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StanleyPalmtree
Banned
Well thats a hectic night.
The key feeling i have right now is towards Scrafty being scum.
So yesterday she got pretty damn close to being lynched, and a part of the suspicion on her was due to her activity being almost purely reactionary, and doing very little in the way of scum hunting, and now she comes in today making a huge show of how she is doing the total opposite , building a mountain out of a molehill in her case against corn ( a case not without merit, but i personally think its blowing things way out of proportion).
it reads to me as a nervous scum taking the night to review what they were doing wrong, and overcompensating in their attempt to undo the damage.
VOTE: ScraftyDevil
The key feeling i have right now is towards Scrafty being scum.
So yesterday she got pretty damn close to being lynched, and a part of the suspicion on her was due to her activity being almost purely reactionary, and doing very little in the way of scum hunting, and now she comes in today making a huge show of how she is doing the total opposite , building a mountain out of a molehill in her case against corn ( a case not without merit, but i personally think its blowing things way out of proportion).
it reads to me as a nervous scum taking the night to review what they were doing wrong, and overcompensating in their attempt to undo the damage.
VOTE: ScraftyDevil
This vanilla/steal ability, if it was neutral aligned, would it count on a role that has used their power?
I'm thinking choosing squidy at this point seemed problematic, though i guess it's something we won't see until flip.
I think squidy being the target has me thinking it's potentially a scum power rather than a neutral. Scum wanted to neutralise the cop, as he could be lying about the single shot.
I'm thinking choosing squidy at this point seemed problematic, though i guess it's something we won't see until flip.
I think squidy being the target has me thinking it's potentially a scum power rather than a neutral. Scum wanted to neutralise the cop, as he could be lying about the single shot.
I'm not feeling particularly good about Corn myself, though I'm weary of following the opinions of two dead Town on day 1.
The one major thing against him was his absolute certainty that squidy was lying, coupled with him wanting to lead a lynch on him for this lie which didn't make sense for scum to make.
OK the first two are valid theories. Why would Kalor hide behind one of the claimed PR, since one was pretty suspicious (retro) and the other was a claimed vigi, who was most likely getting rekt last night? I don't see Kalor choosing these two targets,
Splinter is interesting. It could be possible, and it passed me by but he's probably going to be the kill that'll be the hardest to discern.
Blargonaut
Banned
k I'm back
How do you feel about TerraByte, the other 'big suspect'? Also, I'm curious as to who are your top scum at the moment.
Terra's not good, he's just sort of there and I don't find his contributions meaningful. He doesn't feel like scum to me, though.
The problem we have is with the high amount of kills, we don't have much of a margin for error. Though N2 should at least be a little quieter
Top scum right now is bronx-man, Cornbro.
I'm quite unsure of Scrafty, Palmer, Kawl and Salva.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
It's possible that he believed THE ROCK would provide him with ROCK-SOLID protection, or just that he thought he'd have a better shot at safety with him rather than with a complete unknown. If LA DIABLA were in his position, she would try to avoid hiding with unclaimed superstars because the risk of running afoul of a HEEL would be A DEFINITE RISK.
For someone so concerned over scum possibly controlling the flow of conversation on day 1, nuked you sure seem to have no problem dictating the topic now.
And again, I'm glad Squidy decided to use his one shot to clear Blargonaut and not someone who was in the thick of suspicion. At least we have ample time to slowly move through our suspicions one mislynch at a time....
And scum mates please speak up soon and redirect conversation away from me like you did day 1....
Oh damn it seems like people are content to let votes and general opinion slowly form and fester. Gee whiz that sure is convenient.
As far as the vote at the end of yesterday, the goal was to try to shift towards a two dog race instead of the almost 4 way tie we had at the time. That of course didn't prevent the end of the day from getting as crazy as I should really expect given Gafia. I didn't have much justification for Terra cause I didn't really feel strongly about him one way or another. Rarely do on day 1.
Squidy could you be a doll and make clear any of the questions you've put forth that I've been "avoiding"?
And again, I'm glad Squidy decided to use his one shot to clear Blargonaut and not someone who was in the thick of suspicion. At least we have ample time to slowly move through our suspicions one mislynch at a time....
And scum mates please speak up soon and redirect conversation away from me like you did day 1....
Oh damn it seems like people are content to let votes and general opinion slowly form and fester. Gee whiz that sure is convenient.
As far as the vote at the end of yesterday, the goal was to try to shift towards a two dog race instead of the almost 4 way tie we had at the time. That of course didn't prevent the end of the day from getting as crazy as I should really expect given Gafia. I didn't have much justification for Terra cause I didn't really feel strongly about him one way or another. Rarely do on day 1.
Squidy could you be a doll and make clear any of the questions you've put forth that I've been "avoiding"?
Blargonaut
Banned
brb
Blargonaut
Banned
I meant me, not you
Blargonaut
Banned
I'm back btw
Blargonaut
Banned
squidy claims 1-shot
uses 1-shot
claims attempted theft of his used 1-shot
uses 1-shot
claims attempted theft of his used 1-shot
Blargonaut
Banned
TY for turning me into a Horcrux, squidy
Blargonaut
Banned
right, SalvaPot?
Blargonaut
Banned
This is what happens when you use mechanical web shooters
biological is best
biological is best
Blargonaut
Banned
More like Weird
Blargonaut
Banned
My apologies
pls
continue
pls
continue
Blargonaut
Banned
mea culpa
Blargonaut
Banned
Not in front of the others, Kawl
Of course. What else would I do? Continue to let scum dictate the topic of discussion? Speaking up is the obvious thing to do as Town, and if you are Town, you would have stopped to think about this and realized why I'm trying to be more assertive/active. So either you really doesn't think I'm town (where was this suspicion before?) or you're just trying to cast a little shade on me now because OMGUS.
You seem to be repeating the pattern of behavior you had earlier with Squidy by being reactively defensive and not actually responding to why I suspect you - the fact that you don't really take any controversial stances and that you're fluffy. Despite your anger when being called out, you play very safely in your opinions, and you also haven't really been scum hunting.
Blargonaut
Banned
Blargonaut
Banned
awww I shouldn't have said that
come here Kawl
Best friends hug
c'mon
come here Kawl
Best friends hug
c'mon
Blargonaut
Banned
UNVOTE
c'mon
c'mon
You're right I should have manufactured more controversial stances to make sure I got the appropriate amount of flak instead of just posting my actual thoughts. I guess my brain has just been working too safely this game. Damn.
And yes the first point is the one I was leaning towards, and what an odd statement, the suspicion is coming from your recent posts and I just stated it. Suspicion doesn't have to have been festering all along from the word go to be valid.
And yes I am being fluffy and lazy in scum hunting. I find day 1 mostly dreary and incredibly hit or miss for scum hunting (as can be seen by our great record of suspects) and have been too busy to do actual analysis beyond just keeping up with the thread for this far into day 2. Sorry for keeping some posts light hearted. Always forget Gafia is no fun allowed unless your name is Blarg.
Blargonaut
Banned
This is kinda the issue with him getting cleared*. He can go fully mental and get away with it now.
*I know he MIGHT be a Neutral.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
I see you've stopped playing Street Fighter Kawl 
I've just got up, I'm gonna read back through day 1 and see if I can see anything interesting to go on.
Though nuked, I am quite interested that you've said that you think scum have been controlling the conversation but have said nothing about cabot who's been front and centre, which surely would be the best place to control the conversation from?
Anyway yeah, going to have a re-read of the thread. Brb.
I've just got up, I'm gonna read back through day 1 and see if I can see anything interesting to go on.
Though nuked, I am quite interested that you've said that you think scum have been controlling the conversation but have said nothing about cabot who's been front and centre, which surely would be the best place to control the conversation from?
Anyway yeah, going to have a re-read of the thread. Brb.
Scrafty why wouldn't Kalor target you? Two reasons why I could see it
1) He thought like some of us, targeting you if you commuted would make him immune, obviously not true, but not impossible that he thought this.
2) He knew the way a commuter and hider would work, and therefore would choose you to 'stay home' at night. He had some people suspicious of him, it would've been a decent way of keeping alive.
nin, can you confirm that Kalor had to send a hide target, or was it optional?
1) He thought like some of us, targeting you if you commuted would make him immune, obviously not true, but not impossible that he thought this.
2) He knew the way a commuter and hider would work, and therefore would choose you to 'stay home' at night. He had some people suspicious of him, it would've been a decent way of keeping alive.
nin, can you confirm that Kalor had to send a hide target, or was it optional?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Because LA DIABLA's DANCE skills make her UNTOUCHABLE as per the normal commuter rules, so he likely correctly figured that his ability would simply fail if he used it on the UNTARGETABLE form of LA DIABLA. It's as simple as that, really.
All this talk of who's controlling the conversation, yet no one wants to point fingers at the guy doing it the most, cabot.
Why me? Why Cornbro? I'm curious.
Why me? Why Cornbro? I'm curious.
Bowlie was posting mostly fluff, and going for Blarg in early D1 which is the easiest person to go for in D1, since you rarely get anything useful out of him.
Your gif responses and not particularly helpful answers this day I have not liked. Kinda doesn't feel you're doing much unless your name is involved in someone's post.
Your gif responses and not particularly helpful answers this day I have not liked. Kinda doesn't feel you're doing much unless your name is involved in someone's post.
To be fair, I really thought Squidyj was lying as well. I was just willing to go along with it until D2 to see what his endgame was.
If he hadn't used it D1, and had nothing to show for it today, he'd be on the chopping block for sure.
Them continuing to go after him AFTER he used his ability is really weird though.
For the vanilla-izer I feel like Neutral is the more likely alignment. Targeting Squidy, who'd purportedly already used his role to the full extent, suggests that someone needs to vanilla people, but didn't want to hurt town a ton.
It is certainly not town since the ability is far more likely to hurt town unless the roles in this game are pretty weird. I guess it could be a CPR Doctor variant? Save someone if they get killed, but strip their role if they don't?
It seems too powerful to be scum, and I feel like they would've targeted someone else.
Kalor's PM says "may". I do assume that he did target someone since it clears anyone he is able to hide behind. I expect he hit scum.
If I had been Kalor another person I would've considered hiding behind was Burbeting, since I feel like Mafia typically don't kill Millers since Town often ends up doing it for them, so that'd be a pretty safe spot.
It is certainly not town since the ability is far more likely to hurt town unless the roles in this game are pretty weird. I guess it could be a CPR Doctor variant? Save someone if they get killed, but strip their role if they don't?
It seems too powerful to be scum, and I feel like they would've targeted someone else.
Kalor's PM says "may". I do assume that he did target someone since it clears anyone he is able to hide behind. I expect he hit scum.
If I had been Kalor another person I would've considered hiding behind was Burbeting, since I feel like Mafia typically don't kill Millers since Town often ends up doing it for them, so that'd be a pretty safe spot.
Let's see I'll just consult my big list o scum here aaaaaand, oh looks like Palmer, Matt Attack, Ultron, and Scrafty make up our baddies this time around.
And no not really. Day 1 all suspects look pretty much equal before the dust is settled. I literally voted one person and changed right after seeing that I hadn't achieved the goal of creating a larger disparity of votes. I wasn't married to my vote in any way really.
That's my point, most people assumed he was lying but it was some sort of gambit from a non-scum play, which makes sense considering the claim.
I myself wasnt 100% sure of a squidy lie, I detailed my reasons before in this post:
Cornbro was the only one that thought from the off that squidy was completely lying and was probably scum.
Not a logical read progression. Kawl doesn't even mention magnum on day 1 as far as I could see re reading.
Iirc my vote was already on Scrafty meaning leaving it there wasn't helping create front runners.
Or it may have been on retro to get the Squid check. I'm not entirely sure, it was late and I had had a few.
The full sentence of "Each night you may send the command" kind of puts me off, it seems I'm not gonna get an answer to my question frustratingly.
I'd like to know because if he had to do it, I could see Kalor believing Scrafty's claim (nothing in D1 suggests he didn't) and hiding with her. It would be pretty darn likely she'd activate last night, so he would essentially 'stay home'.
Your point about Bear also makes sense though, and his D1 performance after the initial claim did pick up and appear more Town. It's another valid choice.
I don't understand the logic. Why would he want to stay home, exactly? Nobody knew he was a hider at that point.
He knows he isn't scum and thinks he's as likely to not get targeted as any one else. So safer bet for him is to stay home if he can.