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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

Mupod

Member
Seems like your group is right around where mine is, we've been clearing our +10s but still working on getting one in the time limit because of Kara. They nerfed the ability to reset Nightbane the night before we started working on that, which kind of sucked, and last week both the +10s we got were HoV (don't recommend that one with Tyrannical/Necrotic, first boss is really hard to drop Necrotic on, 2nd boss hits DPS players for ~1.7 million), though probably without Necrotic we could do HoV+10 in the time even Tyrannical now. We're hoping this week to get a good +10 that is actually doable on Tyrannical. Sanguine does make me wish I was a DK/DH (or we had a DPS DK), sometimes when those mobs move into the pool of 5+ sanguines then start to cast 3 non-interruptable abilites in a row I die a little inside. Hope we both get our +10 timers in this week, then it is the fun yet ultimately thankless grind to +15...

I think the problem for my group with Court of Stars is that everyone hates it aside from me, so no one is willing to learn it to optimize because we always do poorly on it (because we don't know it). Doesn't help that our healer refused to do Suramar at first, so he only got attuned well after we had been doing Mythic+, so like 3 of the people in our group never even did the dungeon until our first Mythic+ run, and that is not the time you want to be learning the dungeon.. And now there is no way I can convince them to do it on Mythic0 to learn it when we could just do other keystones, hah. But for all I dislike about CoS, at least it isn't Arcway, also RNG elements but 3x as long... Getting a mythic+ arcway that starts right side just feels like the game is telling you it isn't your night.

Dunno if you know this but you can still reset for Nightbane. We had cleared past Curator and were getting the thing where it zones you in and instakills you at his portal.

We have an attuned alt that we keep parked outside of the instance. When we need to reset we invite him, zone out, have him reset and zone in, then send someone else in with him and we're good to go. But yeah, we got a night of practice in when it was still easy. And then we got even more 'practice' when it bugged out and despawned the final crystal...but I'm riding an ember wyrm now so it all worked out eventually.

Funny thing about Necrotic is even though it's considered the anti-DK affix, clever use of AMS lets me drop it off on many bosses without needing our cat or paladin to taunt it off me. If I ever find the legendary cloak I'll be able to drop it at will since that will make AMS last 10 seconds.
 

Strimei

Member
Can you not use a second bonus roll on the world bosses if you kill them again? I thought you could.

I swear I did on the ettin in Highmountain two weeks ago.

edit: Tried twice more, I guess I was mistaken and you can't. Damn it! I want the leather chest for transmog.
 
Trying to get the best out of this Battle Pet buff. I left it too late to take good advantage of the whole weeked, but I finally got into battle pets.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
no fury item

so that's another... 6 weeks? until i might maybe get a chance at one of the three items i need for the fury appearance






YAY RNG
 

Strimei

Member
no fury item

so that's another... 6 weeks? until i might maybe get a chance at one of the three items i need for the fury appearance






YAY RNG

The hidden appearance stuff off the bosses are now guaranteed drop. You just need to meet the requirements.

What's your artifact knowledge? And are you exalted with the Valarjar?
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
The hidden appearance stuff off the bosses are now guaranteed drop. You just need to meet the requirements.

What's your artifact knowledge? And are you exalted with the Valarjar?

I am AK 10 but I also didn't get credit for the world quest for killing him because of how buggy Warden WQs are. Maybe that's why?

Are the appearances guaranteed for dungeon bosses now too? Like Thunderfury?
 

Strimei

Member
I am AK 10 but I also didn't get credit for the world quest for killing him because of how buggy Warden WQs are. Maybe that's why?

Are the appearances guaranteed for dungeon bosses now too? Like Thunderfury?

They hotfixed it late last week for it (for world bosses), so yes. And like I asked, are you exalted with teh Valarjar? I believe that's another requirement.
 

v1perz53

Member
Dunno if you know this but you can still reset for Nightbane. We had cleared past Curator and were getting the thing where it zones you in and instakills you at his portal.

We have an attuned alt that we keep parked outside of the instance. When we need to reset we invite him, zone out, have him reset and zone in, then send someone else in with him and we're good to go. But yeah, we got a night of practice in when it was still easy. And then we got even more 'practice' when it bugged out and despawned the final crystal...but I'm riding an ember wyrm now so it all worked out eventually.

Funny thing about Necrotic is even though it's considered the anti-DK affix, clever use of AMS lets me drop it off on many bosses without needing our cat or paladin to taunt it off me. If I ever find the legendary cloak I'll be able to drop it at will since that will make AMS last 10 seconds.

See, we did hear that, and we tried it with my shaman alt, but no combination of the other people joining his group, resetting their own instance, or anything got them to zone in with my shaman, it was always shaman alone in a fresh clear and all of them zoned into the old instance, despite being in a group with my shaman as the leader. This happened both when we just cleared opera and tried to reset, as well as the next day when we had cleared curator and tried to reset, then again after clearing last boss and trying one more time. Too bad, since Nightbane loot is really the only guaranteed upgrades we have from Kara now, which is unfortunate since we all really like the instance.

And yea, I actually think Necrotic works out not too badly for a DK who can drop the stacks. Doesn't matter too much for my bear on trash since my AoE slow with moonkin affinity is larger range than mobs melee range so kiting is easy, though it does suck for some things like Wrathguards in BRH with the 2343592 yard melee range BS. But coming to a boss like Hymdall in HoV who can't be slowed made resetting as a Bear quite challenging, especially since even taunting from across the room he would be on the Monk/Pally who taunted in ~2 seconds, he was hella fast. My main problem with Necrotic though is it is just so boring, I spend most trash pulls running away kiting with Thrash, don't get to DPS at all. Guess it beats Skittish though...
 
all this armchair talk about mythic raiding but does any1 actually have good progression in mythics? Frustrating tbh reading this

My guild is 4/7M and should be at least 5/7M this week. (I was on my way to a funeral when they killed Dragons this past Thursday.)

I don't know if you'd classify that as "good progression" though. As I mentioned in my other post, we're behind what we should be due to some personnel issues (mainly with healers: losing healers, ill healer, healers swapping mains). Tanks and DPS have been mostly fine. So we're probably about 300-400 US ranks behind what I figure our target would be, which equates to about 1000-1200 world ranks. At about 760 US right now, but it should be closer to top 300.

There's definitely other people that post here that are much more cutting edge though. Yanger and Milennia, for example.
 

Xeteh

Member
I should have done this Fathom Dweller pre-quest stuff on my DK instead of my Hunter. I don't have the water strider mount so I'm doing a lot of swimming.
 

Strimei

Member
I should have done this Fathom Dweller pre-quest stuff on my DK instead of my Hunter. I don't have the water strider mount so I'm doing a lot of swimming.

Just buy one of those goblin glider kits, get down onto the rip of Dalaran, face the Eye of Azshara, jump and use it. You'll get relatively close, I imagine.

(Also BM hunters can get the water strider pet which lets you water walk)
 

Xeteh

Member
Just buy one of those goblin glider kits, get down onto the rip of Dalaran, face the Eye of Azshara, jump and use it. You'll get relatively close, I imagine.

(Also BM hunters can get the water strider pet which lets you water walk)

I have those, I even have Gunshoes (best item in the game) but there's still a fair bit of swimming involved. Didn't know about the pet though, I should look in to that even though I don't play BM.
 
I have those, I even have Gunshoes (best item in the game) but there's still a fair bit of swimming involved. Didn't know about the pet though, I should look in to that even though I don't play BM.

A tip for not running out of fatigue, you can coast the Broken Shores coastline until you get close to the Eyes coast that way you odn't have to worry about fatigue
 

Xeteh

Member
A tip for not running out of fatigue, you can coast the Broken Shores coastline until you get close to the Eyes coast that way you odn't have to worry about fatigue

Yeah, none of that was an issue its just such a slog with how slow swimming is. I constantly miss my shaman's water walking.
 

Lomax

Member
Has anyone else had an issue with followers not giving what they should towards class hall missions? Especially warlocks with Shinfel Blighsworn? It almost seems like her curse of agony ability is working as a negative.

Here's what happens, I add her as a follower and my chance to complete actually goes down, even though it should go up substantially. And her items alone should provide 25% towards the mission (in addition to at least 15% for her item level). And it wasn't just on this mission either, I've been seeing it for a while now.

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Edit: sorry about the large image size, they're screencaps from the app on my phone.
 

Shahadan

Member
"Oh suramar questline resets at midnight? cool! let's do this and complete the world quests while I'm at it"

*completes questchain*

"Thanks, now complete 10 world quests in Suramar!"

....fuck.
 

Renekton

Member
What is the correct way to deal with BRH bats?

Do you chain pull all the way to boss gate, or make stops at each demon pack?
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
What is the correct way to deal with BRH bats?

Do you chain pull all the way to boss gate, or make stops at each demon pack?

Stops at each pack. Can't do the full pull unless it's normal/heroic and you're overgeared. The problem is twofold. One: Fel Frenzy buffs every wrathguard. With a total pull you might be managing something like 7 stacks, which is 700% damage. Two: Sic Bats, which has all nearby bats focus fire a target. Again, with a full pull the bats will oneshot anyone they touch.

3rd legendary on my hunter. What in the fuck.
 

Strimei

Member
Has anyone else had an issue with followers not giving what they should towards class hall missions? Especially warlocks with Shinfel Blighsworn? It almost seems like her curse of agony ability is working as a negative.

Here's what happens, I add her as a follower and my chance to complete actually goes down, even though it should go up substantially. And her items alone should provide 25% towards the mission (in addition to at least 15% for her item level). And it wasn't just on this mission either, I've been seeing it for a while now.



Edit: sorry about the large image size, they're screencaps from the app on my phone.
I noticed a similar problem at one point for me, turns out that I wasn't noticing how one change (in this case, the third champion reduced mission time) actually ended up invalidating a buff (one of the other champions had a buff that increased success rate for missions over 8 hours, champion #3 reduced it below).

May be something similar here.
 

v1perz53

Member
Stops at each pack. Can't do the full pull unless it's normal/heroic and you're overgeared. The problem is twofold. One: Fel Frenzy buffs every wrathguard. With a total pull you might be managing something like 7 stacks, which is 700% damage. Two: Sic Bats, which has all nearby bats focus fire a target. Again, with a full pull the bats will oneshot anyone they touch.

3rd legendary on my hunter. What in the fuck.

There are some interesting things you can do with the bat staircase too, which I learned from Mythic+ necrotic. If you pull the felguards from the first platform area back down and head back enough, the bats that come down won't aggro you, and you quickly only have a pull of felguards. Similarly, if you pull all of the top felguards and move back to the (closed) door leading to the final boss, you can also find a spot where you won't aggro any more bats. Meaning you can do all felguard pulls completely avoiding infinite bats, very helpful for certain Mythic+ runs especially necrotic.
 

Tarazet

Member
We finished a Neltharion's Lair +9 in time on Sunday with a bear tank. Should be able to attempt our first +10 this week, seems like the affixes are a bit easier for a heavy melee comp like ours. We ran Paladin, Monk, Shaman for DPS.
 

Lomax

Member
I noticed a similar problem at one point for me, turns out that I wasn't noticing how one change (in this case, the third champion reduced mission time) actually ended up invalidating a buff (one of the other champions had a buff that increased success rate for missions over 8 hours, champion #3 reduced it below).

May be something similar here.

I thought that was the case for a while, but if you look closely at the image it still shows her buffs as being active, and the mission is 10 hours long, which should still activate all of them. I'm wondering if there's some conflict with the warlock 20% shorter missions class hall ability, I've just replaced it so I'll see what it's like tomorrow. It's been pretty frustrating though because it has really gimped my ability to get mission bonuses while my paladin's followers all work just fine.
 
Was about to put the 100 coin on my Shammy but then the profesion bonus dont work on tiral characters so I have to level up a fresh char for the bonus.

I dont want to do the pandaran storyline again
 

v1perz53

Member
Was about to put the 100 coin on my Shammy but then the profesion bonus dont work on tiral characters so I have to level up a fresh char for the bonus.

I dont want to do the pandaran storyline again

What do you need the profession bonuses for? Nothing in legion crafting or gathering requires anything over lv 1 plus doing the quests.
 

Lain

Member
Finally found a legendary on my BM hunter, and it's the bracer =( I wanted the belt or the boots or the ring, belt especially since I'm running killer cobra. Ah well, in time I'll find them.
 

v1perz53

Member
Enginering and Alchemy, for the toys and utility plus alchemy for flasks

You can use everything for alchemy at skill level 1, flasks and all. None of my legion alchemists started at past 1. Engineering is a good point though since you need like 425 for mailbox or 600 for blingtron.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
bonus rolled loot on both characters this time around. Cloak was a downgrade for my druid but the chest was a upgrade for my monk. Nothing forged :(
 
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