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(WSJ) Google to Spend Up to $500 Million Marketing 'Moto X' Phone

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Ripclawe

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324425204578598070710908536.html

As Motorola MSI +1.06% Mobility prepares to unveil its first flagship smartphone since being acquired by Google Inc. GOOG +1.57% last year, new details are emerging about the device's design and Google's substantial support for it.

The moves could have broad implications across the mobile industry.

Google is expected to allow its Motorola hardware unit to spend several hundred million dollars—and possibly upward of $500 million—to market the highly-anticipated device in the U.S. and some overseas markets, including in Europe, said people familiar with the matter.

All four major U.S. wireless carriers—AT&T Inc., T +1.36% Verizon Wireless, Sprint Nextel Corp., S +7.35% and T-Mobile—are expected to make the device available to their customers this fall, in part because of Motorola's marketing plans, said people familiar with the matter.

Motorola also succeeded in minimizing the amount of software and apps that wireless carriers will preinstall on the Moto X, these people said. Such software, also called "bloatware," has long drawn the ire of wireless customers.

Another selling point will be customization. Google is letting buyers of the Moto X to choose colors on the phone's front and back and engravings, these people said.

The price of the Moto X is expected to be comparable to its competitors, which include Apple Inc.'s AAPL +1.56% iPhone 5, Samsung Electronics Co.'s 005930.SE -0.30% Galaxy S4, and HTC Corp.'s 2498.TW -1.81% One, these people said.

Such devices cost $199 with a wireless contract and $599 or more without a contract.

A Motorola spokesman declined to comment, as did representatives of the four wireless carriers.

Motorola Chief Executive Dennis Woodside implied in recent public statements that prices for its devices would go down substantially over time, as the company won't be as concerned about inflating profit margins as its competitors. He also said the device would be "broadly distributed" but didn't elaborate.

In its first ad for the Moto X that ran earlier this month, Motorola played up the fact that it will largely be assembled in the U.S., a slap at Apple, whose devices are built in China.

Motorola's moves, including the expected unveiling of the Moto X later this summer, are being watched closely by the mobile industry. Mobile executives say privately that component suppliers such as microchip and sensor makers as well as wireless carriers hope Motorola or other hardware manufacturers can break the dominance of Samsung and Apple, which over the past four quarters accounted for half of the 770 million smartphones shipped world-wide, according to research firm IDC, and an even greater percentage of tablet shipments. Nearly a billion smartphones are expected to be shipped in total this year, the firm said.

Motorola sold about 2.3 million smartphones in the first quarter of this year, or 1% of the global market, IDC said.

"The industry is certainly rooting for Motorola as well as the other [manufacturers] to be successful" and break up the "duopoly" of Samsung and Apple, said Rajeev Chand, a managing director at boutique investment bank Rutberg & Co.


He added, however, that there is "skepticism" about whether Motorola can differentiate its products enough to take significant market share. "No one has a formula for success to rival Samsung at this point," he said.

Apple and Samsung have the benefit of sizable marketing budgets. The two companies spent $333 million and $401 million, respectively, to advertise mobile devices in the U.S. last year, according to Kantar Media, a unit of WPP PLC. WPPGY +1.90% Google may end up spending more money than that on the Moto X phone alone, people familiar with the matter said.

Motorola's Mr. Woodside, speaking at The Wall Street Journal's D technology conference earlier this year, discussed some features of the Moto X, including its long battery life and ability to be "contextually aware," meaning it will adjust to its surroundings.

For instance, the device's sensors will know when a person is driving and automatically offer them the ability to give voice commands to get information from the device, including making calls or getting directions, said a person familiar with the matter. Mr. Woodside also said the device will be able to sense when a person is trying to take photograph and help them bring up the camera app more quickly.

Motorola also is hoping to appeal to consumers by letting them customize the device. In addition to being sold in wireless carrier stores, the device will be sold online, where people can choose from different colors for its back panel and front-panel trim. Customers also will be able to have a written engraving on the back of the device, similar to what Apple offers to customers of iPod music devices and iPad tablets—but not the iPhone.

ABC News previously reported the customization elements.

Mr. Woodside said at the D conference that having the Moto X assembled at a Texas facility would bring its software and hardware engineers closer to the manufacturing process, which could help speed the product development phase. Another Motorola executive has said publicly that the proximity would make it easier for customers to receive the device faster.

People who have seen the Moto X, or were briefed about it, say that Motorola has high hopes the device can gain share in the crowded market. But they cautioned that flagship devices don't always catch fire right away and expectations for future generations of the device would be much higher. For instance, it was Samsung's Galaxy S3 smartphone—the third generation of its hero device—that propelled the brand to a point where it outsold the iPhone for a time, according to some analysts.

Less-rosy projections for the sales of the Galaxy S4, released earlier this year, have hurt Samsung's share price of late.
 
I want pure Android now. (On Verizon)

I almost went out and bought a used Galaxy Nexus cause I wanted the Music All Access app

Hurry up Mototola. Let me give you my money. Hopefully off contract
 

jtb

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I completely forgot Google bought Motorola. Interesting to see what impact this has on the market.
 

scott!

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I'm interested at the right price for an off-contract, unlocked phone. I've flitted between iOS and Android for years (always brief trials with Android phones and long stretches with iPhone). I haven't been impressed by iOS 7 on my iPhone 5, and if I could sell my phone, pick up a relatively inexpensive ($299, like Nexus 4) Moto X, and then pocket the difference, I'm all for it.
 
Hopefully it will be available in more countries then the nexus 4.

Googles fucking EU HQ is in Ireland but they dont sell hardware on the play store here and its not available from any of the carriers.
 
Moto X is the name of a phone I would never buy. Name it something bad ass, slam wireless charging on it and market the shit out of how Sammy and apple require a wired connection. Everybody loves gimmicks.
 

kurbaan

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DO NOT WANT. Phone probably has a built in PRISM chip. Direct link to the NSA.

But seriously concept of it seems cool but vanilla android doesnt really make it special at all.
 
Motorola also succeeded in minimizing the amount of software and apps that wireless carriers will preinstall on the Moto X, these people said. Such software, also called "bloatware," has long drawn the ire of wireless customers.

"Succeeded in minimizing [bloatware]" sounds like failure.
 
Yup, the quality on the phones has been shit for years.

Call me in 18 months when we can see how durable these things are with daily use, and shit warranties.

Physical durability? My Moto Droid Bionic has been dropped countless times onto pavement, once from seven feet high, and outside of a few scrapes and scratches, is in great condition. The OS on the other hand is bogged down and slow as fuck shortly after a factory reset.
 

sarcastor

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why not just get a nexus 4 for the same price? the only things that will sway me to buy a moto X is a better price and expandable memory.
 

TCRS

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Given the name I thought this would be a robust, waterproof outdoor version of a smartphone. Would buy it. Why has no one ever made such a phone?
 
why not just get a nexus 4 for the same price? the only things that will sway me to buy a moto X is a better price and expandable memory.

If the Moto X has a better battery and doesn't slide onto the floor whenever it is not on a totally plane surface, they would be making a case for the phone.

And if it runs stock Android and has inductive charging then they are really making a good case.
 

liquidtmd

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Yup, the quality on the phones has been shit for years.

Call me in 18 months when we can see how durable these things are with daily use, and shit warranties.

I'm not calling you out as these are not uncommon sentiments I've read on the net, and I don't know many people with a Moto phone but I've got a RAZR HD and its a beautiful beast.

Rooted, running AOKP, sturdy feel, has taken some beatings, has a camera that is far more quality driven then journalistic reviews on the phone suggested and the battery SMOKES pretty much all my friends handsets - from Galaxy's to Iphones. I get about two - three days of medium / heavy use. I don't believe I'm lucky enough to have the only reliable Moto handset in the world so what's the back story as to their history, Im not in the loop as to their past?
 

kehs

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I'm not calling you out as these are not uncommon sentiments I've read on the net, and I don't know many people with a Moto phone but I've got a RAZR HD and its a beautiful beast.

Rooted, running AOKP, sturdy feel, has taken some beatings, has a camera that is far more quality driven then journalistic reviews on the phone suggested and the battery SMOKES pretty much all my friends handsets - from Galaxy's to Iphones. I get about two - three days of medium / heavy use. I don't believe I'm lucky enough to have the only reliable Moto handset in the world so what's the back story as to their history, Im not in the loop as to their past?


The RAZR line has been pretty awesome. My sister has a razr maxx and loves it.

People are just being haters. Motos initial android push wasn't the greatest, mainly cause of Verizon being dipshits.
 

masud

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The RAZR line has been pretty awesome. My sister has a razr maxx and loves it.

People are just being haters. Motos initial android push wasn't the greatest, mainly cause of Verizon being dipshits.

Pretty awesome compared to what? Cause yeah a RAZR would be pretty awesome compared to like a rotary phone, but compared to another equivalently priced smartphone? Yeah no...
 
DO NOT WANT. Phone probably has a built in PRISM chip. Direct link to the NSA.

But seriously concept of it seems cool but vanilla android doesnt really make it special at all.

Unfortunately this probably isn't too far-fetched. While it is somehow possible to make sure that Android is secure due to it being Open Source, this isn't enough. GSM phones always have a second microprocessor integrated which is responsible for the GSM baseband and which is using a closed-source firmware. This firmware may or may not feature possible backdoors and is probably vulnerable to attacks. I am pretty sure the NSA has access to the source code of these firmwares.

And this isn't where it stops: The sim card is also a little computer which can execute code transmitted by your provider (or someone who claims to be your provider...). This is of course also not transparent for users. Only way to be relatively safe is to disable GSM/3G (which can also be easily used to track your position), and use VOIP/IM over Wifi with optional encryption. I will probably rather get a tablet, maybe the new Nexus 7 revision (without 3G...).
 

liquidtmd

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Pretty awesome compared to what? Cause yeah a RAZR would be pretty awesome compared to like a rotary phone, but compared to another equivalently priced smartphone? Yeah no...

The Razr HDs equivalent here pricewise in the UK at the moment is the Galaxy S3 and I find it pretty much identical if not better in terms of performance, maybe a slighter lesser camera but not noticeable, has a much nicer feel with the kevlar backing and 500mah extra battery.

Even if you prefer the Iphone or whatever, I just find it odd that many people on here just completely shit on Moto despite them producing solid, very comparable products - and in terms of reliability, companies like Samsung are far from blame free.
 

kehs

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Pretty awesome compared to what? Cause yeah a RAZR would be pretty awesome compared to like a rotary phone, but compared to another equivalently priced smartphone? Yeah no...

Of course they are. Great reception, super sturdy, great radios.
 

Charlatan

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The original article seems to be making a big deal about the marketing budget, as though that were the only reason people purchased Samsung or Apple phones. Which is dumb.

Sure, marketing plays a part, but I don't think it's the driving factor. I think capabilities and the ecosystem play a larger part.

Later on in the article though, they do actually point out some potentially interesting features:

For instance, the device's sensors will know when a person is driving and automatically offer them the ability to give voice commands to get information from the device, including making calls or getting directions, said a person familiar with the matter. Mr. Woodside also said the device will be able to sense when a person is trying to take photograph and help them bring up the camera app more quickly.

There's also a bit of customization to the phone. That doesn't appeal to me a whole lot, but I can see how some people might want it:

...people can choose from different colors for its back panel and front-panel trim. Customers also will be able to have a written engraving on the back of the device, similar to what Apple offers to customers of iPod music devices and iPad tablets—but not the iPhone.

The 'assembled in the US' part is amusing... but the claims they make about that are simply bogus:

...having the Moto X assembled at a Texas facility would bring its software and hardware engineers closer to the manufacturing process, which could help speed the product development phase. Another Motorola executive has said publicly that the proximity would make it easier for customers to receive the device faster.

having it assembled in the US will speed the product development phase? As an experienced software engineer they just made that part up. And having it assembled here makes it easier to get it to customers? I guess they haven't heard of air freight.

Regardless as to the marketing fluff, it appears this phone might have the marketing + features to survive in a very crowded market. I wonder how much all of the competing Android phone manufacturers will react to Google putting so much muscle behind the brand it owns though (that's certainly one way to poison your relationship with the other vendors). If nothing else, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
 

Futureman

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Pretty awesome compared to what? Cause yeah a RAZR would be pretty awesome compared to like a rotary phone, but compared to another equivalently priced smartphone? Yeah no...

weird comments. Solid phones from my experience. Killer battery life.
 
I'm not calling you out as these are not uncommon sentiments I've read on the net, and I don't know many people with a Moto phone but I've got a RAZR HD and its a beautiful beast.

I don't believe I'm lucky enough to have the only reliable Moto handset in the world so what's the back story as to their history, Im not in the loop as to their past?

I used to work at verizon customer care - the first people you talk to when your phone dies and you need help.

It becomes very, very apparent which phones are complete garbage, based on volume of calls.

"Yes Mrs Smith, Im sorry your 4th replacement has failed after only a week, let me connect you to tech support which can send you a 5th replacement"

Very few calls about Apple and Samsung products failing on their own. Obviously very few calls on things like the Casio phone, but thats because so few people owned it.

HTC and Moto? I wouldnt wish one of those phones on my enemy.

Mind you, Im not directly referring to the Razr models. As I said, you cant tell on day 1 if the phone will last the year or not.

Obviously, I hope google is cleaning that up. I wouldnt want to be first in line to test that out though.
 
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