Wow, i'm such a loser

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Vox-Pop said:
I'm alway scared that I'm going to say the wrong thing.
Why? Whatever you say would be what you want to say, and if she doesn't like what you say, she doesn't like you, and life goes on, you don't want her anyway.

For all the "I'm not changing to be someone I'm not" talk that people with woman problems have, you all seem to be very concerned with being who you think they want.
 
Shanadeus said:
Just seek out women in other venues more suited to someone of your personality and nature - like Internet dating or trying to chat up women on message boards (I heard that GAF has plenty of fertile female members).

Don't try to "grow balls" or "man up" if that's not who you are, there's nothing sadder than someone trying to change who they are in order to get some tail.

now i'm convinced you're a fake poster. there's no way you can be so wrong about pretty much everything, especially this.
 
lawblob said:
The biggest realization of my life was when I was 22. My room ate and i were tired of getting nowhere with girls, because we were nice, occasionally nervous, etc. It's alarming how much action you can get when you are willing to just hit on girls. They respond to confidence. Sure, you'll get some rejection; but a decade later i still think of the time I asked for the number of the girl working at the shoe store in the mall. The hottest chest i have ever seen in my life, naked on my couch two days later, all because I stopped myself after walking out of the store, smacked myself on the cheek, and went back in there and started chatting.

Once you recognize that it doesn't matter if a girl shoots you down, you will see that its not so hard. The key is being confident enough to not give a fuck.

Aside from confidence; it's obvious stuff. Dress sharp, get decent hair, bathe, lift weights, etc., all these things can only help... And obviously, you have to possess basic conversational skills.

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This is the only advice you need OP.

Well, this too:

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Seriously.

Just try, over and over and over and over and over again.

Don't think about it. Just do it.

You will never appeal to all 3/4 billion women on this Earth...but you're bound to be able to sucker more than a few of them more often than not by simply waging your war of attrition.

Go take care of yourself - it is important that you look like you give a damn about yourself.
Don't talk about how much of a damn you give about yourself, though - that's posing. Look like you give a shit - act like you don't.

Every woman (and frankly, every man too) should think that Kanye West line from "Stronger" every time you appear anywhere they are - they should feel honored by your lateness, that you would even show up for this fake shit. You don't get that way by talking - you convey that with how you carry yourself.
 
jon bones said:
now i'm convinced you're a fake poster
Í'm just saying that Meus will lose my respect if he tries to change himself in a misguided quest to the pussy pedestal.

There are probably a couple of hundred thousand women out there who fulfill all your criteria and want the person you are right now.
 
Shanadeus said:
Í'm just saying that Meus will lose my respect if he tries to change himself in a misguided quest to the pussy pedestal.

There are probably a couple of hundred thousand women out there who fulfill all your criteria and want the person you are right now.


ATTN: Meus

You can gain infinite pussy and self-respect by doing a few things differently (without selling yourself out), or you can keep doing what you're doing and maintain Shanadeus' internet respect for you.

Choose wisely.
 
Shanadeus said:
Í'm just saying that Meus will lose my respect if he tries to change himself in a misguided quest to the pussy pedestal.

There are probably a couple of hundred thousand women out there who fulfill all your criteria and want the person you are right now.

then he shouldn't give a shit about your respect

self improvement is not pandering and is not a sign of weakness. get your ass to the gym, hone your social skills, clean yourself up, progress your career... i agree that this should not be done in the search for pussy but rather, as a way to enrich your own life. complacency is the weakest shit out there. love yourself, always be happy with yourself but never be satisfied.

captmcblack said:
Every woman (and frankly, every man too) should think that Kanye West line from "Stronger" every time you appear anywhere they are - they should feel honored by your lateness, that you would even show up for this fake shit. You don't get that way by talking - you convey that with how you carry yourself.

lots of kanye-isms are great for this. my favorite two:

"but with my ego i could stand there in a speedo and be looked at like a fuckin hero"

"and all my old girls know that i'm the one who got away"
 
Shanadeus said:
Í'm just saying that Meus will lose my respect if he tries to change himself in a misguided quest to the pussy pedestal.

There are probably a couple of hundred thousand women out there who fulfill all your criteria and want the person you are right now.

Improving your conversation skills is not changing yourself; it's improving yourself. It's important for a number of reasons, and finding a partner is only one of them. Internet dating is fine, whatever. Not my thing. But it's still a necessary skill to be confident in person when conversing with a stranger.
 
I think this is why I have resorted to chatting up men these days. I am too scared of the rejection from women I think.

Also, I don't have anywhere to meet people, and certainly won't do it at a bar. So much easier if I was in school. -_-;

GOOD LUCK. Just ask them, just fucking do it.
 
Klyka said:
Why do people care so much about women again?

Because people are human, and humans are generally relevant to one another at a molecular level.

Because intercourse feels good and we are designed to engage in it.

Because society says there is some work involved in procuring intercourse and long-term relevance between different human beings in the society.


People who are ruminating at length over what to say or what will happen if you say things to women: do you know that you'd find yourself shockingly successful if you didn't look like shit and you even blatantly went up to a random selection of 200 women and said flat-out "I think you're gorgeous and I'd like to take you out for a drink one time"?

If you did exactly that, I'd be willing to wager you'd get 10 people who'd agree.
 
MidnightScott said:
I think this is why I have resorted to chatting up men these days. I am too scared of the rejection from women I think.

Also, I don't have anywhere to meet people, and certainly won't do it at a bar. So much easier if I was in school. -_-;

GOOD LUCK. Just ask them, just fucking do it.

Go to a bar and order a cranberry juice. The ladies will never know. :) After the first one, you can just start saying "I'll have another!"
 
Sklorenz said:
Go to a bar and order a cranberry juice. The ladies will never know. :) After the first one, you can just start saying "I'll have another!"

I think I had confidence back then because when I was in 8th grade and 9th grade I just asked them and they said yes. So I must have something about me that they like, otherwise they wouldn't have said yes.

Also, they were friends first before I asked them. I never asked out just any random girls lol.
 
sangreal said:
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So true!

I've had success with randomly striking up conversations, just got to muster up the courage to say hi. If you get shot down, then fine, being rejected is part of life dude. Be careful not to come off as creepy though :lol
 
My advice is to start off talking to women who are, not ugly, but "below average" chances are they will be easier to approach/speak to. Do this to raise your confidence until you feel like you can go up to anyone you want and speak to them.
 
Just do it. Take care of yourself like someone said before. I let myself balloon in weight and didn't shave a few years ago, and that was my own fault for certain things and bouts with depression. Now that I've lost a considerable amount of weight and I am smaller in size than I was in my senior year of highschool, I can't help but feel more confident. I dress better -- no more baggy clothes. I shave and rock a bad ass goattee. I eat better. I smile more, and I am more happy in general. Never had myself a black girl so I'm casting my rod in the sea so I can cross "black girl" off my list. :lol :lol

No, but for real, take care of yourself and you'll notice a boost in confidence level. As Silvia says each time you're about to do a level in Viewtiful Joe, "Just go for it!" If you get rejected, at least you know you've tried and just resume the game on someone else. Do not look at a girl as the only one in existence and if that one hates/rejects you -- it's the end of the world. I will admit, I made that mistake myself. There is always a greater -- sweeter (or badder if you dig that shit) girl out there for your goofy ass.
 
SmokyDave said:
Take the plunge. If possible, purposefully seek out rejection. Once you realise it isn't the end of the world, I think you'll feel better.

SmokyDave said:
Take the plunge. If possible, purposefully seek out rejection. Once you realise it isn't the end of the world, I think you'll feel better.

SmokyDave said:
Take the plunge. If possible, purposefully seek out rejection. Once you realise it isn't the end of the world, I think you'll feel better.

SmokyDave said:
Take the plunge. If possible, purposefully seek out rejection. Once you realise it isn't the end of the world, I think you'll feel better.

SmokyDave said:
Take the plunge. If possible, purposefully seek out rejection. Once you realise it isn't the end of the world, I think you'll feel better.

As weird as this sounds, take this advice.
 
Liquid Helium said:
My advice is to start off talking to women who are, not ugly, but "below average" chances are they will be easier to approach/speak to. Do this to raise your confidence until you feel like you can go up to anyone you want and speak to them.
Skip the tutorial, half the fun is figuring out things in game
 
I think happiness is the key, just smile all the time. I remember people used to treat me very well before I got depressed. Everyone seems to find a woman eventually, even the most hideous and atrocious people.
 
spindashing said:
Do not look at a girl as the only one in existence and if that one hates/rejects you -- it's the end of the world.

Exactly.

There's more than one prize to be had. So you lose one? there are billions of others to be had. It's a mistake to view a woman as a "prize" because it leads you into thinking that you must win her heart when there are many other opportunities as well.
 
You guys ever wonder why women you've never met are infinitely more interested in you when you already have a girlfriend -- even (especially) when she's not around?

You think that's because they're pyschic? C'mon d00ds. They like guys that don't give a fuck. It's instinctual. Follow the hunter that knows where the food is.
 
I always look at picking up women as playing scratch tickets. You may get lucky on the first one, or it may take 100 before you get lucky. But if you keep playing, eventually you will win. It may be the $100,000 jackpot, or it might be a throwaway $1 junk ticket. But keep scratching and you'll get something.
 
PantherLotus said:
You guys ever wonder why women you've never met are infinitely more interested in you when you already have a girlfriend -- even (especially) when she's not around?

You think that's because they're pyschic? C'mon d00ds. They like guys that don't give a fuck. It's instinctual. Follow the hunter that knows where the food is.

Yeah, this. Since I've been engaged (3 years now), I've had two ladies come over knowing this full well, and while my fiance was upstairs, they started getting mega flirty (while friends were downstairs, no less). I found it fairly offensive, although it also seemed like a nice gesture :P Girls and guys, there's not a huge difference. Everybody's looking, and there's no reason to be hesitant.
 
Shanadeus said:
Í'm just saying that Meus will lose my respect if he tries to change himself in a misguided quest to the pussy pedestal.

There are probably a couple of hundred thousand women out there who fulfill all your criteria and want the person you are right now.
so he should stay a wuss?

thats horrible advice.

OP, basically take chances...dont worry about the outcomes, if you're analytic, you understand probability. and the probability of any outcome if you dont act is zero. however, there is a non zero probability of things happening when you say "hi". you might start babbling, you might look stupid and so on, but you do get better with this stuff as you practice. but you gotta start somehwere.

and try to put yourself in places where your personality may be more applicable, like Barnes and Noble for instance...plenty of girls there....
 
the simpler, the better. Be discreet, don't try to be someone else or to impress them with some over-complicated comedic scheme


you will NEVER say the wrong thing if you just say "Hey"
 
Shanadeus said:
Just seek out women in other venues more suited to someone of your personality and nature - like Internet dating or trying to chat up women on message boards (I heard that GAF has plenty of fertile female members).

Don't try to "grow balls" or "man up" if that's not who you are, there's nothing sadder than someone trying to change who they are in order to get some tail.
Theirs some really good advice in this thread, but this really isn't one of them. I can't say I agree with this at all.
 
Hah, you think you're a loser? Shit, the other day I was on a full bus, literally. Bus makes a tight corner and this gorgeous looking chick grabs my hand, so she doesn't fall over. The whole time while grabbing my hand she's red like a tomato, telling me how sorry and embarrassed she is and smiling at me. What do I do after the bus stops and we both walk out? Nothing. And I'm pretty fucking sure she could have easily grabbed someone else, plenty of people in there. I wasn't even in front of her.

Yeah, dude. You're not that terrible. :lol Disregard the consequences, you'll be happier. Just don't start French kissing random hot females on the street.
 
If you want to build up motivation to approach women you don't know (I've done it hundreds of times and it's never something that's super easy at first, especially if you haven't done it in a few weeks), than just stop masturbating so much. Once a week is plenty, this will push you to seek female gratification through talking to new women and not porn. No one talks about this, but too much porn/masturbation is truly the reason so many men are unhappy with their love lifes. Get out, have fun, approach, be cool, be nice, don't creep, give value. When the girl doesn't believe you're good enough for her, you could spent time trying to show her how cool you are in a subtle way, or else just bail and go talk to one that does think you're cool right off the bat. Obviously the cooler/more attractive you are, the higher the % of girls who would be open to your approach will be. But usually, you want someone that's up to your standards, and generally speaking if you're genuinely looking for something worthwhile (ie: not someone that's far above or below you), that's probably about 5-10% of girls out there, and it's the same % for every guy!
 
rvy said:
Hah, you think you're a loser? Shit, the other day I was on a full bus, literally. Bus makes a tight corner and this gorgeous looking chick grabs my hand, so she doesn't fall over. The whole time while grabbing my hand she's red like a tomato, telling me how sorry and embarrassed she is and smiling at me. What do I do after the bus stops and we both walk out? Nothing. And I'm pretty fucking sure she could have easily grabbed someone else, plenty of people in there. I wasn't even in front of her.

Yeah, dude. You're not that terrible. :lol Disregard the consequences, you'll be happier. Just don't start French kissing random hot females on the street.

Meus, your heart should be a bit like the grinch's after reading this. You're far from rock-bottom.
 
Next time you are on the bus/train or w/e, just think to yourself. If I do not talk to this girl I will grab the guy's cock (some random guy sitting beside you that you dont know).

And of course you do not want to grab the guy's cock so you will have to talk to the girl.
 
Girls like confidence! Just be confident in yourself and worse case scenario is that she will say no. Also just be yourself.
 
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