Xbox 2 controller pic (lies?)

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http://spong.com/x?msg=4894

Not from SPOnG itself, rather from its forum.

Any ideas? Looks kinda shady to me, like. In other news, I bedded a 6ft blonde Slovak chick on Saturday. Cool huh? :)
 
If it's true, the start and select buttons are awfully placed.

EDIT: I think it's a fake. The cord for the Xenon controller looks about two feet long.
 
Koshiro. Your avatar reminds me of Saturday night.
I also think it's a fake, though it does have that "Cheeky developer grabing a snapshot just to take the piss vibe."
 
So they put the black and white buttons up as shoulder buttons?

That new controller looks ugly to me, which makes me think the pic is fake.
 
I think the black & white buttons should become shoulder buttons. But the current ones take too much room for that. Maybe put them where the 'prototype' controller has it's back & start buttons.
 
MaddenNFL64 said:
I think the black & white buttons should become shoulder buttons. But the current ones take too much room for that. Maybe put them where the 'prototype' controller has it's back & start buttons.
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I read somewhere, I forget where, that MS plans to get rid of the black and white buttons in exchange for shoulder buttons.
 
Koshiro said:
It's either a prototype for the current xbox pad, or, much more likley, a photoshop.
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Troidal said:
looks like a suspicious third party controller from Hong Kong or something...

hrm, what's that smell....
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Those posts just about cover it.
 
I remember in that /. post long ago they posted specs. I believe the B/W were replaced in favor of two more triggers. So. . . let' me see this thing.

. . .

Yeah. That's exactly what it would look like. The Back/Start buttons are MUCH better placed and you can obviously see bigger shoulders indicating new buttons in it.
It's just a prototype, but that is probably an official pic.
 
M3wThr33 said:
I remember in that /. post long ago they posted specs. I believe the B/W were replaced in favor of two more triggers. So. . . let' me see this thing.

. . .

Yeah. That's exactly what it would look like. The Back/Start buttons are MUCH better placed and you can obviously see bigger shoulders indicating new buttons in it.
It's just a prototype, but that is probably an official pic.
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If that's an official pic I'll eat my cock.
 
Troidal said:
looks like a suspicious third party controller from Hong Kong or something...

hrm, what's that smell....
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Get out of my head!!!! and stop posting my thoughts!!!!
 
Looks like somebody photochopped a picture of an old Logitech Wingman controller... Definitely fake.
 
FUCK they better not move black and white to triggers. I HATE the DS' 4 triggers... the Xbox controller is more or less perfect as is. Don't fuck with it!
 
The fact theres no b&w buttons is the only thing that makes this even xbox365 news worthy, probably a photoshopped 3rd party thing.
 
Meier said:
FUCK they better not move black and white to triggers. I HATE the DS' 4 triggers... the Xbox controller is more or less perfect as is. Don't fuck with it!
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Triggers and shoulder buttons are different. I can't imagine they'd put 4 triggers in, that'd be ridiculous. I imagine they'll be shoulder buttons above the triggers instead.

Though as you don't like the Dual Shock, that won't appease you. Triggers are still different though.
 
they've got the concept right, though... The Xenon controller will be very similar to that one with the bw buttons removed in favor of 2 more shoulder buttoms. The triggers might be changed to be more like the Gamecube push down ones and above those will be the 2 new shoulder buttons. This way, you don't lose the functionality of the trigger for FPS and racing games and still add the extra PS2-like 4-shoulder button capability for those trick games.

Awesome.
 
For those that said the cord was two feet long, ever think it could be only for recharging the internal batteries for wireless? ;)

I have a good idea where whoever took the pic, took it. That said, this isn't the final Xenon controller. But it's definitley floating around the XBox offices these days.
 
remember those pics of early PS controller prototypes? they all look cheap as hell.

I think that pic does fit with what we've heard: no more B&W, + two shoulder buttons. That it would keep the remaining button layout is only logical, mustn't alienate the people.

The length of the cord would, IMO, corroborate the authenticity, rather than put it in question: if someone had built a fake controller out of carved soap bars, they'd just have stuck a plain vanilla Xbox controller cable on it... on the other hand, if you're prototyping lots of controller desings, you dont need that length of cable, just enough to hook it up, play with it a bit, see if it feel good and works. than just two it on the focus group table. 9 feet of cable would just be in the way.

It could well be legit, but as it goes with those things, it could only be a preliminary esquisse. Even if it's real, I dont expect the ffinal product to lok exactly like that
 
prototypes always look cheap, mostly because they aren't using high quality plastics. mostly just quick setting stuff.
 
I can tell you from my inside source, that that picture is identical to the way my source described the prototype xbox 2 controller. It's legit.
 
People crying "Photoshop!" need to learn how to explain why, otherwise it just sounds stupid to shout it in every less believable thread with nothing to back it up.

It's an awesome Photoshop job if so. I'm more inclined to believe the 3rd party idea if I have to think it's fake, which I don't even really see any reason to do anyway.
 
TekunoRobby said:
The reflection on the thumbsticks/d-pad don't match up with the rest of the controller, OF COURSE IT'S FAKE.
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If that's the case, then its maker went to the trouble of faking the current controller, too. The reflections are the same type on both, with their hotspots all facing the center of the camera... caused by the flash. Even the quarter matches. The current controller also reflects the new one in it. If its a fake, whoever made it did an excellent job.
 
Not sure if thats what im seeing, but there seems to be triggers right on top of the controller, ala DS2. Maybe they went for 4 triggers, 2 on top, 2 on the same positions as the S-controller. Would be cool if they did, would be downright perfect imo, much better than the black & white emplacement.
 
Looks legit to me, but that doesn't mean the final controller will look like that....i mean really, they just use cheap plastic to get an idea of how the controller feels.

Still, i'm interested to see the indentation where the memory cards go...could we possibly see a VMU? Some early Xbox controller sketches had controllers with VMU's :D
 
Triggers = DC, Xbox, GC etc

Shoulder buttons = SNES, N64, PS1 etc

I'm not sure where the PS2 comes into it. Personally I'd call them shoulder buttons, but with the analogue maybe they're triggers.

Anyway, the point is I don't see how you could comfortably fit 4 lots of triggers on a controller. Nor do I really see the need, shouler buttons should be fine.
 
If even one person is awake on the desing team, they'll keep the the two trigger layout, with two buttons over them, kind of like a GC pad with an extra Z button on the right side.



...I feel I need to specify, because I'm sure people would twist my past words (oh wait, I've changed my nick when the boards switched... oh well... you guys can't have made the connection to who I was... right?) that this does not constitute an endorsement of the GC pad on my part, I stand by my word that it's too small and cramped for my hands, but that doesn't mean the trigger +button layout isn't good, it's the best from the DS + the analog precision from the saturn/DC/GC/Xbox...
 
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BS!
 
"Triggers = DC, Xbox, GC etc

Shoulder buttons = SNES, N64, PS1 etc

I'm not sure where the PS2 comes into it. Personally I'd call them shoulder buttons, but with the analogue maybe they're triggers."



I think the distinction you're trying to establish is that a trigger has a noticable amount of travel, while a button does not.

The PS2's analog shoulder would still qualify as buttons, since they dont have the analog travel of a trigger, but rather are pressure sensitive.

trigger = position
buttton = pressure
 
I like the position of the start and back buttons better than the controller S, but I prefer triggers rather than the buttons it at least looks like they're going with now. On the other hand, the black and white buttons were in a crappy spot on the Xbox controller, so I'm sure this is an improvement. It's just the Microsoft version of the Dual Shock, which most people have no problems with.

I don't understand why no one just makes six buttons on the face of the controller, 3 on top of 3.
 
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