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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

v1perz53

Member
The first boss in Court of Stars has a big AOE that definitely hits areas that it's not under. By quite a large radius. We've learned to get a safe distance from the defined edges of it.

Best part is that there's a DPS trinket that has the exact same graphic as one of his two AoEs. One of our DPS found that out the hard way. Luckily it is one of those trinkets that the graphic only shows for the person using it but still, please never re-use a harmful AoE graphic as a player graphic, gets too confusing fast.

Even worse. There's a Diablo anniversary going on and not a single Diablo game is on sale.

Blizzard don't care.

At least Overwatch is on sale! (The $60 version that gives you nothing special, on sale for $5 less than base PC price lol)
 

Sölf

Member
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Yes. I like.
 

Son1x

Member
I just keep getting more and more disappointed with Legion. Leveled my monk a few days ago and started research immediately. 3 days later, I'm at AK 1. This is so amazing, I have to literally wait weeks to get to normal AP level to be able to do anything normally. Fuck you Blizzard.
 

v1perz53

Member
I just keep getting more and more disappointed with Legion. Leveled my monk a few days ago and started research immediately. 3 days later, I'm at AK 1. This is so amazing, I have to literally wait weeks to get to normal AP level to be able to do anything normally. Fuck you Blizzard.

Just wait until 7.1.5 to level any new characters at this point, I think. Until you can buy up to AK15, it is just too disheartening to try to start now, they were WAY too conservative with AK catchup as it is now. I guess the argument was it is still faster than it was for characters levelling at expansion launch and it was fine for them, so it is fine for alts. But the problem is you aren't trying to slowly level your artifact on a new alt, you are trying to catch up to everyone else because when the world has 30 traits and you have 11, you are not going to be desired for much of anything.
 

Robin64

Member
I just keep getting more and more disappointed with Legion. Leveled my monk a few days ago and started research immediately. 3 days later, I'm at AK 1. This is so amazing, I have to literally wait weeks to get to normal AP level to be able to do anything normally. Fuck you Blizzard.

I mean, yeah, this sucks, but at least 7.1.5 addresses this and lets you get up to AK level 15 right away just with a cost of 7500 resources.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
any Resto Druid changes in 7.1.5 so far? I havent been keeping up
 

Magilla

Banned
Any way to speed up my load times? I saw the "delete your cache" boilerplate answer and that didn't work. Shits driving me bonkers. Sorry if this has been asked. Haven't lurked the thread much. TY!
 

v1perz53

Member
any Resto Druid changes in 7.1.5 so far? I havent been keeping up

Only things I can think of are a minor Displacer Beast nerf (40 sec CD instead of 30, 2 second duration instead of 4 on the sprint), Renewal buff to 1.5 min CD (but still never to be used). Maybe some PvP and legendary changes, but otherwise I think heal/tank druids have barely been touched.
 

TheYanger

Member
FF XIV is a weird game. It has a really cool combat system that is basically ignored until you've played for 50 hours or so. The 2 second CGD is brutal and feels really slow, but the entire game is actually based around a rotation of on-GCD abilities and weaving off-GCD abilities between them. In actuality, the APM of a raider in FF XIV is often higher than that of a raider in WoW. The problem is you don't get most of these off-GCD abilities until like max level and finishing the entire story campaign and hundreds of hours ingame, so for pretty much the majority of time you're playing you're stuck with this 2 second infinite GCD and everything feels like molasses.

Though I really do like the way they handle ground effects in FF XIV, wish they would adopt that style in WoW. It is used even with the very basic early mobs, training players early what things to avoid.



Get the addon MoveAnything. First thing I did was move that stupid window from precious bottom middle screen real estate to the side, and shrink it a bit. Really dumb that there's no option to move it by default.

I've played tons of FF14, I know what I'm talking about. I realize it has a lot of off gcd abilities, which actually feels terrible. You have periods where you need to spam a bunch of buttons, which is the primary reason controller players are at a huge disadvantage, and then the rest of the time you're waiting an hour to press a button (hyperbole).

The ground graphic thing...I can take it or leave it. Wildstar does it better, FF14 does it better than GW2, but ultimately it's very videogamey and extremely unimmersive. It's the kind of thing that HAS existed in wow with AVR, and it trivializes mechanics, it's not interesting and it takes you out of watching the game and into watching for circles and lines on the floor.
 

Tacitus_

Member
The ground graphic thing...I can take it or leave it. Wildstar does it better, FF14 does it better than GW2, but ultimately it's very videogamey and extremely unimmersive. It's the kind of thing that HAS existed in wow with AVR, and it trivializes mechanics, it's not interesting and it takes you out of watching the game and into watching for circles and lines on the floor.

Half of raiding is already about watching for circles and lines on the floor. Might as well take out the guessing for actual borders out of it. They've done it before.

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Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Oh so I wasnt crazy when I played FF14 in beta shortly before launch then? I could sware the GCDs felt longer but I never read into it, it just felt off. I didnt play much of it tho, I would deffinately buy it if it was like gw2 or eso (no sub)
 

Sölf

Member
Completely ruined my transmog and I don't have a great green and dark one. :( Now I need to do 100 dungeons to get the right color.

Yeah, well, that is true. I had to do a new one. I basically just used the Order Hall set with the Headless Horseman helmet. That does look quite good, imo.
 
Talking about immersive in a game in which your UI can look like this during a raid doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Clarity, especially in high-end content, beats out other concerns imo.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Talking about immersive in a game in which your UI can look like this during a raid doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Clarity, especially in high-end content, beats out other concerns imo.

Well I try not to go overboard with the addons. Can't say the same for others.

UI Selfie time.

Although once BigWigs kicks in I lose all that screen real estate. I think WoW's in a weird spot where the Raid designers have always been in an arms race with the UI modders. For every complex encounter, the modders will create all sorts of trackers and indicators to simplify the raids, necessitating ever more busy encounters (lul Odyn and Helya). FFXIV encounters, though I was never really a hardcore raider when I played, all seemed to stay within the bounds of the default UI. It makes the fights less complex than I'd like but it also reduces the need for UI bloat.
 

Chris R

Member
So pissed my brother got an orange from a world quest or sumar quest but I haven't gotten anything :(

Is 835 really a good enough ilvl to do the pickup raid? If I watch a video on the fights or read up on wowhead?

even for a tank?
 

cdyhybrid

Member
So pissed my brother got an orange from a world quest or sumar quest but I haven't gotten anything :(

Is 835 really a good enough ilvl to do the pickup raid? If I watch a video on the fights or read up on wowhead?

even for a tank?

LFR? If you can get into LFR you're good enough to do it. It's designed to be facerolled.
 

Strimei

Member
LFR? If you can get into LFR you're good enough to do it. It's designed to be facerolled.

Its still good to look up the mechanics in the journal as some can still wipe the raid (i.e. the runes on Odyn, if even one is still up he can still one-shot almost the entire raid).

But yeah its not too bad.
 
Bleh, got the BRF Mythic tier shoulders for warrior from a Blackhand token, but I still need the helm and matching boots for the set. Boots particularly, which sucks since there's only one model of them off Operator.

Also need the non-class restricted shoulders from Oregorger. Helm I'm not a particular fan of though, so if I don't get that soon I'm okay.
 
So I see WoW is on sale for $4.99 for Black Friday. Is this only for new accounts or can you apply the expansions you get in this bundle to an existing account?
 

Strimei

Member
Anyone with knowledge about Enhancement Shaman, can you point me to which talents are best to choose?

I feel like I'm kinda flailing about on my alt. Its been a long time since I played this spec (it was gathering dust until the pre-Legion event where I used the invasion to power level it) and it plays a bit differently now with maelstrom and whatnot.

I feel like I'm either starved for maelstrom or filled to the brim, too. So yeah, talents, general rotation, any tips would be welcome!
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Anyone with knowledge about Enhancement Shaman, can you point me to which talents are best to choose?

I feel like I'm kinda flailing about on my alt. Its been a long time since I played this spec (it was gathering dust until the pre-Legion event where I used the invasion to power level it) and it plays a bit differently now with maelstrom and whatnot.

I feel like I'm either starved for maelstrom or filled to the brim, too. So yeah, talents, general rotation, any tips would be welcome!

Boulderfist
Feral Lunge
Whichever, but I like Lightning Surge
Ancestral swiftness
Tempest
Crashing Storm
Landslide
 

Lomax

Member
So I see WoW is on sale for $4.99 for Black Friday. Is this only for new accounts or can you apply the expansions you get in this bundle to an existing account?

If you have an existing account that ever bought the base game, it already has all the content in the $5 base game (which is everything up to Legion). You just need to pay for a monthly sub to reactivate it.
 

Wunder

Member
Boulderfist
Feral Lunge
Whichever, but I like Lightning Surge
Ancestral swiftness
Tempest
Crashing Storm
Landslide

Hailstorm over AS, unless you're only doing open world content but even then I like to stick with Hail just for rotation purposes

Anyone with knowledge about Enhancement Shaman, can you point me to which talents are best to choose?

I feel like I'm kinda flailing about on my alt. Its been a long time since I played this spec (it was gathering dust until the pre-Legion event where I used the invasion to power level it) and it plays a bit differently now with maelstrom and whatnot.

I feel like I'm either starved for maelstrom or filled to the brim, too. So yeah, talents, general rotation, any tips would be welcome!

With the talent setup Anoregon provided (which is pretty much the only talent setup we have rn), you'll want to maintain your buffs (boulderfist/landslide, frostbrand, flametongue) and then prioritize stormstrike over anything else. Crash Lightning should be used for AoE as well as ST because of Crashing Storm and it has a chance to proc Stormbringer since its a main hand attack, so use that whenever Stormstrike is on cooldown. Other than that you can use Lava Lash when you're about to be capped on Maelstrom but both SS and CL are on CD and you can't do anything else.
 

Strimei

Member
Boulderfist
Feral Lunge
Whichever, but I like Lightning Surge
Ancestral swiftness
Tempest
Crashing Storm
Landslide

Hailstorm over AS, unless you're only doing open world content but even then I like to stick with Hail just for rotation purposes

Thanks both, I'll play around with both Hailstorm and AS to see which feels better for me right now at least.

Unrelated but I finally got around to getting some of the new glyphs for my alts. Blue Rising Sun Kick and red lightning makes me feel snazzy.
 

Tarazet

Member
Hailstorm over AS, unless you're only doing open world content but even then I like to stick with Hail just for rotation purposes



With the talent setup Anoregon provided (which is pretty much the only talent setup we have rn), you'll want to maintain your buffs (boulderfist/landslide, frostbrand, flametongue) and then prioritize stormstrike over anything else. Crash Lightning should be used for AoE as well as ST because of Crashing Storm and it has a chance to proc Stormbringer since its a main hand attack, so use that whenever Stormstrike is on cooldown. Other than that you can use Lava Lash when you're about to be capped on Maelstrom but both SS and CL are on CD and you can't do anything else.

Just to clarify, Frostbrand is not in the rotation at all if you are taking the AS talent. That's the whole point of taking the talent, otherwise it's a waste. AS is good for blowing through easy content like world quests or your daily heroic, but Hailstorm becomes better when doing stuff that's actually relevant. It's also required if you have a particular Legendary. That said, some raiders do use AS and have recorded strong parses with it.
 

Mothman91

Member
Transferred my main to another server, anyone know if I can keep the settings/addon settings? It fucked up everything, I use default UI but when I logged on after transferring, it enabled all my addons and such. All the addons are as if I just installed them fresh.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
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Transferred my main to another server, anyone know if I can keep the settings/addon settings? It fucked up everything, I use default UI but when I logged on after transferring, it enabled all my addons and such. All the addons are as if I just installed them fresh.

Some addons have "character profiles" and they might have been keyed to a specific character. Check the individual settings for those? You shouldn't have lost it all with a character transfer. Did the same happen to your alts?
 

Mothman91

Member
Some addons have "character profiles" and they might have been keyed to a specific character. Check the individual settings for those? You shouldn't have lost it all with a character transfer. Did the same happen to your alts?

I only transferred my main. It was very weird, I had elvui on when I don't use it. I use Vuhdo and it was configured as if I freshly installed it. I don't see my quests on the right. Auto loot was off also.

It's not a big deal but I know I put some minor settings I wanted and it's gonna annoy me later on when I can't figure out a problem.
 
I only transferred my main. It was very weird, I had elvui on when I don't use it. I use Vuhdo and it was configured as if I freshly installed it. I don't see my quests on the right. Auto loot was off also.

It's not a big deal but I know I put some minor settings I wanted and it's gonna annoy me later on when I can't figure out a problem.

Add-on profiles are configured by realm/server-character name. Just go into your add-on folder and change the server folder name to your new server
 

Xeteh

Member
I only transferred my main. It was very weird, I had elvui on when I don't use it. I use Vuhdo and it was configured as if I freshly installed it. I don't see my quests on the right. Auto loot was off also.

It's not a big deal but I know I put some minor settings I wanted and it's gonna annoy me later on when I can't figure out a problem.

It saves your UI settings per character name and per server. So if you transfer a character to a different server it sees that as a different character regardless if the name is the same or not.

It should work to go in to your WoW folder, WTF > Account > AccountName > Server (the one you transferred from) then copy the folder with your character's name. Go back to the folder with the servers and paste the character folder in to your new server.

Add-on profiles are configured by realm/server-character name. Just go into your add-on folder and change the server folder name to your new server

Or that.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I feel like I'm seeing way, way too many players with special character names lately. It's annoying when I'm trying to armory them or invite them.
 

v1perz53

Member
If I fail a Nightbane run but killed two bosses can I try again in another group the same week?

Yup, I had a full clear the first week before people knew how to spawn him and then did a Nightbane run before the reset that same week.

It worked very easily the first week, but since the change to how instance saves work in Kara we haven't been able to reset consistently. Tried a few times last week on our alt run, with Opera down and Curator up, we were never able to get the instance to reset at all. Even having an unsaved alt zone in to a fresh instance, then inviting the other members, it would put the 4 saved people in a separate zone from the unsaved alt. We cleared Curator and had a bit more success, we were able to get 4 people in the fresh alt instance, but we could never get the 5th in, they would zone in to their own instance at Curator. Obviously first thing we tried was zoning out and resetting all instances, did nothing.

So yea, people say it is possible to reset and try again, but for us at least it was very clunky and never worked correctly, so don't go in expecting to be able to try multiple times no problem, or I guess just don't be too bummed if it doesn't work for you like it didn't for us. Thankfully we haven't failed NB on mains yet since we first did it, want to at least get 5x mounts as quick as we can.
 
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