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Shadowplay1979
Member
You pass on your genes to extend into immortality.....so no you would just be around to witness it. With immortality would just come new ways to experience life or how time/space/life works. Existence only carries the meaning you put into it.
Master Of Illusion
Member
Well Life's terms of agreement have always been terrible. Find a way to rewrite that, then may immortality be euphoric.
Also this universe is way too vast. Confining one-self to exist for less than a century is practically worthless.
Also this universe is way too vast. Confining one-self to exist for less than a century is practically worthless.
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Pagusas
Elden Member
Your thinking is too limited and defined by what you know of life as it is now. All the poetry and fiction and philosophy of the world is of a single perspective, that of a mortal one, and thus can not be used to understand an immortal one. What we mortals define as being “alive” might have a complete different meaning to someone immoral, what matters and what does not would be completely different to them.
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I'm still trying to fully grasp existentialism. It's harder when not making the effort to live out the philosophy in daily life, although I do find the arguments compelling.
The universe seem so unapologetically logical that's it's more or less indifferent to human suffering.
Existentialism does seem to provide me with some comfort with that dilemma, or at least what I understand of it.
No need to waste time nor energy seeking inherent meaning where there likely is none to be had.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Immortality like you couldn’t ever get hurt no matter what happens to you or immortality where you can live forever age-wise but can still be killed?
KrakenIPA
Member
Yeah, that one. Would you find life meaningless in that situation?
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Maybe eventually, it’d open a galaxy of possibilities (literally) and before you get off the planet there’d be all sorts of fun things to try like being shot out of a cannon or driving out of an aeroplane or even just exploring oceans and getting stronger than Goku.
Like intelligent forms of life capable of perceiving higher dimensions or experiencing spacetime in a non-linear fashion?
Are immortal forms of intelligent life even actually feasible? My understanding of it is essentially having an indefinite life span in this universe, but is that even what it even is?
I believe the former. I feel like the latter is a lesser form of immorality and the former is immaterial and some form of "god hood." Being able to perish still caries some consequence and making choices more meaningful? Your existence would not violate the laws of physics.
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Q briefly becoming mortal is probably up there as one of my favorite Star Trek episodes. A little goofy, but profound at least imhoI mean, doesn't he look depressed?
MaestroMike
Gold Member
our species blood line has been alive for a very long time. we are one in the same and related to each other descended from common ancestors. one of us dies the core is still ticking and kicking. our ability to be extremely social creatures and co-operate/coordinate/communicate with each other extremely well is what brought us to the top and enable us to act as one unit and do big things. we're learning and discovering new things every day; creating new and better tools that we can pass onto future generations and make their life better/easier/more developed. there is still a lot of work that needs to get done, but living can be really, really fun and rewarding thats enough reason to be alive for a long time and to keep the human race going...because life is fun !!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
No. The current impermanence of life does not implicitly grant it meaning.
Life is what you make of it.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If the average human lives to lets say 75 years, I'd say 200 would be a good enough age limit.
Immortality wouldn't make sense as you'd be bored to death and go crazy. A billion years from now when the earth explodes, you'd be floating in space forever.
Immortality wouldn't make sense as you'd be bored to death and go crazy. A billion years from now when the earth explodes, you'd be floating in space forever.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
You’d have time to find a way to fix any issues you may have, your brain shouldn’t deteriorate given your immortality.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Unless you learn everything you can and when the time comes either fix it’s demise or relocate.
Lionel Richie
Member
Life's a bitch and then you die.
Life's a bitch and then you don't die.
Does it even matter?
Life's a bitch and then you don't die.
Does it even matter?
Ikutachi
Gold Member
A fate worse than death. Even if living on another planet will be achieved before that happens, you'd have to be careful during your time on Earth not to get trapped where no one can find you.
The Hamburglar
Banned
If we had some kind of population control it would solve most of the worlds economic problems. No more old age and old taking up healthcare; failing organs is part of old age too.
No more retirement; you’d work forever. No state or work pensions needing to be paid out. No other public welfare spending on old people homes etc.
I think after 100 years of sleep work shit sleep repeat life would become meaningless. Personally I’d be happy with that though. I’d rather live forever than turn into oblivion.
No more retirement; you’d work forever. No state or work pensions needing to be paid out. No other public welfare spending on old people homes etc.
I think after 100 years of sleep work shit sleep repeat life would become meaningless. Personally I’d be happy with that though. I’d rather live forever than turn into oblivion.
ClanOfNone
Member
I have often wondered what different paths mankind might have taken with longer lifespans. When you think about it, we live an insanely short time, humans never see (or care about) the long range implications of the decisions that we make because "fuck it, I'll be long gone by then."
That would be a very long while though. Think of all of the entertainment you could consume, skills you could master, places you could go, and technology changes over time so you could experience so many new things. Yes, I agree that it could get boring but life is what you make of it.
Are we talking about not being able to be killed immortality like wolverine style or modest healing factor that allows you to live for all eternity unless someone kills you?
Irobot82
Member
One of the best shows ever made. Fucked me up bad thinking about it. I think I'd still prefer not existing over being bored but I think it would take me a very long time to get bored.
Part of what makes living within an general time limit is figuring out what we're going to do with it.
When you don't have to worry about when you're time is up, then you'd most likely be met with the dread of find new things to do.
Eventually you'll have trouble with doing something new and most likely go insane.
Immortality isn't worth it, IMO.
When you don't have to worry about when you're time is up, then you'd most likely be met with the dread of find new things to do.
Eventually you'll have trouble with doing something new and most likely go insane.
Immortality isn't worth it, IMO.
showernota
Member
If people suddenly had immortality while it was still possible to die from an accident or something, society would collapse.
Everyone would become obsessed over living forever, and remove themselves from any possible risk. They'd travel less, stay indoors, become paranoid that someone they know could murder them.
Life would become this crappy Bruce Willis movie, basically.
Everyone would become obsessed over living forever, and remove themselves from any possible risk. They'd travel less, stay indoors, become paranoid that someone they know could murder them.
Life would become this crappy Bruce Willis movie, basically.
MastaKiiLA
Member
Not for me. I'd relish the chance to see all the technological advancements. Imagine living long enough to explore the rest of the solar system or even travel to other stars. Life is what you make it, so if your purpose/dreams spans multiple lifetimes, then immortality is a gift.
Armorian
Banned
Yep, aside biological drive for having kids there not much to do... some people try to find this stuff in religion but I'm more into hedonism myself - life is short so i maximize time spend on things that make me happy (time with my girlfriend, playing video games, watching anime/movies etc.), too bad i still have to go to work...
GreenAlien
Member
There is no meaning beyond what you give it. Personally, I think immortality would be something I could enjoy for quite a long while.
Also, statistically most "immortals" would have a fatal accident at some point not too far into the future, so as long as we are just talking "infinite lifespan" it's not all that much longer than regular life span.
Also, statistically most "immortals" would have a fatal accident at some point not too far into the future, so as long as we are just talking "infinite lifespan" it's not all that much longer than regular life span.
Airola
Member
How long it would take for some morally good person to say fuck it and start to do all sorts of immoral acts? Would being good start to become boring before or after living the first 1000 years?
Should the worst crimes warrant people to get a life sentence that would make them be in jail for eternity?
How many people would be trapped in some Fritzl dungeon for 1000 years?
How many people would be trapped in some grave underground forever? Maybe that would be some kind of a mafia or a drug cartel punishment?
Should the worst crimes warrant people to get a life sentence that would make them be in jail for eternity?
How many people would be trapped in some Fritzl dungeon for 1000 years?
How many people would be trapped in some grave underground forever? Maybe that would be some kind of a mafia or a drug cartel punishment?
Heaven set?
With what happened to Hypatia, Lethe might not only be a regimen of immortality but imposed.
With what happened to Hypatia, Lethe might not only be a regimen of immortality but imposed.
Dark Star
Member
It could make life meaningless if suddenly everyone on planet earth was immortal and nobody was dying so the world is becoming severely overpopulated daily. I mean, doesn't a person die every 10 seconds or something? If nobody died then imagine a large city like New York filled with a billion people and only a fraction of them have jobs, food and housing lol. It would be a mess.
It wouldn't be such a mess if all immortals were forced to explore the cosmos and invade other habitable planets. Our human race would not only be immortal, but only mortals would be allowed to continue living on earth, and immortals would expand the race into other solar systems and galaxies in space.
This is all assuming we'd have the technology to do both! Sci-Fi time: Like once you reach the age of 50 or whatever, you're permitted to become an immortal if you choose to. Then you board a very large rocketship/spaceship powered by a battery that lasts a 1000 earth years to explore the universe. But the trade off is that you can never return to earth unless to swap the battery, or you have something truly valuable to bring back to the mortals.
It wouldn't be such a mess if all immortals were forced to explore the cosmos and invade other habitable planets. Our human race would not only be immortal, but only mortals would be allowed to continue living on earth, and immortals would expand the race into other solar systems and galaxies in space.
This is all assuming we'd have the technology to do both! Sci-Fi time: Like once you reach the age of 50 or whatever, you're permitted to become an immortal if you choose to. Then you board a very large rocketship/spaceship powered by a battery that lasts a 1000 earth years to explore the universe. But the trade off is that you can never return to earth unless to swap the battery, or you have something truly valuable to bring back to the mortals.
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GeorgPrime
Banned
As soon as we get immortals, i will prepare some nice head boxes to sent them to depths of the ocean. How do you feel now about being an immortal huh?
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sunnysideup
Banned
I dont think people will be bored. I dont think human brains can handle immortality.
We will just forget everything after a while.
We will just forget everything after a while.
Grand Theft Scratchy
Banned
I don't think it'd make life meaningless. You would live longer and continue to learn and experience new things. That we might travel to other worlds in our galaxy is an exciting prospect.
nkarafo
Member
If humanity stays the same, sure. But imagine someone being immortal since 2000 years ago. Imagine having lived through all the shit you know from human history and being alive and well in the smartphone/internet era. And you will still be there when humans start colonizing other planets or even explore other galaxies.
You would also have the time to fill your brain with as many skills as you want. Music instruments, martial arts, sports, etc.
It's slow, but not meaningless.
You would also have the time to fill your brain with as many skills as you want. Music instruments, martial arts, sports, etc.
It's slow, but not meaningless.
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lukilladog
Member
The meaning of life seems to be in itself, the state of being alive, it would not be a problem if that is true.
