The Elite
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An open challenge... on gaf?!
I have always wanted to try KoC2.
I like WWE 2k14 but I think Day of Reckoning 2 has given me the best matches.
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An open challenge... on gaf?!
I have always wanted to try KoC2.
I like WWE 2k14 but I think Day of Reckoning 2 has given me the best matches.
He didn't get anything? I know he didn't get a special edition but I thought he got a cover art or something.
Macho Man Edition can be 2K17
No you tell me why you claim they are so similar in the first place. Then I'll tell you why you are lying to yourself.
theclosetfan
Member
Every wrestling game geek needs to play KoC2 if they can.
Union Carbine
Member
One thing I miss from the RAW for Xbox series was that the entrance was part of the match-- seamless from ramp to ring-- and you could even interrupt it to start the match early.
it's probably ring escape
iirc you could roll in the direction you point your left stick when you get up in 2k14
I think a bunch of us need to get Dolphin netplay going for some DoR2 at this rate.
It's most likely just ring escape.
You can roll away as you mentioned but you can only do that so much because it is based on your damage taken. Like I told 3kuSaS before, Yukes had the possum technique of staying down so the person can't grab you immediately but they removed it - not sure why. You can do that plus shield yourself in the AKI games, which apparently is just nostalgia!
I've played probably more 2K14 than anyone on this board, with the exception of Striker, and what he says is the truth. When you get hit with a move, whether it's a finisher or not, and get pinned, you'll still be slow to get up after kicking out of that pin, allowing the person to grab you again for another move. Whether it's "realistic" or not shouldn't even come into consideration when I can suplex a guy through a flaming table and he literally hops up within three or four seconds of it. If a player kicks out of a finisher or whatever, he should not be grappled so easily as he's getting up.
Apparently you haven't because you compared it to the Yukes games.
God, you should have seen me playing Raw for the first time. I can create my entrance?! This is awesome. NOW MY MUSIC?! Holy balls, this is amazing. then during my entrance, I see the attack prompt and my brother hits it. "FUCK YES SO FUCKING GOOD".
...Then the actual match started. Dear god.
The Elite
BOSS
I hear DoR2 works now.
I hooked up the Game Cube version the other day and it still holds up well.
I finally got around to playing VPW2 the other day. Loving it.
I'm worried that since neither XB1 or PS4 have MP3 support currently, custom entrance themes are gone.
FallingEdge
Member
Does it? I hope that is the case.
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
need to see Ziggler to know how far they are willing to go with it's animation.
Yeah, been playing it on my Wii U with the Pro Contorller and it plays great still. Really hope that the Wii U Gamecube app supports that USB adaptor when it comes out with Smash bros.
theclosetfan
Member
As I told you, KoC 2 is my favorite wrestling game.
Some Yuke's games are very bad. Others aren't.
I'm getting weird smackdown vs raw 2008 vibes from this game, regardless mmmmmm that selling and crowd reaction.
Please give me more.
SUPER DESTROYMAN
Member
need to see Ziggler to know how far they are willing to go with it's animation.
This one is hurting my brain
Union Carbine
Member
Yeah, pretty much. Still, we're two generations removed from that and nobody else figured out how to do it?
It amazes me how many great features they've added in over the years that subsequently disappear without a trace. I forget which version of SvR it was in which you could slam/suplex/etc guys out of the ring and even maneuver them in the hold towards the ropes to either send them over or use the ropes in a modified version of the move (slingshot suplexes, etc.). What the heck happened to that?
Ultimate Control Grapple?
MagnetoWned
Member
nvm already posted
Union Carbine
Member
Was that what it was called? I can't remember.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
The animation is laughably bad, even the visuals don't make up for it.
This needs allot of work.
This needs allot of work.
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TheDrowningMan
Member
Yeah, problem is people used it to grief. Grab a referee in a chokehold for a chokeslam and nothing could be done. Could do that to other players too. There were other exploits people did with them. They were real glitchy and really didn't add that much more to the system.
The Elite
BOSS
Getting the signed art card would cause logistical problems.
Replace them with Slim Jims.
Union Carbine
Member
Surely, they could have improved upon the mechanic, fixed the loopholes, rather than abandon it?
Barring that, at least let moves interact with the ring realistically so that if I do set someone up to suplex them to the outside, they don't magically warp to stay in the ring but, you know, fall outside. Same with hitting moves on top of objects like chairs.
Mr. Luchador
Member
... hype dying. Same old robotic slow-mo movements and animations.
Let me ask you a question. Did you also hate that sample of Rey Mysterio Jr. like I did?
Cena doesn't have 95 in stats in 2k14. If you create a wrestler using his head and check the box to make it an alternate attire for Cena instead of a separate character, that character will show 100 as his stats instead. That's rounded down. They may have patched this so you can't see it anymore.
Also, he and The Rock are the only characters to have the AI where they will always do their finishing move after a signature move so they don't pin anyone after the Five Knuckle Shuffle or a spinebuster because that would look bad.
edit: :lol at Yuke's still using Randy Orton's 2011 mini-tron. It's the Harry Potter-style text where it says "Apex Predator" under the Titantron. He hasn't used that for a long time.
Scottish Sin
Member
Yeah, it looks good graphically but after watching that video it's looking like more of the same gameplay wise. Bummer.
You can see one of those short animations Yuke's has been using since 2001 at 1:35 in the Nexplay off-screen footage. It looks great graphically, but things like attacks always missing when the guy you're attacking is entering or exiting the ring seem like they're still in there.
RandyBobandy
Banned
That's a WWE game all right.
Models look great, but the collision detection and animation is complete ass
I wouldn't blame Yukes for the edit there, I bet it's a hold up with WWE providing them.
I was hoping for Depressed Sting Fan who only becomes active when Sting is in the ring.
gunstarhero
Member
need to see Ziggler to know how far they are willing to go with it's animation.
No amount of technology can capture an accurately animated Ziggler.
theclosetfan
Member
I'm not sure what you are talking about. One of the unlockable pre-made sample guys for the Edit mode? Is this supposed to be a test? I don't recall Rey being in the game at all.
You clearly don't want to discuss wrestling game mechanics with me, you just want to shame me for having an unpopular opinion.
I love KoC 2. It's an amazing game with some flaws. I think WWE 2K14 is similar in that regard.
In fact, both Orton's Titantron video and his mini-tron video are the ones he used at TLC 2011. Will Cena still use "10 years of respect" merch from 2012? Will 2012 Cena fans be in the crowd?
How much are we talking here? Based on the statistics screen in 2k14 I'm pretty sure I've played 1500+ matches in it by now.
The Elite
BOSS
There are apparently 5 times more animations in this game.
I don't see them, but apparently they are there.
Thats true after your pinned you do get up slow. its more realistic though. it makes less sense to be able to dive roll after taking a F5. Ill take realism over "well no mercy did this so every other game should". and thats not true about the flamin tables. big moves like that finishers on the outside will keep someone down for like 10 seconds and thats a lot for a wrestling game.