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X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016

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kevin feige said "MCU won't go drama"

if you expect Marvel/disney to go with a darker tone make no mistake it won't happen anytime soon.

even with winter soldier was more dark don't expect more than

Stark "I disagree with you steve"
CA: 'then let's fight "

MCU is more about fun with super heroes than anything else.

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Going through the Rogue Cut and the special features, I have to wonder if any cut content will return in some form for Apocalypse.

Mainly, the storyboards for the climax had a bunch of characters that were removed from DOFP. Psylocke and Jubilee are obviously in Apocalypse. They have some decent scenes that were cut. Jubilee really messed up a Sentinel. Then there were guys like Rockslide, Mercury, and Siryn that seemed to have decent parts before they were cut.

Speaking of cut, the original deaths for Warpath (Proudstar in the storyboard), Storm, and Bishop were kind of fucked up tbh.

A small thing cut that would have been fantastic was a small interaction between Erik and Charles in the future. After Mags does his thing outside he comes in and slams the door behind him. Charles kind of gives Mags a look and Erik just says he's out of metal to block the door. Charles slides out of his chair and Erik smiles and uses the floating chair into a large X to reinforce the door. then he uses his helmet to make the final touch. Then they kind of buddy up and lean against the same pillar as the Sentinels bust through.

As far as I know, Apocalypse has none of the old cast in it. Seeing one final buddy moment between the two older characters would have been fantastic. Hopefully we can get something else at some point with the same type of emotional punch.

Also, watching a small feature on "Whats Next", Kinberg said that First Class focused on Mags, DOFP on Charles, and then he says Apocalypse will focus largely on one character as well. He never outright says a name but all of the imagery was of Mystique. Not sure if I want a film focusing of Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique.
 
FUBAR McDangles said:
Also, watching a small feature on "Whats Next", Kinberg said that First Class focused on Mags, DOFP on Charles, and then he says Apocalypse will focus largely on one character as well. He never outright says a name but all of the imagery was of Mystique. Not sure if I want a film focusing of Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique.
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Yeah, they've kind of hinted at that elsewhere. I'd feel a lot better about it if she was actually good in the role. She's not January Jones bad, but she always looks and sounds like she'd rather be doing something else in these movies. Maybe she'll step it up if it's focused on her.
 
Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
Yeah, they've kind of hinted at that elsewhere. I'd feel a lot better about it if she was actually good in the role. She's not January Jones bad, but she always looks and sounds like she'd rather be doing something else in these movies. Maybe she'll step it up if it's focused on her.
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the first two movies had a bunch of her and she still sucked so I doubt it
 
Caddywompus said:
Is it for the better or is it unnecessary fluff just to drag out the scenes.
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More LOTR Extended Edition than X-Men 1.5. There's one new significant scene that bored me (Mystique/Beast) but all the other changes I really liked, especially what they did with the future side of the movie. It addresses how the sentinels magically knew exactly where they were and went an entire battalion after them.
 
LiquidSolid said:
More LOTR Extended Edition than X-Men 1.5. There's one new significant scene that bored me (Mystique/Beast) but all the other changes I really liked, especially what they did with the future side of the movie. It addresses how the sentinels magically knew exactly where they were and went an entire battalion after them.
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My copy is on the way. I'm in Taipei so I have to wait for my friend to bring it back with him from the U.S.

So you're saying it's a substantial revision of the film? Does it add a lot more in terms of character moments/development or do are the additions more action oriented?

I was very curious as to whether or not this was Singer's "director's cut" but their PR guy on Twitter (who is very cool) said that they want to leave it for the fans to decide which version of the film they prefer.

So what say you?

Edit: There was a deleted scene on the original bluray where Mystique was back at the mansion (for some reason) having a conversation in the kitchen with Charles, Hank, and Logan. It was actually pretty bad and added nothing; just meandered a lot with pointless dialogue. I can plainly see why it was cut. Please don't tell me it was put back in.
 
SolidChamp said:
My copy is on the way. I'm in Taipei so I have to wait for my friend to bring it back with him from the U.S.

So you're saying it's a substantial revision of the film? Does it add a lot more in terms of character moments/development or do are the additions more action oriented?

I was very curious as to whether or not this was Singer's "director's cut" but their PR guy on Twitter (who is very cool) said that they want to leave it for the fans to decide which version of the film they prefer.

So what say you?

Edit: There was a deleted scene on the original bluray where Mystique was back at the mansion (for some reason) having a conversation in the kitchen with Charles, Hank, and Logan. It was actually pretty bad and added nothing; just meandered a lot with pointless dialogue. I can plainly see why it was cut. Please don't tell me it was put back in.
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Nah, it's in the mansion but it's just her and Hank. It plays off their relationship in First Class quite a bit but I admittedly wasn't paying much attention at that point.

I haven't seen the original cut for a while but from what I remember, the changes are fairly substantial. The Rogue segment alone is pretty significant but even excluding the new scenes, they've altered most of the movie.

It's not perfect but right now I consider it an improvement over the original.
 
LiquidSolid said:
Nah, it's in the mansion but it's just her and Hank. It plays off their relationship in First Class quite a bit but I admittedly wasn't paying much attention at that point.

I haven't seen the original cut for a while but from what I remember, the changes are fairly substantial. The Rogue segment alone is pretty significant but even excluding the new scenes, they've altered most of the movie.

It's not perfect but right now I consider it an improvement over the original.
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I thought the original was the best comic book film to come out since The Dark Knight, so I'm curious to see how much more of an "improvement" it could possibly be.

Thanks for the input.
 
SolidChamp said:
I thought the original was the best comic book film to come out since The Dark Knight, so I'm curious to see how much more of an "improvement" it could possibly be.

Thanks for the input.
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I still think the original is the better version. The Beast/Mystique scene isn't very good and makes Hank look dumb as fuck (in the commentary the editor/composer doesn't even really buy the scene). The Rogue stuff is alright, but you can see why it was cut. I do like a lot of the changes to dialogue and some of the small scenes and extensions they added here and there. But overall, the original, I think, is still the way to go.

If you haven't bought the original cut on blu-ray yet, it is included with the Rogue cut.
 
Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
I still think the original is the better version. The Beast/Mystique scene isn't very good and makes Hank look dumb as fuck (in the commentary the editor/composer doesn't even really buy the scene). The Rogue stuff is alright, but you can see why it was cut. I do like a lot of the changes to dialogue and some of the small scenes and extensions they added here and there. But overall, the original, I think, is still the way to go.

If you haven't bought the original cut on blu-ray yet, it is included with the Rogue cut.
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Yeah, this is the only reason why I decided to buy the Rogue Cut. I'm glad I held off on the original edition bluray.

You know, initially they weren't going to include the Theatrical Cut. It was fucking baffling to me, but they told me on Twitter they changed their mind in the late stages of putting the whole thing together. So glad they did. It's very important to preserve the original work while allowing fans to decide for themselves whether or not the alternate cut is worthy.
 
SolidChamp said:
Yeah, this is the only reason why I decided to buy the Rogue Cut. I'm glad I held off on the original edition bluray.

You know, initially they weren't going to include the Theatrical Cut. It was fucking baffling to me, but they told me on Twitter they changed their mind in the late stages of putting the whole thing together. So glad they did. It's very important to preserve the original work while allowing fans to decide for themselves whether or not the alternate cut is worthy.
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I didn't even realize the theatrical was on there until I was about to start the movie. The last I heard they weren't going to include so it was definitely a pleasant surprise.
 
LiquidSolid said:
Nah, it's in the mansion but it's just her and Hank. It plays off their relationship in First Class quite a bit but I admittedly wasn't paying much attention at that point.

I haven't seen the original cut for a while but from what I remember, the changes are fairly substantial. The Rogue segment alone is pretty significant but even excluding the new scenes, they've altered most of the movie.

It's not perfect but right now I consider it an improvement over the original.
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Really? Thinking about ordering it now.
 
it's not an improvement over the original, no way. the editing is off and you can tell the movie was better off without the inclusion of some of those scenes. it's like in the awkward spot in between the lotr extended editions and a hacked up feeling cash grab.

it's great that they included the theatrical on there though.
 
Discotheque said:
it's not an improvement over the original, no way. the editing is off and you can tell the movie was better off without the inclusion of some of those scenes. it's like in the awkward spot in between the lotr extended editions and a hacked up feeling cash grab.

it's great that they included the theatrical on there though.
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Is this a Rogue Cut review?
 
upon further analysis, I came to accept Apocalypse's look, in fact it's way more Egyptian than the comic book, which is appropriate..



nah, can't convince myself either. still ugly as fuck
 
http://www.mtv.com/news/2217579/evan-peters-xmen-apocalypse-quicksilver/

So when MTV News caught up with Peters on Friday (July 17) to chat about his new indie flick “Safelight,” we just had to ask — with “Apocalypse” coming out next summer with a gaggle of new stars, and with Aaron Taylor-Johnson making his mark as the same(ish) character in “Avengers: Age of Ultron” last May, is Peters feeling the heat when it comes to topping his Pentagon escape?

“Well, yeah, it’s always difficult to try to top something like that,” he told us over the phone. “The special effects guys, man, they absolutely nailed that and did a fantastic job on it. This year we’re working on something that’s bigger and better, keeping the same elements that worked, then adding a few new ones. I’m really excited to see it all cut together, and I’m excited for people to see it, too. I think it’s going to be a really fun sequence in what is going to be a massive X-Men movie. The scope of it — with the end of the world and Apocalypse coming — is going to be a very large, epic ’X-Men’ film.”
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