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How would this be executed to set it apart from Red Dead? Could it even be done effectively in your opinion?

 

[SJRB]

Ubi is never going to do this because even though RDR2 is 7 years old at this point it would still absolutely body whatever sludge Ubi puts out and fold them like a lawn chair.

 

[R6Rider]

Could it? Yes, but slim chance of being executed well.

 

[Topher]

I think AC works best in old sprawling cities. Old west is too empty.

 

[LordCBH]

Honestly it’s a very cool setting, and a cool AC story could be told there. But I don’t think it works for the flow of the AC gameplay. They should take another crack at New Orleans.

Or like a prohibition era US city could be pretty cool too actually.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

No, let's do Mesoamerica.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Better idea: Just let it die already

 

[Topher]

Honestly it’s a very cool setting, and a cool AC story could be told there. But I don’t think it works for the flow of the AC gameplay. They should take another crack at New Orleans.

Or like a prohibition era US city could be pretty cool too actually.

Chicago would be a great city for an AC game

 

[Gaiff]

I think AC works best in old sprawling cities. Old west is too empty.

*Blend in crowd. Hide in plain sight*

Fucking where?

 

[rubenburgt]

Please dont.

I dont like western games, and an assassin in a gun loving country in a time period of cowboys just doesn't sound right

 

[PauloRoberto]

I absolutely hate RDR2 minute-by-minute gameplay, but there is no other way to put it... they WANTED to create a good western game. Ubisoft wants to be on headlines once per year thinking that its new AC game is changing or spearheading industry.

 

[El Muerto]

It wouldnt work. Western towns back then were small and spread far apart with nothing in-between except prairie fields, mountains, or deserts.

 

[mayham2199]

An AC game works in pretty much any period.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

How would this be executed to set it apart from Red Dead? Could it even be done effectively in your opinion?

No thanks

 

[Lokaum D+]

its time to make assassins creed a assassin game again, would love to see something like Hitman for this franchise.

 

[Shadowplay1979]

Period could work if the main area was san fran in the 1880s with california countryside to the rockies. After they fucked up the long wanted ac japan though...who really cares

 

[R6Rider]

its time to make assassins creed a assassin game again

Mirage was very much old style AC. Give it a shot if you haven't.

 

[dorkimoe]

no but ill take another western from someone

 

[March Climber]

Period could work if the main area was san fran in the 1880s with california countryside to the rockies.

This would simply end up being the game that connects AC to Watch Dogs.

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and I would like that.

 

[Blank Space Invader]

How about Ubi stops making Assassin's Creed games for awhile, given how they're royally fucking up the one entry that everyone wanted since forever? RDR did western right, so unless someone else is going to come correct then let the western genre rest until someone else with the skills to do it right comes along.

 

[Shadowplay1979]

This would simply end up being the game that connects AC to Watch Dogs.

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and I would like that.

but watch dogs is even more cringe then AC, "Yo chill this aint cap , im totally low key shook while adulting" levels of cringe. The world was nice looking though ( in 2 )

 

[RoboFu]

As long as they put a Russian as the main character.

 

[Aion002]

I don't think the series are compatible with the setting.

However, maybe during the American Civil war... Something like: The Creed and Templars fighting for a piece of eden during the war.

They could make it like they did AC2, two big cities accessible only via fast travel and a third map with a open field and small towns. The game could focus on New York and New Orleans, for the traditional big cities gameplay of the series, then another map with some small towns and other traditional wild west stuff.


They could even toss in naval battles similar to AC3.


Old Ubi could probably make it work, current Ubi.... I dunno.

 

[amigastar]

Didn't Assassins Creed III play in the old west?

 

[March Climber]

but watch dogs is even more cringe then AC, "Yo chill this aint cap , im totally low key shook while adulting" levels of cringe. The world was nice looking though ( in 2 )

The good news for you is that only 1 out of 3 WD games feature heavy hip hop lingo.

 

[R6Rider]

Didn't Assassins Creed III play in the old west?

No that was colonial US. More specifically the Northeast.

 

[Shadowplay1979]

The good news for you is that only 1 out of 3 WD games feature heavy hip hop lingo.

Its not hip hop lingo...its millenial /gen z lingo. The first twogames have that and those kinds of characters..... and the third game looks like it features tons of characters that look like that. I havnt played it. To be honest, its the kinda cringe that is UBIs shtick across all their games.

 

[Danjin44]

Better idea: Just let it die already

This, how long are they gonna continue the story? Any good story need end at some point with satisfying conclusion.

But seems Ubi want keep making AC forever and story has become a mess even worse than Kingdom Hearts.

 

[DanielG165]

It could, but RDR2 kind of wrote the Bible for old American west video games. There won’t be another game set in that time that will ever top it, period.

 

[March Climber]

This, how long are they gonna continue the story? Any good story need end at some point with satisfying conclusion.

But seems Ubi want keep making AC forever and story has become a mess even worse than Kingdom Hearts.

You misunderstand what has happened in this series since AC 3. The Desmond arc is over and his story was completed. It has been over since AC 3.

Right now there isn't really a primary character nor driving factor outside of the animus, not on the level of something like Yakuza or Kingdom Hearts. Instead now each entry in the series has become more of a 'peek into the history of this moment in time as we tell a story' similar to what the history channel used to do with shows like Vikings. Sometimes they will have you come out of that experience to learn more about Abstergo or whatever fake company name they're using at that moment in time, but it's just background to the actual historical fiction tale they're telling.

 

[aerts1js]

I’ve always liked the idea of an assassin’s creed set in world war 2 like stalingrad or something.

 

[Danjin44]

You misunderstand what has happened in this series since AC 3. The Desmond arc is over and his story was completed. It has been over since AC 3.

Right now there isn't really a primary character nor driving factor outside of the animus, not on the level of something like Yakuza or Kingdom Hearts. Instead now each entry in the series has become more of a 'peek into the history of this moment in time as we tell a story' similar to what the history channel used to do with shows like Vikings. Sometimes they will have you come out of that experience to learn more about Abstergo or whatever fake company name they're using at that moment in time, but it's just background to the actual historical fiction tale they're telling.

But isnt entire point of Assassin organization is to fight Templars.

If that’s case why even bother with animus and Assasins, just make new IP about that time period.

 

[rofif]

No. Ac needs verticality

 

[March Climber]

But isnt entire point of Assassin organization is to fight Templars.

Yes. They do so in different ways throughout history, as illustrated in each game.

If that’s case why even bother with animus and Assasins, just make new IP about that time period.

Because it's their connective tissue as a brand, like Final Fantasy and it's specific brand of creatures and magic per entry, or SMT and their brand of creatures and magic per entry.

 

[semiconscious]

yeah, not a whole lotta parkouring to be done...

 

[Shaki12345]

Only if Ubisoft isn't the developer.

 

[Zannegan]

No. Ac needs verticality

Maybe badlands/box canyons could do the trick? They wouldn't be urban or populated though. Tree parkour sounded like a good idea for AC3, but everything was too samey which made it bland. Actually, everything in AC3 was samey and bland.

 

[AJUMP23]

I would rather see them go more ancient than modern.

 

[BlackTron]

AC has brought new meaning to checklists.

 

[CokeDiet]

That would just be Blazing Saddles

 

[Nelly_Nel_7.1.3]

I think AC works best in old sprawling cities. Old west is too empty.

I will add to this comment by saying boring.

 

[Ribi]

Just mod red dead

 

[Edder1]

1. As others have mentioned, the setting of Old West just wouldn't fit in the framework of Assassin's Creed gameplay mechanics.

2. Ubi devs probably won't be able to help themselves and force you to play as first black female cowboy and we all know how that's gonna be received.

 

[Shift!]

Manifest Destiny would work, it could help raise awareness about the Louisiana Purchase and all the people who had to die to make it happen.

 

[N0S]

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

No, you can’t really hide or set up bad ass assassinations when the town only has a saloon, a church, stables, and a jail.

 

[Lord Panda]

As long as the main protagonist is Japanese then I'm all for it.

 

[Hudo]

Ubi is never going to do this because even though RDR2 is 7 years old at this point it would still absolutely body whatever sludge Ubi puts out and fold them like a lawn chair.

Don't know. There are certain areas where the AC games do stuff better than RDR2: Controls, how the narrative and missions are using (or at the very least not prohibiting the player from using) the open-world, combat.
I know it's fun (and justified, for the most part) to hate on Ubisoft but I just don't see RDR2 as the "best game ever" that some people are saying it is. It's just my opinion, but it's the weakest game by Rockstar so far.

But as others suggested, some of that sluggishness in the controls and combat can be alleviated by playing RDR2 in first-person.