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Gary Whitta
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Wow at Astro. What an arrogant little piss-ant. He just doomed himself. I don't think I've ever seen anyone get booed like that on any of these talent shows.
Astro's top 11 performance video has 600k views, that's double everyone but Rachel Crowe who he was beating by 50k.
Astro's top 10 performance wasn't uploaded by XFactor for 12 hours after everyone else's. (can't see number of views as youtube is stuck on that non-refreshed 300ish views bug)
For top 12, his video is second in views. For top 17, his video has 1300k views, like 4x everyone but Melanie who he just doubled up.
I call foul.
Astro's top 10 performance wasn't uploaded by XFactor for 12 hours after everyone else's. (can't see number of views as youtube is stuck on that non-refreshed 300ish views bug)
For top 12, his video is second in views. For top 17, his video has 1300k views, like 4x everyone but Melanie who he just doubled up.
I call foul.
Gary Whitta
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I hope you're not suggesting that something behind the scenes on this show might not be entirely legitimate.
Gary Whitta said:
That's exactly what I'm suggesting. I think it was a case of protecting Lakoda Rayne / Paula and X Factor putting the most popular contestant to ensure the lowest votes would be knocked out, and Astro freaking out about it.
Especially watch his complete 180 before and after commercial break. He thought he was legitimately voted off and I think someone filled him in right before performance. That's my guess. Either way, something is off.
It's not a Drew Doughty ( EDIT - lol I mean Chris Daughty ) situation this early in the competition.
DeadFalling
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So if it was all a set up why were tears going down his cheeks at the end? I still think he's just a 14 year old brat trying to cover for his self since he realized he made a mistake.
TurtleSnatcher
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So reading through his tweets.. he is not blaming the people or fans.. But he is blaming the producers/production I think..
He is claiming that they don't want him around. I somehow doubt it but whatever..
He is claiming that they don't want him around. I somehow doubt it but whatever..
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There are a lot of things about the show that aren't legitimate (i.e. everything about the judges and contestants motivations, personalities, etc.), but I'm not going to buy into the fact that the voting is rigged; you can go to prison for that.Gary Whitta said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You're suggesting they risked prison time and completely destroying the genre entirely when there's very little to gain. People already turned on the show; I've said it before, there's nothing to gain by fixing a popularity contest because it's already a popularity contest.Tabris said:
Leona Lewis
Banned
Astro's re-tweeting that nonsense? He's indirectly accusing the producers of voter fraud. What an idiot
krypt0nian
Banned
Leona Lewis said:Astro's re-tweeting that nonsense? He's indirectly accusing the producers of voter fraud. What an idiot
He's fucked himself now. They'll bury him for suggesting that the competition is faked. And rightfully so.
He's so fucked in the head that it's all "politics, man. Swag."
I mean besides getting the studio audience that loves everything to boo him on camera. Haha
Leona Lewis
Banned
Girl, are you psychic? BREAKING NEWSKoodo said:
Digital Spy said:
More delicious tears, mah precious
Haha! Bye Astro!
And I'm going to have to agree that I don't think the voting is rigged. There are too many other tricks the producers can play if they want to make a contestant a favorite. Producers only care about money and ratings, if a contestant is popular and pulling in ratings and votes I'd think they last thing they'd want to do is artificially oust them from the show.
And I'm going to have to agree that I don't think the voting is rigged. There are too many other tricks the producers can play if they want to make a contestant a favorite. Producers only care about money and ratings, if a contestant is popular and pulling in ratings and votes I'd think they last thing they'd want to do is artificially oust them from the show.
Glad Astro was in the bottom 2 he has been way too cocky and the judges never giving him any criticism didn't help matters, even though Stacy has been bad the past couple of weeks I've liked her more than that cocky kid they should have sent him home just for that.
Maybe he'll be gone next week probably along with LA ROY no it's LEEROY(leroy) isn't it?
Maybe he'll be gone next week probably along with LA ROY no it's LEEROY(leroy) isn't it?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
This is just a conspiracy theory.Tabris said:
Leona Lewis
Banned
Stacy waited until she got on Twitter to have her meltdown...
"Stacy-It happened because you stopped loving me like the first time I sang for you... @SimonCowell .. thank u for everything. Bye."
I feel like I had a disadvantage by not being in his [Simon's] category. I believe that somebody in his category will win.
[Simon] beat up everyone in the competition last night except his category.
"My demise was set up last night when he [Simon] called me a cabaret singer.
She also digs at Astro a bit...
Im very confused by Astros behavior because I think in that moment you should be pleading for your life and not throwing it away.
I dont understand his behavior I mean, hes 14. We can call him a teenager and give him an excuse, but bad behavior is bad behavior. I think that he was ungracious in that moment and I think that in the real scheme of things, no matter what, you have to be grateful.
The thing to be disappointed about is when you see someone like Astro have such an obnoxious attitude about it is that he gets to stay. Thats kind of a hard pill to swallow because he doesnt seem grateful to be here.
"Stacy-It happened because you stopped loving me like the first time I sang for you... @SimonCowell .. thank u for everything. Bye."
I feel like I had a disadvantage by not being in his [Simon's] category. I believe that somebody in his category will win.
[Simon] beat up everyone in the competition last night except his category.
"My demise was set up last night when he [Simon] called me a cabaret singer.
She also digs at Astro a bit...
Im very confused by Astros behavior because I think in that moment you should be pleading for your life and not throwing it away.
I dont understand his behavior I mean, hes 14. We can call him a teenager and give him an excuse, but bad behavior is bad behavior. I think that he was ungracious in that moment and I think that in the real scheme of things, no matter what, you have to be grateful.
The thing to be disappointed about is when you see someone like Astro have such an obnoxious attitude about it is that he gets to stay. Thats kind of a hard pill to swallow because he doesnt seem grateful to be here.
krypt0nian
Banned
Delicious.
Crumpet Trumpet
Banned
Oh Stacy.
krypt0nian
Banned
Now he's Ali...
TurtleSnatcher
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lol man I love X Factor DRAMA
So goood So much better then Idol where they almost muzzle them it seems.
Also X Factor UK singers are so fricken good. They paired down to their final 5 or something and it really made their good singers stand out.
Can't wait until we get to that moment in the US because I think some of the acts here in the US will get really good after experiencing and learning new things with their coaches/professionals that work with them.
So goood So much better then Idol where they almost muzzle them it seems.
Also X Factor UK singers are so fricken good. They paired down to their final 5 or something and it really made their good singers stand out.
Can't wait until we get to that moment in the US because I think some of the acts here in the US will get really good after experiencing and learning new things with their coaches/professionals that work with them.
Just caught up with this, as much as I want a meteorite to come down and crush that little bastard astro, I was so happy to see Stacy get the boot, what an annoying demanding diva bitch. Also a giant LOL at astro claiming hes had to fight and get respect on the corner and all the bullshit, I wonder how hard he worked for that iPad he had in one of his home videos, fuck right off. Also Simon was spitting truth, thank you Simon once again for handing out the real talk.
Wow, if the producers didn't like Astro before, I'm sure him tweeting these comments is pleasing no one. I expect him gone in the double eliminations this week.
Is it possible the kid has a point though? After reading this thread I did a little research and Astro is #1 when it comes to contestants with the most twitter followers. He has more than 3x the followers Lakoda Rayne or LeRoy Bell do, for example. Followers =/= voters but you'd expect a correlation. My write up is HERE (with a credit/thanks to gaf!). I expect the kid is a brat and has an inflated ego, but calling out the producers isn't smart either way.
Anyway, I'm still expecting Drew to win as she's got such a great / unique voice. Unfortunately she's started to be boring and wants to be this folk singer. I'm glad the judges called her out on that as I'd like to see what else she can do.
Is it possible the kid has a point though? After reading this thread I did a little research and Astro is #1 when it comes to contestants with the most twitter followers. He has more than 3x the followers Lakoda Rayne or LeRoy Bell do, for example. Followers =/= voters but you'd expect a correlation. My write up is HERE (with a credit/thanks to gaf!). I expect the kid is a brat and has an inflated ego, but calling out the producers isn't smart either way.
Anyway, I'm still expecting Drew to win as she's got such a great / unique voice. Unfortunately she's started to be boring and wants to be this folk singer. I'm glad the judges called her out on that as I'd like to see what else she can do.
Leona Lewis
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Nice write-up/summary! I have to admit that the Twitter data is making this all pretty weird, plus Astro's comments seemed to indicate that he was pissed at the show/producers, not the voters. But the show is doing well for its first season and I can't imagine that they'd risk so much just to improve the already satisfactory ratings.
Next week's results show (especially with the double elimination) is going to be very interesting, for sure...
AngmarsKing701
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I think it's possible that 1) Astro has a ton of twitter followers because people like to watch a train wreck while it's happening and 2) he didn't get votes this week because IT WAS ROCK WEEK AND ALL HE CAN DO IS RAP.
I don't know if there are other themes coming up, but Astro is a one-trick pony, and his trick isn't as popular as someone like Scotty McCreery singing country every week.
Gary Whitta
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Astro comparing himself to Ali? Fucking hilarious.
He has to be gone next week with the double elimination, unless the scare last week energizes his fan base.
Maybe I'm just at a loss to understand why he's even considered among the more commercial acts. As others have pointed out he has talent but no authenticity at all, hip-hop is an art form built on hard life experience, WTF does this kid know? This kid should be busting out his version of Parents Just Don't Understand, not the shit he's trying to peddle.
So what's commercial about him? It's not like teen rap is a huge genre, Kriss Kross were big in the 80s and since then we've had only a very small handful of acts. Who's going to buy his records? I guess we should never underestimate the power of the pre-teen market.
He has to be gone next week with the double elimination, unless the scare last week energizes his fan base.
Maybe I'm just at a loss to understand why he's even considered among the more commercial acts. As others have pointed out he has talent but no authenticity at all, hip-hop is an art form built on hard life experience, WTF does this kid know? This kid should be busting out his version of Parents Just Don't Understand, not the shit he's trying to peddle.
So what's commercial about him? It's not like teen rap is a huge genre, Kriss Kross were big in the 80s and since then we've had only a very small handful of acts. Who's going to buy his records? I guess we should never underestimate the power of the pre-teen market.
DeadFalling
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Goddamnit I still wish she had stayed... :,(
Thanks. Yeah I hope next year they start the series with more contestants and more double eliminations from the start. Then later on they can switch it so singles. I just think people like the rugby hottie Catilyn (someone just pictured her above) would have had a much better chance with audience voting than the lame groups (I'd be shocked if that category remains as is next year).
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The kind of people that vote are probably not the kind of people that have twitter. You have to realize people like your mom are the people who vote on this show.
That's true too. A rapper on a singing show, it's easy for me to imagine not getting votes. I don't think there's anything shady going on behind the scenes, but I was surprised that at least according to twitter (which the show promotes heavily) he's actually the most popular one.
Discotheque
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I don't get all the people saying Astro is talented. The first few performances were alright but I just realize now all his shitty lyrics that are so amazingly written by himself are just the same crap lines week after week.
"yo I'm still on top, I aint never gonna flop (shout out to Eli), swag swag swag Astro hip hop's greatest, 5 million contract I'm gonna take it" blah blah blah
little kid rap is a gimmick too, nobody really wants to listen to that shit outside of the competition. forreal who would buy this minipop rap kids album? lame as hell. We've evolved to allow dorks and other races into hip hop but it's gonna be a long time before I listen to some 10 year old.
"yo I'm still on top, I aint never gonna flop (shout out to Eli), swag swag swag Astro hip hop's greatest, 5 million contract I'm gonna take it" blah blah blah
little kid rap is a gimmick too, nobody really wants to listen to that shit outside of the competition. forreal who would buy this minipop rap kids album? lame as hell. We've evolved to allow dorks and other races into hip hop but it's gonna be a long time before I listen to some 10 year old.
Discotheque
Banned
oh and god damn at rugby girl pics. "Just when I thought I was out...they puuuullll me back in"
Leona Lewis
Banned
Astro is done mincing words. He finally accuses the show of outright cheating
From an interview with the Hollywood Reporter:
Not to sound cocky, but I dont see how you can have the most followers on Twitter of all the contestants, most views on YouTube of all the contestants, and be voted in the bottom two. So, I knew something was fishy Thats why I spazzed out.
It was kind of aggravating on my part, because basically something that happened behind the scenes, he says. I felt like I was being treated unfairly, basically that was X Factors way of punishing me. I dont care to talk about what happened, but I doubt I was in the bottom two.
Muhammad Ali, everyone.
From an interview with the Hollywood Reporter:
Not to sound cocky, but I dont see how you can have the most followers on Twitter of all the contestants, most views on YouTube of all the contestants, and be voted in the bottom two. So, I knew something was fishy Thats why I spazzed out.
It was kind of aggravating on my part, because basically something that happened behind the scenes, he says. I felt like I was being treated unfairly, basically that was X Factors way of punishing me. I dont care to talk about what happened, but I doubt I was in the bottom two.
Muhammad Ali, everyone.
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Say what you will about Astro, but the dude has a star's personality. He's just too young right now and it just comes off as immature instead of hardened and jaded.
Straight up Kanye levels of crazy going on in this kid which should do wonders for his career (in a good way) if he actually hasn't hurt his chances at legitimacy through this show.
Shame, because I think he's the best one they've got on there, but as I've said before...the dude just isn't going to have an audience in the real world when it comes time to put money down for an album at this point in his life.
Straight up Kanye levels of crazy going on in this kid which should do wonders for his career (in a good way) if he actually hasn't hurt his chances at legitimacy through this show.
Shame, because I think he's the best one they've got on there, but as I've said before...the dude just isn't going to have an audience in the real world when it comes time to put money down for an album at this point in his life.
Jinfash
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Goddamnit I still wish she had stayed... :,(
So perfect.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Astro is done mincing words. He finally accuses the show of outright cheating
From an interview with the Hollywood Reporter:
Not to sound cocky, but I dont see how you can have the most followers on Twitter of all the contestants, most views on YouTube of all the contestants, and be voted in the bottom two. So, I knew something was fishy Thats why I spazzed out.
It was kind of aggravating on my part, because basically something that happened behind the scenes, he says. I felt like I was being treated unfairly, basically that was X Factors way of punishing me. I dont care to talk about what happened, but I doubt I was in the bottom two.
Muhammad Ali, everyone.
Astro is a moron.
Is X Factor on tonight due to the Thanksgiving break?
I hope so!
Leona Lewis
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