Yeah, 4-7 at Summerslam, what a superb record, especially with FIVE of those losses being in the last five years.
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Yeah, 4-7 at Summerslam, what a superb record, especially with FIVE of those losses being in the last five years.
4 hours with a 2 hour preshow.
OrochiJR
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Dayum, together with Takeover that's a lot of wrestling. Time to clear my schedule.
Hmm... are you trying to tell me something?
BewareTheBatsie
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Eva Marie better pick up the win on Sunday in the tag-match by doing absolutely nothing for the whole match by staying at the apron then tagging herself in to get the pin after all the damage is done.
Not really excited for this; the card can't support this 6 hour overkill. I'm not watching all of Raw and Smackdown these days, so I have some catching up to do but the repeating promo packages in the pre- and main show still make me sceptical. It's hard to stay awake during those at 4-5am.
This is a great idea!
Master_Funk
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I never found finn Balor interesting during NXT and I doubt I'll change my mind here, since they're making him even more one dimensional then he was in NXT. That fact that my boy Sami zayn isn't even on the damn card after having the best matches in wwe all year has tempered my interest in summer slam something fierce.
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Snowman Prophet of Doom
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To be fair to Dean, he usually has one of the better-looking suicide dives and actually makes contact. Though why everybody has to do a suicide dive now is beyond me.
ElectricBlanketFire
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No way. His dives almost always look like garbage. He just holds hands with the guy and falls down.
I say this as a Dean fan.
Rockandrollclown
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He seems to understand how to pace a match? I don't know if its just because he's often been put against good talent, but there have been quite a few good matches involving Dean Ambrose. His gimmick is awful. His moveset is worse, but in spite of all of that he's been in quite a few good matches. Not Sami Zayn level matches, but good matches nonetheless.
PHOENIXZERO
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I remember before the Shield broke up and before that from his old Jon Moxley promos how I figured Dean would the end result of Pillman, Austin and Piper could have a baby but then post-Shield from booking and his clearly not giving a shit has been disappointing.
Remember when Seth was gonna be the "mid-card guy" because of the questioning of his promo ability? Seth, even though he took the Triple H promos 101 class, has surpassed Deano overall, I mean I still wouldn't put him above Ambrose in the promo sense but in the ring he's a miles ahead even if he does shit he probably shouldn't be doing as a heel in the ring.
Just like last year, I agree with this.
Remember when Seth was gonna be the "mid-card guy" because of the questioning of his promo ability? Seth, even though he took the Triple H promos 101 class, has surpassed Deano overall, I mean I still wouldn't put him above Ambrose in the promo sense but in the ring he's a miles ahead even if he does shit he probably shouldn't be doing as a heel in the ring.
Just like last year, I agree with this.
The 18-34 male demographic believes he's an uber-talented throwback performer to the Attitude Era... when he's more like an Attitude Era Elvis impersonator.
Gassed.
BewareTheBatsie
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I like Dean, and he has the safest suicide dive overall in my opinion but that's not exactly a good thing since the reason it's so safe is also why it's awful. He just grazes the opponent and they have to sell it like it hurts badly.
when you have the company trying to push roman reigns as the next john cena, ambrose is like ric flair in comparison
it's as simple as that
Rockandrollclown
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That helps. Ambrose in spite of his shortcomings happened more or less organically. He got over. The company didn't shove Ambrose down your throat. Hell, 4 months ago it would be crazy talk to think he'd be champ now.
Master_Funk
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Dean since going to sd has been awesome on the mic. He finally has that champ swagger and it working really well.
Nocturnowl
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Yes, this is what the product deserves.
Not trying to derail or anything, but if we compare him with Reigns. Reigns at least has the powerhouse mentality when he's not facing someone like Strowman or Lesnar. Dean is basically your generic Indy wrestler with less athleticism and risk moves. I left wrestling for about 7 years. Came back when Seth won the belt. Was familiar with the name AJ Styles, saw his matches in WWE with Cena and Reigns and automatically was like "wow, ok this guy is good". With Dean I guess he has pretty good pacing, but nothing has ever stood out to me in terms of wrestling. I mean I don't even think he has good Mic skills, but he's so good at constantly talking, that I think people mistake it for good mic skills.
Generic indie wrestlers are much better wrestlers, but worse talkers, than Dean Ambrose.
Dean Ambrose is a generic mid-2000s indie wrestling fan who went to wrasslin school.
HazySaiyan
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The Great Khali
Discotheque
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i haven't tuned into smackdown yet since the draft (or even before it honestly). so i do miss AJ Styles and Miz/Maryse.
But man, it's a blessing to not see Dean on RAW anymore. Worst champ since sheamus.
But man, it's a blessing to not see Dean on RAW anymore. Worst champ since sheamus.
Jimmy King
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This doesn't make any sense because
A) RAW is garbage and SmackDown Live is miles better.
2) Despite Dean's in-ring performance, I cannot recall a better WWE championship program in some time. He's actually acting and being treated like a champion on the show.
Discotheque
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I don't disagree with A. Although I've had a lot of fun with the enzo/jericho back and forths on the mic and even reigns/rusev.
but how am I supposed to know about 2? I aint even seen it lol. maybe i should give it a shot tho. what's the best smackdown episode since the draft to show this.
Glory Fades
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Why, she can work. And her psychology is some of the best I have seen in years. HHH must be helping her.
Discotheque
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aiight ill check those clips out, thanks.
this means absolutely nothing in 2016
especially when he's being rammed down our throats
and has been delivering some of the most cringeworthy promos of all time
dean's lows don't come anywhere close to reigns, and reigns highs aren't that high, despite what the company wants you to believe
so again, compared to how roman has been portrayed, dean comes off as a favorite to fans and is infinitely more talented than roman in every aspect of pro wrestling
TetraxShards
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"Don't blame me, I voted for Demon Kodos."
Discotheque
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except for the wrestling part you mean. reigns has had far better performances for this company as of late.
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Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
LOL no. Reigns was worse. Khali was worse.
Ambrose is over because he's different. He isn't some roided up monster. I think he appeals to people because he's more "real" than these other clowns.
Speaking of roided up clowns, I still can't believe some people enjoy watching Lesnar wrestle. The guy is freaking terrible.
This is the sort of 90s counterculture angst that produced the "Sprite. Obey Your Thirst." ad campaign.
Which is fitting for a defense of Dean Ambrose.
Summerslam will be better than Takeover this year without a doubt. You have strong matches there like Joe/Nakamura and Revival/Gargano and Ciampa but you also have Andrade/Roode and Jose/Aries (which will no doubt be a fun match but I don't think it'll be anything extraordinary).
Meanwhile, in Summerslam, you have The Club/New Day, AJ/Cena, Rollins/Balor, Sasha/Charlotte, Ziggler/Ambrose, Lesnar/Orton, Rusev/Reigns, Enzo and Cass/JeriKO.... I mean really, the potentially weak matches of the show are Crews/Miz, Cesaro/Sheamus, and the SD women's tag match. Having 8 out of the 11 matches be potentially incredible is, well, just that, incredible. I don't see how NXT can top THAT card.
Meanwhile, in Summerslam, you have The Club/New Day, AJ/Cena, Rollins/Balor, Sasha/Charlotte, Ziggler/Ambrose, Lesnar/Orton, Rusev/Reigns, Enzo and Cass/JeriKO.... I mean really, the potentially weak matches of the show are Crews/Miz, Cesaro/Sheamus, and the SD women's tag match. Having 8 out of the 11 matches be potentially incredible is, well, just that, incredible. I don't see how NXT can top THAT card.
reigns is shit in ring and gets carried by his god tier opponents
ambrose isn't much better but i've never been excited to see reigns in ring. his moveset is ass.
BewareTheBatsie
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I'm someone who doesn't really care for Eva's in-ring talent rather than declare she's the worst thing ever but the angle with her not wrestling has been great and highly entertaining so the idea of her doing nothing in a match and then picking up the win which she then brags about on the next Smackdown sounds better to me than the story-line being killed this Sunday with her wrestling and then losing the match.
Stone Cold and The Rock said themselves that they only used five moves. Reigns' moveset is fine. He is a good worker surrounded by mostly other good workers, many better workers.
Ninja Scooter
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Neither are great but Reigns>Ambrose. Ambrose wrestles like a drunken anemic.
This is exactly it. He's Diet Attitude Era, but he wears jeans and a wife beater and acts crazy and unpredictable so people associate him with the likes of Austin and Pillman. He's like the ABC Family version of Brian Pillman, right down to the hackneyed "facial twitches" because, you know, that's what crazy people do and he's soooo unstable!!!
Jimmy King
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I love when wrestlers work in character.
Chie Satonaka
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I actually feel like Deano has gotten a lot better since they put the belt on him...
Maybe it's thematic? He's got this (sigh) wacky, unfocused, grungy kind of style because that's just want they want from him? I haven't seen any of his indy work, was he better then?
Whatever. I'm willing to tolerate it, because I like Dean. Hopefully he beats the hell out of Ziggles this weekend.
Maybe it's thematic? He's got this (sigh) wacky, unfocused, grungy kind of style because that's just want they want from him? I haven't seen any of his indy work, was he better then?
Whatever. I'm willing to tolerate it, because I like Dean. Hopefully he beats the hell out of Ziggles this weekend.
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