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WSJ: Radio Stations Create More Repetition, Fearing Listeners Will Tune Out

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But anyway, I don't think it's that bad if you have a wide variety of radio stations programmed. I have 2 modern rock 3 classic rock, 1 classic hip hop/rap, 1 modern pop, 1 modern hip hop, 1 oldies/classic rock, 2 soft rock/pop and 1 Christian rock stations


I can pretty much always listen to something different and I keep up with new stuff, as well as discover new old stuff all the time, so it's not really that bad in LA
If you can even call that "Rock". There's nothing "Rock" about Royals for it to be playing simultaneously on the 2 homogenized stations. If I'm in just the right corner on a good day, I might catch 105.3 from San Diego. It is unmatched by anything you can hear in LA. There are basically 4 top 40 pop stations in LA now.

Commercial radio really is a blight on music enjoyment. My local 'rock' station is now playing more pop than anything. The 'classic rock' station is now playing 90's grunge and U2. Genres don't matter, only safe, familiar songs get repeat playtime.
Do you happen to live in the Los Angeles broadcasting area?
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
I think lorde is fine as an "alternative" sounding singer. They played Katy perry on kroq when she first became popular, so there is crossover that applies sometimes.

I don't know why you think she shouldn't get playtime on alt rock stations. The kind of music she makes appeals to people who typically enjoy rock music.


I think people who are trying to find some purity in traditional radio stations will always be disappointed. They're not going to play things people don't like to listen to for the sake of it.
 
As a delivery driver, I can't work without my iPod. Radio is so awful. I won't even run errands without my iPod. That 5-minute drive to the store is 5 minutes too long to be listening to the radio.
 

terrisus

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About a decade ago I wrote a script that recorded the playlist to all my local radio stations. One of the stats I pulled was "what number of songs represent half of all played air-time?" -- on a lot of the stations it was several hundred songs. On the Top 40 station, just 47 songs represented 50% of the airtime. Meaning you could buy a double CD that contains most of what is played on the radio.

That was a decade ago.

Well, isn't that kind of logical?...
 

Ripclawe

Banned
in the car a lot and its ridiculous plus the fact most of the stations in south florida are owned by the same companies, they all go on commercial breaks at the same time, the songs play at least every 90 mins. If it wasn't for sports talk and tunein, I would go nuts
 

terrisus

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Oh, by the way, to contextualize my posts in this thread a bit more -

I don't listen to music. At all. It bores me, I find nothing of interest in it, and would much rather have silence than noise all the time.

That said, my father has been a radio engineer since before I was born, and, around 1993 started his own station. It was a country station, not because he liked country - he didn't really care for it - but because that was what could be profitable at that time in that area. Around 1996 he jumped on the online broadcasting thing, simulcasting the radio feed through RealPlayer's new streaming network. So, through this all, a whole bunch of my youth was spent going with him around to various transmitter sites, radio broadcast rooms, and the various technical sides of things. Fun stuff. But music is still boring.

Anyway, he cashed out back in 2000 for around $3 million, and probably got out at a good time. He still does work as an engineer/inspector and such like that, but without having to worry about the whole trying to make a radio station profitable thing.

But, the upshot of my thoughts on the matter are twofold:
1) There's much more that goes into making a radio station profitable than just playing a wide variety of songs that people like/fit a specific need or goal. As the article in the OP states, repetition has made ratings go back up. People online might pontificate about the things they would like in a station, but the things that are actually profitable are often (not always, but often) quite different
2) Things such as online streaming, portable music players, .mp3s, etc. would have come along regardless, it was just a matter of time and the technology allowing it. And those things have caused dramatic changes in the traditional radio model, just due to their existence.

Change happens. That's just kind of part of life. Obviously some have adapted to it, others have given up, and others continue to be marginalized. But, that's just part of life.
 

Jarnet87

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FM is god awful down here in South Florida. The only saving grace is University of Miami's station. Every station besides them is a blend of pit bull spanish/dance music/robin thicke cookie cutter garbage.
 

SaviorX

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As much as Ebro denies it, he works off that payola system. It is like Little League baby, PAY TO PLAY.

I listen to NY hip-hop/rap/R&B radio but it is the same 10 songs over and over. I'm actually excited when I hear something good and new because it is an update to the typical rotation. But alas, the happens less often, moreso than ever before.

The business model can allow more overnight sensations yet gets more exclusive as the days go on. You better already have cash if you wanna get rich off radio. Do your research and craft a formulated hit with a repetitive monosyllabic onomatopeia section in the chorus or your ass is history!
 
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