Would you buy a new PlayStation system only for first party games?

Would you buy a new PlayStation system only for first party games?

  • Yes, I love Sony games and need them as soon as they launch

    Votes: 36 21.1%

  • Yes, but I'd pick it up on sale/after price drop

    Votes: 7 4.1%

  • Yes, but only if the PC ports end

    Votes: 13 7.6%

  • Yes, but only if I get a proper assurance their lineup won't suffer like on PS5

    Votes: 13 7.6%

  • No, I would not buy a new system only for Sony's first party games

    Votes: 102 59.6%
  • Total voters
    171
That's pretty much why I buy Sony consoles anymore, anyway.
 
DragonNCM said:
Games Released (2020-2025):
5 years & they pulled out 10 games.
Here is list of all PS first party studios

North America:
  • Bend Studio: Known for Days Gone.
  • Bluepoint Games: Specializes in remakes and remasters, most recently Demon's Souls.
  • Haven Studios: Currently working on Fairgame$.
  • Insomniac Games: Creators of the Ratchet & Clank and Spider-Man series.
  • Naughty Dog: Renowned for the Uncharted and The Last of Us series.
  • San Diego Studio: Primarily known for the MLB The Show franchise.
  • Santa Monica Studio: Creators of the God of War series.
  • Sucker Punch Productions: Creators of Ghost of Tsushima.
Europe:
  • Firesprite: Acquired by Sony in 2021, known for working on various projects including support for other studios.

  • Guerrilla Games: Creators of the Horizon series.

  • Housemarque: Known for Returnal and other arcade-style action games.

  • Media Molecule: Creators of Dreams and the LittleBigPlanet series.
Japan:
  • Polyphony Digital: Developers of the Gran Turismo series.
  • Team Asobi: Known for the Astro Bot series.
In my book this developers are tremendous money sink with their overinflated/overpaid workforce doing nothing.
Output of 1 game in 5 years( in some cases even 8 years) cant be profitable no mater how you do the math. Not to mention that if your game fails you are in big shit.
And I will surely not get next PS6 console for 10 games.....it is not worth. I will better wait few years & play it on PC then invest in new console.
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Playstation would count games like Returnal, Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, Death Stranding 2, etc. Not all their 2nd/3rd party games go to PC day 1. Mainly just the China hero project games since they need to be on PC for China day 1.
I think Playstation is best at filling the gaps with these kinds of games, and they've been some of my favorite games this generation. So it's hardly just filler.
 
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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Previous generations was a no brainer for me but as of right now the PS6 is a wait a see if first party games improve or I will just stick to PC gaming
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I voted Yes, I buy PS for first party because that is how I prefer it to be, but that isn't really how it feels these days. Feels like I have a PS to play one first party game a year. I'll be in "wait and see" mode going forward as well. Lack of showcase this year (again) has really taken the wind out of my PS sails.
 
They will have to step up massively on PS4 output.

Basically that many AAA + 4-5 AA per year + 2 GAAS per year.

That should do it. I have no qualms in getting system if I get a new game per month.
 
just based on this thread many got tricked into buying a ps5 after ps3 and ps4 great 1st party output.

we got demon's souls and 2 nice insomniac games with something new on consoles, RT at 60fps.

but the games stopped (as those were planned by the previous team, where is ratchet 2 btw?) and we got shit then, what was really planned by the managers in charge all along bar a couple of great games.

5 games in total in 5 years and only 3 games really exclusive. if you have a decent pc, you dont need a ps5, and likely a ps6 as all games will be released there anyways. great for nvidia and steam.
 
DragonNCM said:
Games Released (2020-2025):
5 years & they pulled out 10 games.
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There are many games missing, as seen in the URL I provided they released way more games, particularly games with an external lead dev team (but with most of the people working on it being from internal Sony teams or outsourcing teams managed by XDEV) as is the case of Helldivers 2, Death Stranding 2, Stellar Blade and so on or even some internal title like Concord.

And well, in addition to new games they also released many remasters, remakes and ports, plus expansions/DLC.

DragonNCM said:
Here is list of all PS first party studios

North America:
  • Bend Studio: Known for Days Gone.
  • Bluepoint Games: Specializes in remakes and remasters, most recently Demon's Souls.
  • Haven Studios: Currently working on Fairgame$.
  • Insomniac Games: Creators of the Ratchet & Clank and Spider-Man series.
  • Naughty Dog: Renowned for the Uncharted and The Last of Us series.
  • San Diego Studio: Primarily known for the MLB The Show franchise.
  • Santa Monica Studio: Creators of the God of War series.
  • Sucker Punch Productions: Creators of Ghost of Tsushima.
Europe:
  • Firesprite: Acquired by Sony in 2021, known for working on various projects including support for other studios.
  • Guerrilla Games: Creators of the Horizon series.
  • Housemarque: Known for Returnal and other arcade-style action games.
  • Media Molecule: Creators of Dreams and the LittleBigPlanet series.
Japan:
  • Polyphony Digital: Developers of the Gran Turismo series.
  • Team Asobi: Known for the Astro Bot series.
In my book this developers are tremendous money sink with their overinflated/overpaid workforce doing nothing.
Output of 1 game in 5 years( in some cases even 8 years) cant be profitable no mater how you do the math. Not to mention that if your game fails you are in big shit.
And I will surely not get next PS6 console for 10 games.....it is not worth. I will better wait few years & play it on PC then invest in new console.
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You forgot to include Bungie, Team LFG, Dark Outlaw, and that in addition to Bluepoint (who after Demon's Souls now supports new games instead of making remakes/remasters) they also have other support teams like Nixxes, Valkyrie or Creative Arts (which includes many sub teams like Visual Arts).

And well, also XDEV managing the externally developed first party/second party stuff.

During the Jimbo + Hermen era, most of these teams grew considerably in size (they basically doubled the total SIE manpower in around half a decade) with the idea of helping them to work in more projects at the same time in most of the studios, following a model that Insomniac had (btw, Insomniac has two studios, isn't just one), or ship games faster.

But still yes, every generation AAA require more manpower and development time. The ones released nowadays/in recent years on average took around 5-9 years. When Hermen says they have over 25 games under development (that in reality are pretty likely over 35) means they spend a shit ton of money on development every year and that is hard to keep them profitable/sustainable, because revenue needed to recoup each AAA game exceeds the normal sales that like the majority of their games did in the previous generation in their console. They needed more revenue and profitability.

They saw it coming almost a decade decade ago, so Yoshida, Shawn Layden and company started a multiplatform strategy to expand their first party games mostly to PC and later mobile, while at the same time expanding to MP/GaaS genres, plus also making a push to move these IPs off-gaming via movies and tv shows, strategy that later Ryan and Hermen continued.

In an interview I think was from 2021, when Ryan was starting to publicly announce this strategy because the first of these GaaS were starting to be shown, he said that they expected to aprox. double their first party games revenue by 2026. We know the revenue they do outside PS, but not the one they have inside PS. But having the total revenue and the proportion of game sales, and knowing now the addons revenue highly increased vs 5 years ago party replacing game sales revenue, we can make a very rough estimation of their total first party revenue now and 2021.

By doing so, seems that they may already have doubled that revenue a year ahead or schedule, or at least are pretty close. Pretty likely that was one of the reasons of why they did promote Hermen.
 
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Yes.
Ive been a Playstation guy because i prefer their games- among a multitude of other things. (3rd party support, controller, etc etc.) Its always my main.
But ive also purchased every Xbox and Nintendo strictly for their exclusives. Exclusives are important.

I have since sold my Series X. First time i sell a current gen console
 
LakeOf9 said:
Sony made their name over the last couple of decades off the back of their very strong, very high quality first party output. With PC gaming rapidly becoming the standard across the board, and the ecosystem that more and more of the enthusiast audience is moving to as their primary place for gaming, the reason for a lot of people to buy a PlayStation would be for Sony's first party lineup.

Which brings me to the question - how well do you think a PlayStation that only has to sell on the basis of its first party lineup do? How capable is Sony of "pulling a Nintendo", so to speak? Assuming that every third party game can be found on PC - which is pretty much how things stand at this point - would you still buy a new PlayStation just for the promise of new titles from Sony studios and franchises such as Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Guerrilla, Sony Santa Monica, and Asobi / God of War, The Last of Us, Spider-Man, Ghost of..., and Astro Bot? Like the current scenario, assume that ports to PC of these games are not a given (but still may and do happen intermittently).

Are you willing to buy a PlayStation just for first party games? How much would you be willing to spend on it?
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I'd never buy a PS as my main 3rd party gaming platform if given a choice. I hate the controller and ecosystem. I love trophies though. And think they're better than xbox achivements and steam.
 
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I voted yes because I do like Sony first-party games even though the releases have slowed down. Fortunately, this is not a real choice I I have to make as it would be insane if third-party dried up on PS5 and there are some of those I prefer to play on consoles.
 
Now that 1st party also release on PC, even if a year later, thers no reason to buy a PS just for 1st party games alone. Thers other reasons why someone might want a PS, but PC ports combined with the weak 1st party output this gen, makes it hard to say yes.

As someone that that have been using consoles as main gaming platforms since the PS2, i might even skip next gen of consoles altogether and just stick with PC.
 
The only first party Sony game (and really the only game I still play for the most part) is Destiny 2. But that is also on PC, and who knows maybe Mac in the future (which is what I use).

The reality is that the quality and frequency of output across the entire industry has sharply declined this generation, Sony included. The hardware is vastly superior, but the software output across the board can't hold a candle to what we got on the PS3 and PS4 (both consoles I bought initially for a single exclusive game).

So would I buy a new PS console just for first party games? Probably not, given their current output and the fact that they port everything to PC anyway. But I probably won't buy a new console regardless because games are by and large garbage now and take forever to make.
 
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Usually Xbox is my multi platform system and with Sony, I ride out the previous slim model until something comes out that I need to play. This generation it was the latest AstroBot game. I knew the first one was packed in, but I didn't see anything about it that interested me. I now have a slim PS5 with a bunch of games to play and will be good until the PS6 slim.
 
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I picked 'Yes, but only if the PC ports end', though I'd like to have picked a 2nd option too (the 4th one). The way things are going right now, and considering I might be the least FOMO'd person on the planet, not to mention having a single device for both work and entertainment needs is already pretty convenient for me....then there's no reason for me to get a system to play the 1P Day 1.

When I know they're going to be ported to Steam (either Day 1 or within 12-15 months from the looks of things, though shorter in some cases like Death Stranding 2 I'm sure), that all the 3P console devs also support Steam Day 1 in 99% of the cases (only Take Two and Vanillaware are the exceptions at this point, seemingly), that makes PC an easy choice. Add to that all the 3P exclusives on storefronts like Steam that will never get console ports, and the choice gets even easier.

The only actual complication is, I hate Windows. And, there are options, but none quite offer the full range of software compatibility & stability (bloat notwithstanding) of Windows....yet. That's where Steam OS comes in; if Valve can further improve on that and streamline a few things, I won't mind switching to it even with an OEM PC or laptop. However, I'd actually prefer Valve bring back Steam machines, just y'know, doing it right this time. Meaning, them taking everything they've learned from the Steam Deck. A new Steam Deck console-like box with fully optimized Steam OS and some form of user upgradability would be a perfect solution for me on the PC side for gaming, and also work out nicely for work productivity.

Honestly, I wouldn't have an issue personally justifying a PS6 if SIE still had a regular flow of 1P AAA & AA releases, didn't seem gung-ho porting everything to PC in record time, potentially porting even more stuff to Xbox & Switch/Switch 2 (I still plan on getting a Switch 2 next year; hoping by then a new 3D Mario and/or Smash Bros will be out plus some additional big games), and could get more genuine 3P exclusives. But again, way things are trending, none of that seems like it will change, in fact I'm expecting nothing like the FF VII/Forspoken/XVI stuff as timed exclusives for PS6, and we already know games like Stellar Blade II and Marvel Tokon will be Day 1 on PC.

So in the absence of a large exclusives catalog, and considering (for me) PC gaming is relatively simple (I don't play on a beast setup whatsoever, but I'm fine with that), then its the features that'd have to sell me. But PS+ as a backlog for old games isn't appealing enough (especially as prices keep going on), paying simply to play games online isn't appealing at all, the web browser is still obfuscated, media playback options are scaled back vs PS3 somehow, SIE's customer service support is horrible, the refund policy is ass, and there's no way to track player engagement health of online games (or definitively know best time zones to jump in for the most player traffic). Also, no integrated community forums feature and basic QOL features either being obfuscated or nonexistent.

Katatonic said:
All these recent PS threads come off as market research for the competition.
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Since you mention it, the timing is kind of too coincidental isn't it?
 
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No real exclusives save for Nintendo means a big no for me sadly. Especially when weighed against the quality of their output. To me the damage is done and currently I'm heavily leaning towards just leaving modern gaming altogether save for indie and some 4rd party stuff and I can get that on PC, or maybe down the line a Switch 2 because they at least known that exclusives and unique features(or gimmicks to others) provide reasons for the consumer to invest in their walled garden.

The only "exclusives" I've enjoyed this gen are found elsewhere and can be modded so why would I want to pay more for less. I've actually never had less of a reason to buy a console which is a damn shame. Never thought it would come to this but hey, modern entertainment across the board really. At least classics and obscure stuff that passed me by are still around, all of which are vastly superior in my opinion.
 
Voted yes. That's been why I got Ps1 to Ps4.

They've pivoted too much from my tastes going into Ps5. There's pretty much only Spider-Man 2 and AstroBot I'm interested in.

But I'm happy to buy any system with a lot of first party software I want to play.
 
Don't see myself ever buying a Sony console again. They used to have some neat first-party stuff but imo that's no longer the case, and what's there like Horizon or Naughty Dog games doesn't interest me at all.
 
That's the reason why I've decided to keep playing on PlayStation since the PS3 even tho the PS2 had bajillions of games (that gen was the last gen I owned a Nintendo system, purple lunchbox is goat Nintendo HW), if that is gone, so it's the need to buy their systems
 
Fuck no!

Ugh. I feel dirty at the thought of buying an assembly of hardware just to worship at a company's altar, particularly when so many of their games are mediocre. Gross.
 
No chance... Sony's output this gen has been the worst in its history and after all the game cancellations I see it getting worse with studio closures incoming.

Management is all over the place with bad decisions and shockingly bad acquisitions.

They seem more interested and invested in gay parades and chasing the girl boss phase than making good games, I'll be switch and pc only in the future.
 
I play my PS5 to play the (timed) exclusives ASAP and to party up with friends. Oh, and sometimes because I can find a game cheaper on PS5 than PC.

Everything else is PC. My four-year-old RTX 3080 still outperforms even the PS5 Pro, so it's my go-to.

Looking back at the PS5, I'm still glad I got it, but it's been a very disappointing generation.
 
Never bought a PlayStation system at all, I don't care about it (first or third party, it doesn't matter, I can play the games I like on other systems).
 
5 years into the generation and the only 1st party I game I really liked was Returnal which I played on Steam. Only way I'm buying another Sony console is if it's a good handheld.
 
LakeOf9 said:
With PC gaming rapidly becoming the standard across the board, and the ecosystem that more and more of the enthusiast audience is moving to as their primary place for gaming
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Some of you really need to move outside of your forum bubble. The delusion in this statement is hilarious.
 
Never. First party Sony games have been a catastrophe.

Next year I'll get Nintendo Switch 2 and Playstation will be demoted as a third party games.
 
PlayStation has never been about JUST Sony first-party games. But, Sony's first-party games are good enough, that I would still.

Luckily, PlayStation gets basically all third-party games and now Microsoft first-party games too.

That along with a Switch 2 for Nintendo first-party and I'm set. Xbox is already sold, as it has become completely useless without exclusives.
 
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