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X-Files Reboot

Do I need to watch Angel in tandem with Buffy?
You should. Later Angel episodes are amazing. More comedy than horror and a certain pale vampire steals the show in season 5. That's also the season with one of the cruelest gut punches ever.

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Everything X-Files related tanked after the first movie. Lone Gunmen. Millenium. They would need a completly new spin on the show, and I don't mean "now everyone is just black".
 

This is gonna to be dead on arrival 👀

As a life long X-Files fan, I hope this bombs hard

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As a fellow life long fan (3 rewatches) how could you want this to fail? Ryan Coogler is a fucking catch, Sinners was one of the best films in a long time and the dude is writing/directing the pilot ffs, the best thing they've done is bounce Chris Carter down to non writing executive producer as ther guy cant fucking hack it anymore with those last seasons of Xfiles being utterly abysmal, he's still stuck in that 90's way of thinking. A new cast means we have a chance of revisiting Mulder & Scully if this thing kicks off AND above all else we get a motherfucking FBI show about Aliens/Supernatural shit hopefully shot from a modern realistic perspective and with modern effects!, i cant fucking wait to be honest.
 
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As a fellow life long fan (3 rewatches) how could you want this to fail? Ryan Coogler is a fucking catch, Sinners was one of the best films in a long time and the dude is writing/directing the pilot ffs, the best thing they've done is bounce Chris Carter down to non writing executive producer as ther guy cant fucking hack it anymore with those last seasons of Xfiles being utterly abysmal, he's still stuck in that 90's way of thinking. A new cast means we have a chance of revisiting Mulder & Scully if this thing kicks off AND above all else we get a motherfucking FBI show about Aliens/Supernatural shit hopefully shot from a modern realistic perspective and with modern effects!, i cant fucking wait to be honest.
Oh it's the Sinners guy. Sinners was so bad.

Truth is out there in the graveyard six feet under the soil rest in peace.
 
so they are gonna make mulder a weak beta male that is always wrong while the new scully will be completely obnoxious who is always right and without any flaws because she's STUNNING AND BRAVE....
 
Oh I'm definitely skipping it due to the bolded. I don't want a reboot or sequel series regardless of who is involved. If anything those new seasons that they made should have been focused on just finishing the main storyline but I'm convinced Chris Carter just made it up along the way which is why we never got a proper closure to the main storyline
X-Files was awesome but yeah that whole UFO / alien arc was a mess. It never made sense and nothing ever came of it or was resolved.
 
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X-Files was awesome but yeah that whole UFO / alien arc was a mess. It never made sense and nothing ever came of it or was resolved.

The problem is that the UFO/ alien story arc will never have a satisfactory conclusion, because the X-Files was always basing its 'mythology' on real world events. There is no way to have a satisfactory conclusion as long as the alien/ UFO narrative continues in real life.

It is funny though how the 'reboot' seasons 10 and 11 tried to incorporate many current conspiracies and even insert an Alex Jones like character. When Mulder finally got to see the triangle UFO (The TR3B as it is refereed to) in season 10 (2016) that first made its debut in season 1 back in 1993.



The scientist explaining how it worked literally used Bob Lazar's alleged claim that these crafts run on Element 115. The writers are basically paraphrasing Bob's own first hand accounts.

Bob Lazar first talked about Element 115 when He 'blew the lid' off of Area S4 with George Napp back in 1989. Lazar's claims were further amplified with his later appearance on Art Bell's Coast to Coast AM back in 1992. Lazars more current Joe Rogan podcast interview really made this information widespread. Which is Joe Rogan's most watched video on his youtube channel with 65 million plus views.

The Alien story thread just could never come to any proper conclusion, and would step over itself from previous seasons.

The Monster of the Week Episodes were more like episodic Weekly World News stories, Tabloid fodder and just creative writing from the writing pool. Those could easily be written off as one-off plots with no actual conclusions. The real FBI X-Files were the 'uneXplained' category that never had any real follow ups.
 
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The best X-Files episodes where monster of the week. The main episodes were meh at best.
But that was back then where tv series had 20+ episodes per season.
Current tv series have at best ~10 episodes, so little chance for those excellent monster of the week episodes.
 
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The best X-Files episodes where monster of the week. The main episodes were meh at best.
But that was back then where tv series had 20+ episodes per season.
Current tv series have at best ~10 episodes, so little chance for those excellent monster of the week episodes.

I don't get it, the main story was wonderful man - The cigarette smoking man, the Alien conspiracy and revelations, the episode with the hundred Alien bodies inside the train wagon, the Antarctica ones with the hybrids (or was that in one of the movies?) , the sense of dread was real when it came to the main story.

Sure, there were also some great standalone episodes like "Home" (damn man) but again, I don't think the show ever suffered for having a mediocre main plot.
 
I don't get it, the main story was wonderful man - The cigarette smoking man, the Alien conspiracy and revelations, the episode with the hundred Alien bodies inside the train wagon, the Antarctica ones with the hybrids (or was that in one of the movies?) , the sense of dread was real when it came to the main story.

Sure, there were also some great standalone episodes like "Home" (damn man) but again, I don't think the show ever suffered for having a mediocre main plot.
the conspiracy ones were what made the show imo as it offered a continuing evolving storyline to follow with monster fillers, the first 5 seasons capped with the excellent 1st movie and then the 6th season are peak Xfiles
 
I have been thinking about X-Files recently and thought it would work as a season arc type show and not episodic. A major issue per season. Kind of like Stranger Things, with each season being a different thing but tying into an over arching issue that culminates after 5-7 seasons.
 
I don't get it, the main story was wonderful man - The cigarette smoking man, the Alien conspiracy and revelations, the episode with the hundred Alien bodies inside the train wagon, the Antarctica ones with the hybrids (or was that in one of the movies?) , the sense of dread was real when it came to the main story.

Sure, there were also some great standalone episodes like "Home" (damn man) but again, I don't think the show ever suffered for having a mediocre main plot.
For me the whole arc(s) lacked direction especially after the destruction of the cyndicate.
Don't get me wrong Cigarette Smoking Man was an excellent villain but the rest of them for me were meh (even the alien villains).
In fact some of the villains of the monster of the week episodes were for me far better and far more terrifying.
I especially loved some of the "part 2" episodes in later seasons that concluded some of the monster of the week stories of the early seasons.
 
They could have literal clones of Duchovny and Anderson, and I wouldn't be interested in any reboot. X-Files existed in a certain place and time. Good luck replicating that.
I agree with this 100%. Part of the allure of X-Files is the 90s and early 2000s setting. Part of that is the "simpler times" allow for everything to be more believable for lack of better words.

Certain shows just don't work in modern settings IMO. Like imaging something like The Sopranos in modern times sounds abhorrent. Same with something like Sex and the City. These shows have a time and a place.

Also X-Files LITERALLY IS David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson as Fox Mulder and Dana Scully.

I know people probably enjoy current Law and Order SVU but I just can't. SVU to me is all about that late 90s-early 2000s NYC vibe and that combined with the loss of Stabler killed any interest in the show past S11 as I already started to lose interest due to the vibe.
 
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I agree with this 100%. Part of the allure of X-Files is the 90s and early 2000s setting. Part of that is the "simpler times" allow for everything to be more believable for lack of better words.

Certain shows just don't work in modern settings IMO. Like imaging something like The Sopranos in modern times sounds abhorrent. Same with something like Sex and the City. These shows have a time and a place.

Also X-Files LITERALLY IS David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson as Fox Mulder and Dana Scully.

I know people probably enjoy current Law and Order SVU but I just can't. SVU to me is all about that late 90s-early 2000s NYC vibe and that combined with the loss of Stabler killed any interest in the show past S11 as I already started to lose interest due to the vibe.
When Stabler was gone, that was pretty much it for me too.

X-Files I love for the UFO arc. I found it more interesting than the Monster of the Week episodes.
 
Fun Fact: People fucking HATED each other on that set. This is one where the only chance of it existing is a full reboot.
Way overrated show. The only good actor was the old man. The rest were grating to say the very least. It's also one of those shows where it's enough to only watch the first season. I really wanted to love it as I'm a sucker for all things scifi, but it never managed to lift off the ground.
 
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They blackwashed my queen. Ryan Coogler you stupid motherfucker. You one trick pony.
Another redhead on the sacrificial altar......

Fundamentally I don't think x-files works today because TRUST in the FBI, and the US gov in general, as any kind of competent organization is GONE GONE GONE. The notion that the gov could hide all this fancy alien shit and smoke any whistleblowers and what not is downright laughable given the colossal fuck-ups we've seen in recent decades.

If anything, the new x-files should be about a team of agents that HIDES alien shit from the country and has to constantly cover the tracks of obvious stuff via increasingly absurd means. Basically a low tech form of "Men in Black".
 
In this version instead of Skinner it's just Ben Crump going on MSNBC crying racism every time Mulder gets in a bind.
 
X-Files only makes sense in a pre-internet culture. This is an awful idea, again proving how dead Hollywood is. It's mind-blowing that in the last 10-15 years they haven't created anything remotely impactful for future generations, despite having the best tech and tons of money. Talent is irreplaceable and right now the entertainment industry is severly lacking that.
 
I'm convinced that Chris Carter didn't know how to end the main storyline because back in the day when that show was airing, the budget for a full on alien invasion would be hard to do on TV. It could be done but a conclusion would have worked better back than as a movie with a big budget.

Which is why I was super disappointed that when Season 10 and 11 came out, they didn't do anything to finish the main storyline. I didn't hate those Seasons but I felt those two seasons were kind of pointless. And they once again introduced two new agents while being good actors, weren't memorable at all

When Agent Dogget and Reyes showed up in Season 8 and 9, I didn't hate them but they felt out of place and I found them boring in comparision to Mulder and Scully

I remember that show being super popular back when it was airing. What killed it is that the more they went into the main storyline and not answering lot of the questions, the more the viewership began to drop. I did love all the seasons but I feel the first five to six seasons are the better seasons overall

I also remembered hearing that the effects that the X-Files were doing at the time were movie quality. It was always interesting hearing about how they did does effects and how they had to work around a TV schedule to make it look fantastic
My understanding with the new agents was to attempt a passing of the torch. But the rebooted seasons didn't do well so the continuing series wasn't green lit.

Season 11 did bring one of my all time favorite episodes "Rm9sbG93ZXJz" aka Remember to Tip Your Sushi Bot.
 
I remember my first GF and I skipping our middle school spring dance to watch the Season Finale of Season 2 🥰

Let's say my fingers had a pungent smell that night 😎
 
Ryan Coogler just seems like a major race grifter now.

which is a shame cause i actually liked his Creed movies. I thought we'd see alot more and alot better from him.
 

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My favorite line; Creatively Bankrupt!

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I want to reiterate what bitbydeath bitbydeath posted.
You can watch both individually and you wouldn't miss much, but it's best watched Buffy First then Angel, IMHO!

Really is, when it comes to Hollywood, most of the time haven't been excited for a lot of the new movies coming out. It's why I love horror films, so far when it comes to modern Hollywood, I find that horror films tend to be more fresh when it comes to giving me a new experience watching a movie. They are usually one off too

There's so many reboots, remakes and yes superhero films and shows that it just gets eye rolling at times. Not to mention lot of these companies trying to milk anime to death with these live action adaptations

Fun Fact: People fucking HATED each other on that set. This is one where the only chance of it existing is a full reboot.

Not surprised, I remember people talking about how much the actors playing those main two characters on that Castle show hating each other in real life. I'm not surrpised since I do think it's more common than Hollywood would want to admit

X-Files was awesome but yeah that whole UFO / alien arc was a mess. It never made sense and nothing ever came of it or was resolved.

That's the thing, I love the main storyline. I think due to the popularity of the show, if they ever wanted to finish the storyline, they are able to now since the popularity of the show would justify spending a lot on a season or two finishing the storyline. It would be cool if both actors from the OG Show returned and this time there's a full scale alien invasion

My understanding with the new agents was to attempt a passing of the torch. But the rebooted seasons didn't do well so the continuing series wasn't green lit.

Season 11 did bring one of my all time favorite episodes "Rm9sbG93ZXJz" aka Remember to Tip Your Sushi Bot.

I'm aware of that but I find it interesting that even with a lot of time passing, they still can't find anyone who can replace the actors playing Mulder and Scully. Not only the characters themselves but each one of the new agents introduced aren't memorable at all in looks too. Whenever I saw Mulder and Scully on a magazine cover, I knew instantly who they were. There's just a distinctive look to them that can't be replicated in a new show

That's another thing, I might have been disappointed in them not really delving into the main storyline in those two new seasons we got, but the standalones episodes we got were great



Mulder taking mushrooms and than going on a trip where he ends up dancing at a country bar. Had me dying on the floor



Skinner past as a Vietnam soldier was one of my favorite episodes. I was teary eyed at the end where Skinner talks about his past to Mulder and Scully. He's one of my favorite characters in the show

I'm still salty they killed off The Lone Gunmen. I wasn't a fan of the show but I was a huge fan of Milliennium and Harsh Realms





I love all the seasons including Seasons 7 to 11. But I do agree that Season 1 to 6 and the first movie are the best when it comes to the show in regards to the pacing and plot
 
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Really is, when it comes to Hollywood, most of the time haven't been excited for a lot of the new movies coming out. It's why I love horror films, so far when it comes to modern Hollywood, I find that horror films tend to be more fresh when it comes to giving me a new experience watching a movie. They are usually one off too

There's so many reboots, remakes and yes superhero films and shows that it just gets eye rolling at times. Not to mention lot of these companies trying to milk anime to death with these live action adaptations



Not surprised, I remember people talking about how much the actors playing those main two characters on that Castle show hating each other in real life. I'm not surrpised since I do think it's more common than Hollywood would want to admit



That's the thing, I love the main storyline. I think due to the popularity of the show, if they ever wanted to finish the storyline, they are able to now since the popularity of the show would justify spending a lot on a season or two finishing the storyline. It would be cool if both actors from the OG Show returned and this time there's a full scale alien invasion



I'm aware of that but I find it interesting that even with a lot of time passing, they still can't find anyone who can replace the actors playing Mulder and Scully. Not only the characters themselves but each one of the new agents introduced aren't memorable at all in looks too. Whenever I saw Mulder and Scully on a magazine cover, I knew instantly who they were. There's just a distinctive look to them that can't be replicated in a new show

That's another thing, I might have been disappointed in them not really delving into the main storyline in those two new seasons we got, but the standalones episodes we got were great



Mulder taking mushrooms and than going on a trip where he ends up dancing at a country bar. Had me dying on the floor



Skinner past as a Vietnam soldier was one of my favorite episodes. I was teary eyed at the end where Skinner talks about his past to Mulder and Scully. He's one of my favorite characters in the show

I'm still salty they killed off The Lone Gunmen. I wasn't a fan of the show but I was a huge fan of Milliennium and Harsh Realms





I love all the seasons including Seasons 7 to 11. But I do agree that Season 1 to 6 and the first movie are the best when it comes to the show in regards to the pacing and plot

I actually agree with a lot of what you said.
 
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