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v1perz53

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Personally, I think the only way a "legendary" system can work is if they are ALL utility and none affect DPS. If every one was like Prydaz (and you could reforge their stats), you would be pumped to get one. Small DPS boost from ilvl, and cool utility effect. No pressure to get one because it doesn't really make or break your DPS. As of now though Prydaz sucks because it can never affect your DPS while others have a huge impact. Every single iteration of Legendaries in WoW has been shit in some form, blizzard should realize their playerbase will never get a rare drop and go "Oh boy how awesome!" they will always go "fucking finally got that, what a relief", so stop tying player power to random rare things, because it makes the majority that don't have it feel underpowered and the minority that do feel relief that they can finally perform as they feel is intended.

E: My personal stance, I like titanforging, I like the legendary system. I was pumped when I got both my legendaries, and they are dog shit for me (Cinidaria/Prydaz on a tank). I get pumped when a piece of gear titanforges +15 ilvl. I could do content just fine before my legendaries/TF gear, and I never felt bad when I didn't have them. But I also don't raid, just do high Mythic+ runs, so maybe that is a part of it? But I definitely see why people don't like the system and I don't think anything about it is good. I just don't personally care what they do, since I have no problems with the current system myself.
 
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erawsd

Member
v1perz53 said:
Personally, I think the only way a "legendary" system can work is if they are ALL utility and none affect DPS. If every one was like Prydaz (and you could reforge their stats), you would be pumped to get one. Small DPS boost from ilvl, and cool utility effect. No pressure to get one because it doesn't really make or break your DPS. As of now though Prydaz sucks because it can never affect your DPS while others have a huge impact. Every single iteration of Legendaries in WoW has been shit in some form, blizzard should realize their playerbase will never get a rare drop and go "Oh boy how awesome!" they will always go "fucking finally got that, what a relief", so stop tying player power to random rare things, because it makes the majority that don't have it feel underpowered and the minority that do feel relief that they can finally perform as they feel is intended.
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Having them only be utility would be so boring, that type of thinking is exactly what ruined the old glyph system. Gear progression that is more than just stats is actually something I think is a great idea and Id like to see them expand on it. The big frustration with the current design is almost entirely acquisition. People are always going to go "fuckin finally!" when they get something they've been after for awhile but thats not necessary a bad feeling as long as the item is worth it.
 
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TheYanger

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I, for the record, preferred when set bonuses didn't give you throughput either. There's nothing wrong with dps legendaries, but much like set bonuses it had to be all or nothing. You can't have utility come at the expense of massive dps or it feels bad. Yes, sometimes the utility is good, but when it is I will make that decision and that makes me a good player. Just having no choice makes me salty instead.
 
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1.09

Low Tier
TheYanger said:
NOBODY GETS EXCITED TO SEE PRYDAZ OR SEPHUZ. period. It benefits nobody to have those in the game while actual good legendaries also exist. You have to go one way or the other with the design. There will always be a best and worst, but 20% more dps vs literally does nothing is not an acceptable gulf for single item rng.
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Mupod

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Haly said:
Soft cap?
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third post on this page that I've mentioned it in, but unless you got a ton of legendaries early on (from that one bug) then you were functionally limited to 4 per character until recently. They were called out on it and acknowledged it today, but they already removed the 'cap'.

From their description of the way they did it, they essentially removed the 'bad luck protection' after finding the fourth one. So you could still theoretically find one but you didn't have any 'help'.
 
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Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Mupod said:
third post on this page that I've mentioned it in, but unless you got a ton of legendaries early on (from that one bug) then you were functionally limited to 4 per character until recently. They were called out on it and acknowledged it today, but they already removed the 'cap'.

From their description of the way they did it, they essentially removed the 'bad luck protection' after finding the fourth one. So you could still theoretically find one but you didn't have any 'help'.
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And it seemed that without this help, it was virtually impossible to get a fifth one, so most were locked to 4. What an idiotic thing to do when some of them don't do shit and some make you do a fuck ton more damage.
 
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Artanisix

Member
Lol to be honest id be hyped to get a prydaz. It is absolutely godlike for guardian druid with the 7.1.5 change. With our 5 million hp the shields will be like 1.8 million every 30 seconds.
 
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Son1x

Member
Are there any target dummies that have lower hp? I can't really test my dps on them with the dps belt that increases dmg to targets with health above 90%.
 
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Lomax

Member
CarbonatedFalcon said:
TFW you realize the artifact appearance that matches your transmog is from archaeology...and it's not an account-wide achievement.

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Wait. That's not account wide? Fuck you Blizzard. Seriously. Maybe once people have it they'll change that because that's just the dumbest thing I've heard yet.
 
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Tarazet

Member
I know it's been said a million times, whoever decided to put profession-specific quests, that you are led to do at around level 105, in the Underbelly FFA PvP zone. C'mon. Common fucking sense!
 
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Tarazet

Member
jaundicejuice said:
Hire a guard for 5 gold.
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They were called off just as I was getting to the NPC.

Followed by getting ganked by an opposite faction 110 Warrior five seconds later.

Fucking asiherueahtisygruyrgeyirgyire

Had to take fucking res sickness because I didn't want to give that shitlord the satisfaction of corpse camping me.

Shit is NOT FUCKING OK WHATSOVER.
 
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irfaanator

Banned
just got my 2nd legendary. Story goes: I was doing world quests in valsharah. Got my emissary chest, opened it and my 2nd legendary dropped. Im just really glad and astonished that as a ret pld I got the wrists just now which aren't bad and already had the waist which is getting that buff in 7.1.5. everything's coming up millhouse
 
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Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Tarazet said:
They were called off just as I was getting to the NPC.

Followed by getting ganked by an opposite faction 110 Warrior five seconds later.

Fucking asiherueahtisygruyrgeyirgyire

Had to take fucking res sickness because I didn't want to give that shitlord the satisfaction of corpse camping me.

Shit is NOT FUCKING OK WHATSOVER.
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Guards being called off is why you spend 5 gold to hire a guard. They don't go away when the guards are called off. That's the whole point of them.
 
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cdyhybrid

Member
Anoregon said:
Guards being called off is why you spend 5 gold to hire a guard. They don't go away when the guards are called off. That's the whole point of them.
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I don't think you can hire them unless the guards are already gone. They got called out after he already ran in.
 
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Tarazet

Member
Anoregon said:
Guards being called off is why you spend 5 gold to hire a guard. They don't go away when the guards are called off. That's the whole point of them.
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It didn't work, never has. Buggy mess of an area. Are you supposed to do it only when PvP is already enabled? Because if I buy it when the guards are still on duty, they vanish and I get gibbed when they get called off.

It's a shit design to have those quests in there, period. Not to mention the fishing stuff.
 
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jaundicejuice

Member
Tarazet said:
They were called off just as I was getting to the NPC.

Followed by getting ganked by an opposite faction 110 Warrior five seconds later.

Fucking asiherueahtisygruyrgeyirgyire

Had to take fucking res sickness because I didn't want to give that shitlord the satisfaction of corpse camping me.

Shit is NOT FUCKING OK WHATSOVER.
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The staging area in the sewers where you can hire a guard is neutral ground. If you haven't left the staging area, even when the guards have been called off, you cannot be attacked. Just hire a personal guard anytime you have to go down into the sewers, even when the guards are currently on shift. 5 gold is nothing in Legion.
 
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Bizazedo

Member
Tarazet said:
It didn't work, never has. Buggy mess of an area. Are you supposed to do it only when PvP is already enabled? Because if I buy it when the guards are still on duty, they vanish and I get gibbed when they get called off.

It's a shit design to have those quests in there, period. Not to mention the fishing stuff.
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I've hired dozens of guards while the guards were up.

If you truly had a bug where your 5 gold guard disappeared on you when guards were called off, that sucks, but I've never seen that happen.

Underbelly is fine.
 
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Ayumi

Member
Hello~ I'm back after 6+ years. Just bought Legion and 3 months, so now I'm forced to play. :3

Anyone on EU Draenor wanna be friends? I usually play from around 7pm GMT+9.

And also, how come the Gaf player spreadsheet list is so small? I've noticed they're usually huge in popular online game threads on Gaf.
 
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1.09

Low Tier
Ayumi said:
Hello~ I'm back after 6+ years. Just bought Legion and 3 months, so now I'm forced to play. :3

Anyone on EU Draenor wanna be friends? I usually play from around 7pm GMT+9.

And also, how come the Gaf player spreadsheet list is so small? I've noticed they're usually huge in popular online game threads on Gaf.
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not much upkeep tbh
 
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Dmax3901

Member
Ok so I'm going through Mists of Pandaria zone by zone just to do the story as I enjoy it. So far I've been using the loremaster achievements as a guide. Once I unlock the achievement for a zone, I move on. Just about to head into Dread Wastes, then I assume Eternal Blossom. My question is, should I bother with the Isle of Thunder when I'm done? Or is it kinda pointless after all that has been and gone.
 
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Dugna

Member
Dmax3901 said:
Ok so I'm going through Mists of Pandaria zone by zone just to do the story as I enjoy it. So far I've been using the loremaster achievements as a guide. Once I unlock the achievement for a zone, I move on. Just about to head into Dread Wastes, then I assume Eternal Blossom. My question is, should I bother with the Isle of Thunder when I'm done? Or is it kinda pointless after all that has been and gone.
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Isle of thunder is a MoP lvl cap zone so its not really a questing zone and takes a bit to get through fully.
 
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Son1x

Member
Am I doing something wrong with mining? On my main that I have been playing since the release of Legion my mining skill is still at 779. Pretty much the only nodes I still get skill from are the Infernal Brimstone ones.

On my alt that I dinged 110 just last weekend, I already have 780+ herbalism with hardly gathering any felworth.
 
Robin64

Robin64

Member
Son1x said:
Am I doing something wrong with mining? On my main that I have been playing since the release of Legion my mining skill is still at 779. Pretty much the only nodes I still get skill from are the Infernal Brimstone ones.

On my alt that I dinged 110 just last weekend, I already have 780+ herbalism with hardly gathering any felworth.
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Nope, you're doing nothing wrong, mining is just super shit to get those last points. The only source of skill ups you will get are the 1 point from the Infernals on a World Quest and the 5 points from the Darkmoon Faire quest each month.
 
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Vengal

Member
erawsd said:
Having them only be utility would be so boring, that type of thinking is exactly what ruined the old glyph system. Gear progression that is more than just stats is actually something I think is a great idea and Id like to see them expand on it. The big frustration with the current design is almost entirely acquisition. People are always going to go "fuckin finally!" when they get something they've been after for awhile but thats not necessary a bad feeling as long as the item is worth it.
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Some utility is alot of fun, however they would all be min/maxed into dps as well. My first legendary was the run fast plate boots. I was bummed a little bit but ended up loving them since DKs are so slow. I like those boots so much that once I got a second real tanking one I was sad to not use them. Yet in the back my head there's that nagging feeling that I wish I had a pure dps legendary instead for my offspec.

Legendary items would have been alot more fun if they were pure flavor utility that did exciting things. The ilevel bump alone is worth it in most cases.
 
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Son1x

Member
Robin64 said:
Nope, you're doing nothing wrong, mining is just super shit to get those last points. The only source of skill ups you will get are the 1 point from the Infernals on a World Quest and the 5 points from the Darkmoon Faire quest each month.
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Thanks. At least I don't need mining at max to do things.

Doing the archaeology quest now, didn't they supposedly fix the drop rate for these? I'm at 3/10 after finishing 6 digsites.

edit: 4/10 after 8 digsites. This is fun.
 
Lanrutcon

Lanrutcon

Member
Sub ran out today, didn't bother renewing.

something something Warlock something

I'll check back next year to see if their balance team showed up sober for once.
 
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Lain

Member
jaundicejuice said:
The staging area in the sewers where you can hire a guard is neutral ground. If you haven't left the staging area, even when the guards have been called off, you cannot be attacked. Just hire a personal guard anytime you have to go down into the sewers, even when the guards are currently on shift. 5 gold is nothing in Legion.
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Remember that the calling off guards before was bugged, when people paid to have guards called off, the guard you hired disappeared too. It seems the bug is mostly fixed nowadays (personal experience, my guard hasn't disappeared when people paid to have guards called off), but I wouldn't be surprised if it reappeared from time to time.

Bizazedo said:
I've hired dozens of guards while the guards were up.

If you truly had a bug where your 5 gold guard disappeared on you when guards were called off, that sucks, but I've never seen that happen.

Underbelly is fine.
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You never went to the underbelly the first month of the expansion? Because that was always happening.
 
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Lomax

Member
The one and only time I bothered to buy a guard I still ended up "marked" somehow and then killed so I never bothered again. Seriously, just wait the two days and go in at 110. Hell most of the time if I'm fishing down there and it goes pvp people just keep fishing. It really isn't that big of a deal.
 
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Faiz

Member
Lomax said:
The one and only time I bothered to buy a guard I still ended up "marked" somehow and then killed so I never bothered again. Seriously, just wait the two days and go in at 110. Hell most of the time if I'm fishing down there and it goes pvp people just keep fishing. It really isn't that big of a deal.
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Must depend on server, because every time I've been down there and guards were called I got attacked.
 
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