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Wuthering Waves |OT| - Devil May Impact

Doom85

Member
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the fact that it's very nice to realize that the only group of users that can somehow influence the situation is the Chinese audience, and their "we hear the audience" is that Chinese players simply start writing letters to the Chinese government for every mistake they make. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

I don’t think that’s nice, they should take into consideration ALL their players who are supporting this game, but agree to disagree.
 
Just finished The Black Shores.


I like it too and I'm so pissed that Kuro tried to follow Mihoyo on so many things. The vibes are quite different from Genshin or HSR and they should have made their own thing for worldbuilding and storytelling, they don't feel in synch with the game atmosphere. To me, this game is a massive missed chance. Luckily, Endfield goes in another direction.
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
It was the flowers that were the problem. You had to either get them from regular enemies from the 2.0 continent, or the shop that was likewise stationed there. So the ascension items specifically from the boss weren’t the issue.

But I just arrived, and now she’s finally at Level 60. :messenger_grinning: And damn, is she just cutting through everything like butter now, holy shit.

Also, I legit thought Aalto was on the boat with us since it was his boat, and Rover just didn’t give a shit when only she was pulled from the ocean after the boat was attacked and Aalto was nowhere to be seen. I was like, “damn, Rover, don’t do him dirty like that!”

My brain didn’t register the line before we departed where Aalto mentioned the autopilot. Okay, so he’s back home safe and sound.

Reassuring Jimmy Fallon GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
Ah, it's a bit curious that they've added an easier method to get some of Carlotta's ascension mats via the early access option in the guidebook (e.g. boss mats), but didn't also put the flowers at the other pharmacies outside of the new region. Probably they wanted to encourage those who pulled Carlotta to rush to Ragunna. Anyway, enjoy Rinascita, it's peak gacha content! :messenger_sunglasses:
 
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SSfox

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So I played but not much since it came of PS5 cause not too much time. This game is pretty fun, thee is still not a lot of characters I'm super fan of but I like Yuanwu the most atm.

I was using mc + Yuanwu + baizhi. Then I'm using Calcharo Yangyang Verina

Now I'm thinking about going back to MC cause I prefer to play story using MC. So what you would recommend as team with MC? Guess Verina is must there too cause op healing? I'd like to use Hat man too. I'm confused on who to build now I don't want to spread too much and only focus on 3 characters atm
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
I like it too and I'm so pissed that Kuro tried to follow Mihoyo on so many things. The vibes are quite different from Genshin or HSR and they should have made their own thing for worldbuilding and storytelling, they don't feel in synch with the game atmosphere. To me, this game is a massive missed chance. Luckily, Endfield goes in another direction.
I haven't played Genshin much but I can clearly see some similarities when it comes to open world and traversal (WuWa is way better here imho). I dropped Genshin very quickly so as WuWa at first, but I've no regrets giving WuWa a second chance and I will never play Genshin again.


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Yet another great character story with great character development which is also tied to Rover's past👍

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Mayar

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Anyway, here are two Carlotta gifs I've made where she's doing a pouty face:
I was so disappointed that you stopped taking pictures of Zani that I did my own investigation due to a lack of testosterone in my body. :messenger_persevering:

In WuWa there is such a thing as a recommended role for a character, it is in the Resonator menu on the left side. This is of course not a mandatory value, but it roughly shows how the creators of the game see this character.
I decided to see what icons the new characters from 2.1 have.
Phoebe
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As we can see she has 3 icons in Сombat Roles
1) Main Damage Dealer - Her main role Main DPS
2) Concerto Efficiency
3) Spectro Frazzle - DOT
As a result, we see a character of the 1st position DPS, with a focus on Concerto Energy regeneration and DOT damage. That is, in Kuro they do not want to see this character as a character of the 2nd or 3rd position.

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He has more icons

1) Support and Healer - His main role is Healer
2) Basic Attack Damage
3) Fusion DMG Amplification
4) Resonance Skill DMG Amplification

To sum it up, from Kuro's perspective we see a Healer with low damage through basic attacks, with a focus on increasing Fusion DMG and the ability to increase Resonance Skill DMG. That is, a typical 2-3 position character.
We will of course see how it will be on release, but for now these are their official roles according to Kuro.
 
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I got Danjin off the weapon banner and looks like she will be good for my second team, I’m in the process of building her up but have a question on echos. I’m seeing Dreamless and Nightmare Crownless are recommended , which one is better?
I will be using her with havoc rover who is currently using dreamless.
 

T4keD0wN

Member
I got Danjin off the weapon banner and looks like she will be good for my second team, I’m in the process of building her up but have a question on echos. I’m seeing Dreamless and Nightmare Crownless are recommended , which one is better?
I will be using her with havoc rover who is currently using dreamless.
Very little of her damage comes from basic attacks so nightmare crownless wont bring much benefit, youll want low field time with her. Dreamless fits her playstyle as a quickswap burst damage character: heavy attack, ult, echo before swapping to Rover for the damage buff.

A more supportive set (the new havoc one ideally Midnight Veil) should actually be a lot better for her since itll make havoc Rover do a lot more damage. Just make sure concerto bar is full for the outro.
 
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Pejo

Gold Member
Roccia character showcase:


Fun trailer, it plays out like a short musical.

I'm still not 100%, but I think I'll pull for a copy of her. No weapon though. I really liked her grouping capabilities when we got to use her in the story for a bit, and that's what I have a lot of trouble with in some Tower floors and especially that horrible Pincer Maneuver mode. There's nothing worse than fucking your whole run by one enemy getting blasted away from the group and it makes you miss your score target chasing it down and throwing off your rotations. Frankly I'd rather they just did away with that mode entirely, but they seem dead set on keeping it.
 

Nankatsu

Gold Member
I really liked her grouping capabilities when we got to use her in the story for a bit.

Same, I liked her gameplay gimmicks, but I think she is one of those characters that will eventually get thrown into the Standard pull banner.

So I'll skip her for now, not worth the investment.
 

Mayar

Member
Fun trailer, it plays out like a short musical.

I'm still not 100%, but I think I'll pull for a copy of her. No weapon though. I really liked her grouping capabilities when we got to use her in the story for a bit, and that's what I have a lot of trouble with in some Tower floors and especially that horrible Pincer Maneuver mode. There's nothing worse than fucking your whole run by one enemy getting blasted away from the group and it makes you miss your score target chasing it down and throwing off your rotations. Frankly I'd rather they just did away with that mode entirely, but they seem dead set on keeping it.

Given what we know about her at the moment, this is a rather difficult situation, since there is essentially only one Havoc DPS in the game.
As I understand it, they see her as 2 for Camellya.

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After casting Outro Skill, the Utility of the incoming Resonator is replaced with Magic Box. Upon use, Magic Box pulls nearby targets towards it, dealing 100 points of Havoc DMG. This skill is considered Echo Skill that deals Utility DMG. The box lasts for 14s or until the Resonator is switched out.


Her Outro skill has some kind of vortex that sucks in enemies and prevents them from running away. Which is useful for her because Camellya has the worst mobility of all DPS in the game and suffers greatly from fast enemies and enemies that move chaotically, so pulling enemies together is a huge plus for her. Although most likely it only works on small enemies, not on elites and bosses, otherwise it would be broken.

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The incoming Resonator has their Havoc DMG Amplified by 20% and Basic Attack DMG Amplified by 25% for 14s or until the Resonator is switched out.


When switching from her to the next character, he gets a buff of +20% Havok DMG and +Basic Attack +25% for 14 seconds. Camellya is Havok's element and all her damage is Basic Attack, meaning she gets the full buff from her rotation.

We will of course see what will happen on release, but for now the diagnosis is this - For everyone who is going to play through Camellya and main her, she is practically mandatory to pull. For those who do not have her or do not plan to play her, there is no urgent need for it. There are simply no other Havoc + Basic Attack characters in the game at the moment.
 
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Doom85

Member
Yep, that's one of the reasons I went all in on pulling for Carlotta and her weapon too.

My brain didn’t even register it was Carlotta, LOL, I saw her name and got too excited to look at anymore. Makes sense, that sexy, sassy voice is totally Shadowheart.

I remember it’s early on in BG 3 when you recover after the events of the prologue level, and find her. If you pick the dialogue choice saying that we should get to know each other, she delivers the most enticing delivery of, “must we?”

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I mean, the whole voice cast of BG 3 is fantastic, and all the ladies brought their unique sexiness in their delivery in the romantic dialogue, but Jennifer was the best voice IMHO.
 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Looks like Kuro made a pretty dope MV for Dancing Through Fantasies (it starts at 02:35 in the video). Hopefully they'll upload it on Global soon as well.

 
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Doom85

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Devs are on the pizza with no pineapple team.
There was a note on the black shores dock before you go to Rinascita where they had a few funny notes about blending in there. A huge part of it was to never mention pineapple (or whatever the WuWa version of pineapple is) on pizza.

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Hey now, I just got to this section, and you all CONVENIENTLY left out a particular moment.

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Kuro has spoken. Waifu’s recommendation > some random NPC’s opinion and a note that could have been written by any potential lunatic.

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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Is the EGS version any different than the one you can download from the official website? The reason I'm asking is... well, it looks like there's a way to sub and everything there, but will all this carry over to the version from the official website? Meaning, can I use the EGS version for subs and stuff only and play the version from the official website (same account, user ID, server etc.)? I know I'm complicating things for no reason, but I just don't want to deal with EGS more than I have to.
 
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Pejo

Gold Member
Is the EGS version any different than the one you can download from the official website? The reason I'm asking is... well, it looks like there's a way to sub and everything there, but will all this carry over to the version from the official website? Meaning, can I use the EGS version for subs and stuff only and play the version from the official website (same account, user ID, server etc.)? I know I'm complicating things for no reason, but I just don't want to deal with EGS more than I have to.
I won't touch EGS but the standalone PC version retains all currency purchased on mobile and vise versa. I do my sub/BP purchases on Google Play because I can use coupons and redeem points for free BP and stuff.
 
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Doom85

Member
OMG, I didn’t think this would happen by interacting with this during this moment in the story, but it made this sequence of events so funny in my head.

Rinascita II - Act 1:

(dancing Echo goes nuts, hops in Rover’s face to give her a mysterious vision, and then runs off)
Zani: Are you all right? Quick, we should pursue it!
Rover: Right! Quick, into that mobile bathtub!
Zani: I beg your pardon?
(they hop into the Tubpup, which proceeds to move forward……very slowly)
Zani: …..Rover, may I be so bold as to suggest continuing the pursuit on foot?
Rover: Give it a second, I’m sure it will pick up speed any second now!
Abby: A big meal, followed by a nice bath, this city is the best!
Zani: Shenanigans like this are what continue to deny me my coveted vacation time! :messenger_crying:
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
I won't touch EGS but the standalone PC version retains all currency purchased on mobile and vise versa. I do my sub/BP purchases on Google Play because I can use coupons and redeem points for free BP and stuff.
I'm from Russia, paying for anything through GP is not an option (SWIFT is not workin' as well as Russian credit cards) while fuckin' Putin continues to kill people in Ukraine, destroy their cities and infrastructure. I have to use other means.

I guess to play these gacha games you have to use EGS account and link it to the games account somehow, which is totally not an option for me. I just don't get why Kuro can't do what MHY did with ZZZ and their other games.
 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Is the EGS version any different than the one you can download from the official website? The reason I'm asking is... well, it looks like there's a way to sub and everything there, but will all this carry over to the version from the official website? Meaning, can I use the EGS version for subs and stuff only and play the version from the official website (same account, user ID, server etc.)? I know I'm complicating things for no reason, but I just don't want to deal with EGS more than I have to.
I have the EGS version installed on my PC and it's basically just a wrapper for their PC client (there's 2 executables in the install folder, one for the EGS version and one for the default version). Anyway, I've used the EGS version to top up back in December because of their cashback stuff. The prices are a bit more expensive than via Kuro Games directly.

And yes, the progress carries over across all PC clients, mobile and PS5 (I've the game installed on all these devices).

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Just hit union 45 and got my free 5*
Picked the sword. Good shit.

Also Carlotta carried me through the hazard zone echo tower single handedly lol, had to do it for the guidebook and was curious if she could, uh she did, easily.

Danjin and Baizhi more or less functional now too.

Who’s in the next banner? Also will there be a story update next banner?
 
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Pejo

Gold Member
Just hit union 45 and got my free 5*
Picked the sword. Good shit.

Also Carlotta carried me through the hazard zone echo tower single handedly lol, had to do it for the guidebook and was curious if she could, uh she did, easily.

Danjin and Baizhi more or less functional now too.

Who’s in the next banner? Also will there be a story update next banner?
Roccia is next, then Brant/Phoebe. No idea about story update but we are getting fishing which means we are officially an RPG finally.
 
Just hit union 45 and got my free 5*
Picked the sword. Good shit.

Also Carlotta carried me through the hazard zone echo tower single handedly lol, had to do it for the guidebook and was curious if she could, uh she did, easily.

Danjin and Baizhi more or less functional now too.

Who’s in the next banner? Also will there be a story update next banner?

2.1 will have some extra areas on the map

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Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Lmao, the devs are adding "wet effects" to characters. Genshin just does this superficially with little water bubbles animating around the characters, but WuWa is like "hold my beer" and adding clothing transparency/water drippage on the models themselves.

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And this type of attention to detail is why Kuro will be cemented as the GOAT of gacha devs!

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Pejo

Gold Member
And this type of attention to detail is why Kuro will be cemented as the GOAT of gacha devs!

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Honestly it'd be even better if it had a gameplay effect. Like made you slightly more resistant to fusion and take slightly more damage from Electro. Not going full on Genshin reactions type stuff, but just environmental stuff.

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Seems like a nice beginner guide to quickswap gameplay for the newer players in the thread:




Plus a reddit post describing it in text if you learn better that way:
 
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Mayar

Member
Honestly it'd be even better if it had a gameplay effect. Like made you slightly more resistant to fusion and take slightly more damage from Electro. Not going full on Genshin reactions type stuff, but just environmental stuff.

*edit*

Seems like a nice beginner guide to quickswap gameplay for the newer players in the thread:




Plus a reddit post describing it in text if you learn better that way:

Good video, I'll add a couple of points that I don't quite agree with and what he forgot to mention.
This technique was much stronger at the beginning of the game and was used constantly, but then it was nerfed, I don't remember in which patch, unfortunately it was a long time ago. The difference is that before, the on-field buff effect was preserved when doing a quick swap, and to be honest, this made this mechanic very broken. Then a patch came and the skills got a note - "or until they are switched out." That is, now when doing a quick swap, you lose the character buff, which makes using this technique a little more difficult and delicate. That's why you need to understand exactly when and how to do it, and that's why rotations appeared in the game. Otherwise, you just endlessly switch between characters very quickly and lose all their buffs.

He also recommends Changli for training, I wouldn't. This is because all of her DPS is hidden by Resonance Skill which has a 12 second cooldown, and the idea behind her rotation is that you need to rotate perfectly to hit the cooldown of these 12 seconds, believe me this additional complexity is not what you need at the stage of mastering this technique (She is considered one of the most difficult characters in the game for a reason). All other characters are listed relatively normally, in my opinion he lowered Yinlin too low, it’s not that hard for her to learn, she doesn’t have any additional mechanics that would interfere with doing this.
 

Mayar

Member


Yo, we're Elden Ringing now.

I was always wondering how many attempts it took to record such videos. Because he had to bring him to low HP and such a state that Echo would be able to deal him the necessary damage with one blow and still wait for this very animation of the boss's attack. :messenger_grinning:
 

Mayar

Member
Can Carlotta and Roccia be in the same team with a healer?
If you play casually, it doesn't matter how you mix teams. In the open world, any team will work if they have at least the slightest logic.

If we are talking about Endgame or Maximizing DPS, then it's a different story. Of course, they will work, since Roccia is originally planned as a character of the 2nd position for rotation. But Carlotta will not be able to get a full buff from her, since Roccia increases the damage of Havoc and basic attacks. And if the basic attack buff on Carlotta will play some role and increase her damage in rotation where basic attacks are used, then the Havoc buff for Carlotta is completely useless since her element is ice. In rotation, you lose half of the buff from Roccia. If you are interested in who is currently the best 2 for Carlotta, it is Zhezhi, she has a 20% buff to ice damage.

But as I already said, if you are not engaged in the endgame or do not try to roughly maximize groups, understand the mechanics, but just playing for fun and run around the world. You can just play with the one you like and everything will be fine.
 
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Spyxos

Gold Member
If you play casually, it doesn't matter how you mix teams. In the open world, any team will work if they have at least the slightest logic.

If we are talking about Endgame or Maximizing DPS, then it's a different story. Of course, they will work, since Roccia is originally planned as a character of the 2nd position for rotation. But Carlotta will not be able to get a full buff from her, since Roccia increases the damage of Havoc and basic attacks. And if the basic attack buff on Carlotta will play some role and increase her damage in rotation where basic attacks are used, then the Havoc buff for Carlotta is completely useless since her element is ice. In rotation, you lose half of the buff from Roccia. If you are interested in who is currently the best 2 for Carlotta, it is Zhezhi, she has a 20% buff to ice damage.

But as I already said, if you are not engaged in the endgame or do not try to roughly maximize groups, understand the mechanics, but just playing for fun and run around the world. You can just play with the one you like and everything will be fine.
Yeah, i will be only playing casually.
 

Mayar

Member
Yeah, i will be only playing casually.
Then if you like the character pull, wait for the trial and try the character in it, to be sure that you will like her.
If you are waiting for someone special or saving up and you need a good free alternative at this time - Sanhua. The same buff on Basic Attack DMG. 4 Stars character, I think almost everyone have her.
 
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