Little Pony
Jigsaw
Thor 3
A Bad Moms Christmas
Daddy's Home 2
Murder on the Orient Express
Justice League
Coco
Daddy's Home 2
Jumanji
Pitch Perfect 3

Edit: not counting random indie movies

 

[Slayven]

Didn't Andrews flat out cop to remixing The Dark Knight Returns but for Spidey?

Down to mimicking the panel structure of specific pages?

I don't know but one has the hypno hustler, and the other doesn't

 

[BronsonLee]

But did the landlord ever get his rent?

Depends on if he fixed the goddamn door

 

[kswiston]

Baby Driver. Apes is debatable, haven't seen it, so maybe all but three.

I out a space between super and hero for a reason. Baby is not a 'superhero' but he's a guy with special abilities who uses them to take on villains.

So is Kevin Mccallister by your definition.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

every superhero movie has reviewers coming out and saying "best since spider-man 2" or "best since dark knight". and it's never true.

the same was bound to happen with an actual new spider-man.

I could see Homecoming being better than either ASM

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

Eh, we had Spidey in the MCU with Civil War. He's just not that interesting of a character.

The Emoji Movie
Atomic Blonde
The Dark Tower
Detroit
Nut Job 2
Annabelle 2
Hitman's Bodyguard
It
American Assassin
Kingsman 2
Lego Ninja Movie
Battle of the Sexes
Flatliners
American Made
Bladerunner 2049
My Little Pony
Jigsaw
Thor 3
A Bad Moms Christmas
Daddy's Home 2
Murder on the Orient Express
Justice League
Coco
Daddy's Home 2
Jumanji
Pitch Perfect 3

Edit: not counting random indie movies

I see a lot of bombas left....

 

[TheSkullPrince]

Just got out of seeing Dunkirk, I was really disappointed. The best word I can use to describe it-"odd".

 

[BadAss2961]

Would love to see Homecoming reception if it were just another Sony reboot.

Give the rights back to Mahvel.

 

[LionPride]

Baby Driver. Apes is debatable, haven't seen it, so maybe all but three.

I out a space between super and hero for a reason. Baby is not a 'superhero' but he's a guy with special abilities who uses them to take on villains.

Hmmmmmmmm.......

Would love to see Homecoming reception if it were just another Sony reboot.

Give the rights back to Mahvel.

Exact same movie, just under Sony?

I'd still love that shit more than any of the other Spider-Man movies and most of the MCU

 

[Obliterator]

Dunkirk is kind of a motherfucker.

My 1:30pm Sunday screening (which sold out) had a lot of people leaving the theater looking/feeling/sounding worn the fuck out.

Yep same with my audience (and myself). The pacing of that film is so intense it wears you the fuck down. I caught myself practically holding my breath during some scenes

 

[broncobuster]

So is Kevin Mccallister by your definition.

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Would love to see Homecoming reception if it were just another Sony reboot.

Give the rights back to Mahvel.

Your shtick is tired.

Or are you really like this

 

[Shauni]

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

Christopher Nolan

 

[3N16MA]

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

Martian Manhunter.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

Justin Lin

Spoiler

Because it's his league

 

[Angelus Errare]

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

Power Girl

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

Iron Giant

 

[wachie]

Wonder Woman is the top movie of 2017 summer season. DC won over Marvel.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE.

 

[WarLox]

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

Manhunter

 

[FTF]

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

John McClane.

 

[Black Republican]

Who do you think Alfred is talking to in the Justin League trailer?

Scar Jo

 

[wachie]

Speaking of Dunkirk, looks like Nolan has the strongest fanbase, I'm talking in terms of BO openings. I would imagine if this was Speilberg joint it would open 10-20M less, kind of like Warhorse. Even lord Cameron had to rely on shiny blue things CGI marvel with 3D "hook" and his 10+ year hiatus after a monster like Titanic still netted him only a 70M opening, given similar stakes would a Cameron directed Dunkirk open to 50M? I'm just playing with hypotheticals.

I haven't watched Dunkirk because none of the trailers I've seen so far have sold me on the movie and "cuz Nolan" isn't enough to drag me to the theatres especially since I have a newborn now.

A few months ago I was having a discussion with Phonciple, 3N16MA & Ghaleon and predicted that this would open at 30-40M, it's amusing in hindsight.

 

[Slayven]

Power Girl

.

 

[hodayathink]

Eh, we had Spidey in the MCU with Civil War. He's just not that interesting of a character.

Seeing as they hid Spidey in half of the Civil War marketing, that wasn't the hook for Civil War. So if you want me to be more specific, the hook was Spidey living in the MCU, as opposed to just showing up in a fight. And for right now, that's all the hook needed to be. Coming off the damage of the Amazing series, this movie was never going to be a billion dollar movie. If you can trust in Homecoming being a good foundation without them, better to save the best ideas for the sequels.