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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

Mothman91

Member
Holy shit, half the heroic EN groups are recruiting or sales. Blizzard needs to do something about this, the options for reporting suck too.
 
You can use everything for alchemy at skill level 1, flasks and all. None of my legion alchemists started at past 1. Engineering is a good point though since you need like 425 for mailbox or 600 for blingtron.

Yup, I heard leveling engineering is a pain so I want to avoid that with the bonus coin
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
They talked to all of the artists on the team that would be working on the mounts and assigned the mounts to the artists that actually play that class. The artist was given the task of creating a class mount.
Pretty cool
 

Renekton

Member
just roll a druid then u can be all 4 specs no problem

except feral is hard as fuck to play jesus christ im trying to learn the rotation right now

also lmfao only 10 guilds have killed heroic helya. what the fuck
ILpWI4a.jpg
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Sucks that Trial is apparently overtuned, the dudes I roll with only really do normals (we only killed the first EN HC boss) and you would think normal should be able to do the next normal etc, especially when we diss 80% of the EN normal gear by now
 

Strimei

Member
Pretty cool

Kinda makes me wonder why the mage-playing artist decided the whole disc thing.

I guess he/she remembered the Malygos fight. Least its better than that one, though.

One thing I will grant, though, is that it doesn't seem to have that cloud thing under it like the disc from MoP. So that's nice.
 

Khezu

Member
New caster animations are still in the works and the team is trying to figure out if they can use weapons for some of the animations.

YES

The team is talking about how they could add weather that has a gameplay impact in the world, similar to the new battleground brawl.

I would very much like this, Weather in general always seemed really rare in the game.
I always really liked it when it storms.

The problem with that is players that go AFK are slowly pushed across the area.

I don't see the problem.
 

Renekton

Member
Sucks that Trial is apparently overtuned, the dudes I roll with only really do normals (we only killed the first EN HC boss) and you would think normal should be able to do the next normal etc, especially when we diss 80% of the EN normal gear by now
Wow, I guess I'm no longer salty about N TOV pugs requiring AOTC.
 

Shahadan

Member
Their "social queuing" is a nice thing to have, but to be actually useful it should be elsewhere and also tell what roles are currently being filled.
 

LogicStep

Member
I'm seriously getting tired of melee.. it's hard as hell to stay alive and keep dps up with all the crap going on. I keep hearing elemental sucks but I've ran with a few that do sick dps.
 

Milennia

Member
just roll a druid then u can be all 4 specs no problem

except feral is hard as fuck to play jesus christ im trying to learn the rotation right now

also lmfao only 10 guilds have killed heroic helya. what the fuck

most good guilds did splits of EN before going into heroic TOV, you will see a ton more kills by monday friends of mine whos guilds decided to just go straight in said it wasnt hard in their splits.

however i will say i have heard some things about mythic being tuned quite higher than what it should be purposely, so as to keep the instance artificially around longer and to prove they can actually kick players asses after the 2 day shitfest that was EN.

will see on tuesday.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I ran my Survival Hunter in a normal EN and while the damage was decent the amount of efforty ou have to put in to get it there is insane. For your core rotation, we're talking Lacerate, Murder of Crows, Explosive Trap, Hellfire Grande, Flanking Strikes, Mongoose Bite, Raptor Strike, Fury of the Eagle and Throwing Axes. That is your core rotation. Not your 'occasional exceptions' rotation. For eh damage. I have so many other melee spec characters that are so much easier to play and do about the same damage with way better cleave.

With the other specs getting traps, I wonder if Blizzard just intends for every single hunter to play MM. Because that's how it is now. And that's how it's going to be until they do something about it.
 

1.09

Low Tier
most good guilds did splits of EN before going into heroic TOV, you will see a ton more kills by monday friends of mine whos guilds decided to just go straight in said it wasnt hard in their splits.

however i will say i have heard some things about mythic being tuned quite higher than what it should be purposely, so as to keep the instance artificially around longer and to prove they can actually kick players asses after the 2 day shitfest that was EN.

will see on tuesday.

there's a couple cheese strats you can do for guarm that'll make it pretty easy
 

Khezu

Member
I ran my Survival Hunter in a normal EN and while the damage was decent the amount of efforty ou have to put in to get it there is insane. For your core rotation, we're talking Lacerate, Murder of Crows, Explosive Trap, Hellfire Grande, Flanking Strikes, Mongoose Bite, Raptor Strike, Fury of the Eagle and Throwing Axes. That is your core rotation. Not your 'occasional exceptions' rotation. For eh damage. I have so many other melee spec characters that are so much easier to play and do about the same damage with way better cleave.

With the other specs getting traps, I wonder if Blizzard just intends for every single hunter to play MM. Because that's how it is now. And that's how it's going to be until they do something about it.

They need to remove Raptor Strike and Way of the Makw/e.
Make it so DFG replaces explosive trap.
Reduce Mongoose fury to 3 stacks.
Make FoTE automatically give 3 stacks of fury, so it's your opener for starting your burst. Which would also make it actually usable for on demand AOE.
Lacerate/Flanking/Axes are fine.
MoC is kinda lackluster for survival IMO.

Also replace the dumb harpoon dot and dollar store windfury as the golden traits.
 
Blizzcon interview summary.

For model updates:

The Death Knight ghoul is a good example, as once it is updated, the new model will appear everywhere in the world where there are ghouls. The likelyhood of that happening is higher than something that is a model just used by one class or in one place in the game.

Hopefully the abomination is updated along with it.
 

idlewild_

Member
Just got a nice Sephuz's Secret to go with my Prydaz. Good times. Not even going to use it since my other rings are better. Hoping for some good changes to these two legendaries when they do the tuning pass/rework they have been mentioning.
 

ch0mp

Member
I am the founder and only member of the Sephuz Fan Club. As a mythic+ Blood DK, a 10 second sprint on demand is a game changer. I wish they'd give every class/spec some way to proc it on immune enemies, though. When I'm Frost or Blood I have no options at all, Unholy can only do it every 1.5 minutes with the abomination pet. I expect after the legendary re-tuning they will let you activate it on demand at the cost of a severe nerf to the proc's strength and I don't know how I feel about that.

As for ToV - Odyn seemed fine. But as I said Guarm's damage is super out of whack for normal mode. Far beyond anything in heroic EN. I don't think we were doing anything wrong in his charge phase, but it was absolutely crazy.

How many people do you have soaking the breath? We started out with around half of our raid in it and the charge aoe was smashing us. When we got all of our melee soaking it was easy to heal. He gains a stacking buff if not enough people soak.
 

idlewild_

Member
Err im going by what people arw saying here btw, I havent actually tried it :)

Not sure about normal, but heroic is certainly a step up above how EN was. My guild is 5/7M, for us Odyn took around an hour to get down, Guarm was a joke, Helya we only put in a handful of attempts before we decided to go back to working on EN. We might have had her down if we invested the raid week on it, but based on our attempts it seems like it will be a rough fight for a heroic only guild. Normal might be tuned similarly for normal only guilds.
 

Strimei

Member
Question: I remember there being some sort of full armor appearance thing for each armor class from the Trial of Valor, or at least there was one datamined.

Is that still in somewhere? I ask because I noticed the pieces the Trial of Valor has don't include helms (and shoulders, I think), and I want the whole set (when possible).
 
Question: I remember there being some sort of full armor appearance thing for each armor class from the Trial of Valor, or at least there was one datamined.

Is that still in somewhere? I ask because I noticed the pieces the Trial of Valor has don't include helms (and shoulders, I think), and I want the whole set (when possible).

After you beat Odyn, he offers a quest to collect 1000 mcguffins that gives you the armor set.
 

Mothman91

Member
Queued up for a normal or heroic HoV. Heroic popped up, 3 DHs and a Pally tank. The DPS all just jump around and just get hit with every little thing you can possibly imagine. Actually am healing instead of dpsing for once while farming Hyrja. Tell myself I should stop trying to farm her and say fuck it because of these DHs.

and bam:

 

kirblar

Member
Sucks that Trial is apparently overtuned, the dudes I roll with only really do normals (we only killed the first EN HC boss) and you would think normal should be able to do the next normal etc, especially when we diss 80% of the EN normal gear by now
This has been a big issue with Trial and Karazhan.
 

Mothman91

Member
Going to give my thoughts on ToV once I've done N/HC EN on my main for the week. Will do ToV tomorrow night, hearing a lot about it though.

Jeez, finishing the 30 corurpted essence quest netted me 47k artifact power.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
We did about 8 or so pulls on heroic Odyn, it seems damn hard for a 4/7 mythic guild. A lot of people have been saying this, and I completely agree, that the gear you get from there is not representative of the difficulty.
 

Mothman91

Member
We did about 8 or so pulls on heroic Odyn, it seems damn hard for a 4/7 mythic guild. A lot of people have been saying this, and I completely agree, that the gear you get from there is not representative of the loot you get.

I agree, from a Holy Priest perspective, nothing from that loot table I would want. I have heavily geared towards mastery/crit. Having only like 3% haste, I don't think I want to replace my main stats with haste/vers with a minor ilvl upgrade. Not worth it at all.
 

Lanrutcon

Member
(bitter post incoming)

From the interview:

Legendary items are special and when you receive one it gives you a story to tell.

And most of the stories are "this legendary is shit and designed by some clown who doesn't play the game, god I'm depressed I didn't luck out and get one that makes me 20% better at my job".

The team knows that getting the fantasy for each class mount right is very important.

Warlocks get a HORSE. A HORSE. You know how many horses and wolves I already have? Thank you for horse #7. Bet it took a lot of effort to come up with the concept of ANOTHER HORSE. Passionately.

It is very clear when you are doing a piece of art if the artist was behind it from a passion perspective.

Actually, it's very clear from most of the tier set visuals that your artists harbor a lot of resentment towards their jobs, the player base and the world in general. Or they're on drugs and stuck in the 80s.

Some of the talents that everyone is taking are going to be baked into the class.

Bet you $20 that Destro Warlocks do not in fact get either Eradication, Soul Conduit and Demon Skin as baseline, despite those being the 3 most popular talents by a fucking gigantic margin.

Things that people aren't using will be buffed or removed.

Oh. So they'll be removing Affliction Warlocks and Elemental Shamans completely.

Rewards will continue to remain relevant as patches are released, with the increase of item levels or additional rewards.

Uh. I mean, let's say that somehow (somehow) you aren't 850 yet. Somehow. Maybe you only play once a week or something. THEN the rewards are relevant, and only barely. Everyone else? not so much. Hell, you're not even increasing the gold an resource rewards as time goes on.

We're definitely considering adding reforging back due to the current item level issues

hahahah no I just made that one up, Blizzard don't want you bypassing the slot machine
 

Renekton

Member
Oh. So they'll be removing Affliction Warlocks and Elemental Shamans completely.
I am levelling my affliction lock (first and main raiding character in vanilla) to 110 and boy the mechanics are sheer clunk.

Soul effigy is "Hey if you are not yet bored of DoT timers, here is an extra target to refresh DoTs on."


here is the tru story of my legendary
My story is like yours but before you fixed the imgur link.
 

Ark

Member
We had three Prydaz's drop last night. Why are Prydaz's and Sephuz the most common legendary's? It's a joke at this point.
 

Acidote

Member
Sephu's Secret is my only legendary. It's been sitting on my bags for a long while now. As soon as I got my 860 rings (880 and 890 now).
 

Maledict

Member
I hate the fact that they are increasing drop rates for legendaries if you don't have one. There's nothing they can do for Prydaz that can make it useful for tanks unless they fundamentally change it completely, and yet it's dropped for every one of our tank players.

The idea that you get one shot at a legendary and then the drop rate decreases is stupid given how unbalanced they are.
 

Tacitus_

Member
Warlocks get a HORSE. A HORSE. You know how many horses and wolves I already have? Thank you for horse #7. Bet it took a lot of effort to come up with the concept of ANOTHER HORSE. Passionately.

Now sit down and shut up. I won't have you disrespecting an update to the Dreadsteed. Warlocks have been asking for a flying Dreadsteed practically as long as flying has existed.
 

Lanrutcon

Member
Now sit down and shut up. I won't have you disrespecting an update to the Dreadsteed. Warlocks have been asking for a flying Dreadsteed practically as long as flying has existed.

Unless it has giant goddamn batwings it's just another horse.We deserve a giant flying demon. Just not that disco thing that Demon Hunters got. Cough.
 
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