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Xbox 360: First Look At Final Hardware, . . .

Musashi Wins! said:
Are you functionally retarded or are you just another troll who trolls better in another language?


Before commenting on my language skills, may I suggest hooked on phonics? Cause based on that answer, your reading comprehension is well, nonexistent. To help you out, you said:

It does however seem to support your posting, which if recent memory is any guide has about nil value to anyone.

So, if my posts have nil value, why bother writing a mini thesis refuting them???
 
Doube D Relax,

If the info is true, it will come out of other sources in due time, if its false it will pass on to oblivion.

It really does not matter
 
Suikoguy said:
Doube D Relax,

If the info is true, it will come out of other sources in due time, if its false it will pass on to oblivion.

It really does not matter

Thats fine and well. I didn't claim it is true, I just stated that it shouldn't be called false simply because people don't like the news.
 
Why is his commentary on the shortcomings of the XBOX360 bad-mouthing it? Just because he was criticizing doesn't make him an xbox basher. He was just disappointed by what it had to offer. Thus, he was making his criticisms known through article. It's called editorial reporting.

If a movie is bad...do people criticize it. Yes. So what's the big deal here.
 
Doube D said:
Thats fine and well. I didn't claim it is true, I just stated that it shouldn't be called false simply because people don't like the news.

It also shouldn't be called legit simply because people do like the news.
 
Doube D said:
Thats fine and well. I didn't claim it is true, I just stated that it shouldn't be called false simply because people don't like the news.

That's true, but that's not why people are calling it false.

Element, who works for a developer, says all games are required to have AA, and that he can set his dash to 1080i.
 
Its just backlash from the positive 360 thread of yesterday. Hes probably not the only troll waiting to jump on some negative news. :D
 
ROG27 said:
Why is his commentary on the shortcomings of the XBOX360 bad-mouthing it? Just because he was criticizing doesn't make him an xbox basher. He was just disappointed by what it had to offer. Thus, he was making his criticisms known through article. It's called editorial reporting.

If a movie is bad...do people criticize it. Yes. So what's the big deal here.

read the thread ...
 
Borys said:
It also shouldn't be called legit simply because people do like the news.

I couldnÂ’t careless about the news. Im not planning to purchase two consoles this gen regardless (and my choice has always been the ps3.). And I didnÂ’t come into this thread saying oooh, look at this, look at that. Fact is that the authors of this article had hands on access to the hardware, which is more access than what 99.9 percent of the members on this site can claim. So before claiming the article is bs, at least wait for other hands on impressions.
 
Heres my translation:

-No Digital Outputs!

The Console has absolutely not digital outputs to plug on any kind of Monitor or TV's and thus makes
it impossible to playback any High Definition Video bought at retail. The Built-in DVD Player decodes
only MPEG1 and 2 and scales it up for HDTV.

With 2 USB ports on the front and an additional on the back of the Console you can plug in your Mp3 Player,
PSPs, USB-Sticks, Digital Cameras or external harddisk from which you can play Music (MP3, WAV, WMA are supported)
and pictures can be shown as DiaShow. If you want you can as well have the music playback while displaying
Pictures. The Music can as well be used as Soundtrack in Games. Sadly it is impossible to copy these files
over to the Xbox360's Harddisk nor any Videos.


-Silent, but not completely silent-

The System is cooled using 3 Fans which blow out hot air out of the Consoles Back. The RPM (Rotations Per Minute)
depend on the system's heat and is adjusted as required. When playing back DVD's the Fans are rotating only slowly,
while playing hardware-demanding Games the fans Speed up.

Since the Sides of the Xbox360 are even it is possible to put smaller TV's on the unit. But you shouldn't put the
unit into closed cabinets. With our first impression, the Xbox360 is less noisy then its predecessor the Xbox, yet
the Unit is louder then one db and therefore is clearly hear-able in a quiet environment.


-Backward Compatibility

Microsoft was unable to give final statements about the Backward Compatibility for Xbox Games. What was said was
that they're working on the most popular Games of the Xbox. Xbox Games will look just the same on the Xbox360.
The increased power of the Xbox360 will not be used to add Anti-aliasing nor anything of the likes. Savegames
will sadly not be copyable from the Xbox.


-Score (?)

Microsoft has enhanced the Xbox meaningfully, yet failed adding Killer-Features to gain new Target Groups.
Owners of the Original Xbox don't have to put their black boxes into a grave as the compatibility of their games
is at no stage guaranteed. Moreso will the SaveGames be lost.

Home Cinema Enthusiasts can use the Console as High Quality DVD-Player -- Although not for DivX or HD-Movies.
For that you will require an additional player, and could directly for some additional money buy a Media Center PC
without the hefty Restrictions.

The New Games await Gamers with more detailed Graphics, but if that is enough to gather more people then previous
Xbox Owners is highly doubtable. There it will matter for the offered Games; which urgently require new Ideas.
For Casual Gamers are 400€uro a lot of money.

For the downgraded Version of 299€uro + 35 Euro gamers will have to drop quite a bit of features which don't justify
the price difference of 65 Euro. This Target Group (Casual Gamers) most probably won't purchase Premium content to play
Arcade Games, which they could download for free on the PC as Shareware or Flash. With this, it will be very hard for
Microsoft to find its place between the Playstation 3, a high-end enthusiast and the Nintendo Revolution for Casual Gamers
and gain any market share.
 
pj325is said:
That's true, but that's not why people are calling it false.

Element, who works for a developer, says all games are required to have AA, and that he can set his dash to 1080i.
bingo
 
ROG27 said:
I did read the thread...your point?

I don't think anyone was bashing the author because of bad news. It's only that some of the info of this article had been proved wrong within 20 posts.

This does not shed positive light on the author or the publication imo
 
So, far I think the XBOX 360 is promising, and the games that show me that are PGR3, NBA 2K6, and GoW.

but it sounds like it also has some serious shortcomings...why can't people criticize something....alot of times you diehard xbox fans sound like censoring fascists.
 
*stamp*

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This thread gets the stamp of the deadly night shroom. Deadly Night shroom skeleton says "I can see clearly through the haze, trolling will bring the end of days!"
 
Um, you did not disprove anything through any number of posts...
You could go on posting speculation all day and say you disproved something even though it's more likely wishful thinking than not.

let's weigh the situation here...

He was there in front of one of these things....and all the rest of you were not.

Who am I going to believe....hmmmmm?
 
element said:
AFAIK MS wants some sort of AA even in 720p.

Cheers element! I'll ask again, but you may not be able to say, but do you know if 720p is an enforced minimum native resolution for X360 games?
 
ROG27 said:
Um, you did not disprove anything through any number of posts...
You could go on posting speculation all day and say you disproved something even though it's more likely wishful thinking than not.

let's weigh the situation here...

He was there in front of one of these things....and all the rest of you were not.

Who am I going to believe....hmmmmm?

jesus. I know I didn't proof anything. I know I wasn't there.

Other people on the other hand, who are actually working with this hardware might know slightly more than some german online journalist.
 
Doube D said:
Thats fine and well. I didn't claim it is true, I just stated that it shouldn't be called false simply because people don't like the news.

It's being called false because a developer who HAS AN XBOX360 is stating some of it is false.

I'm sure you'll choose to ignore this post, but whatever. There it is, plain as it can get, made simple just for you.
 
gamergirly said:
Why so much bickering? The truth is coming soon, whether you accept it or not

I actually plan to deny every bit of bad news until 2009. I won't accept it any sooner
 
ROG27 said:
let's weigh the situation here...

He was there in front of one of these things....and all the rest of you were not.

Who am I going to believe....hmmmmm?
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Seth C said:
It's being called false because a developer who HAS AN XBOX360 is stating some of it is false.

I'm sure you'll choose to ignore this post, but whatever. There it is, plain as it can get, made simple just for you.
 
element said:
you can have MP3 files on the HDD. I don't think you can just 'copy' them on there though. I think you have to rip them again. But a way around that is getting Microsoft Media Connect 2.0, and just making your MP3 a share and pointing your Xbox 360 to that share. Then all your music can be streamed, even in-game.

Bugger, I was really hoping I could just copy mp3s over the network and then not have to bother with it again :( Time to re-rip CDs, AGAIN!
 
Deathcraze said:
Bugger, I was really hoping I could just copy mp3s over the network and then not have to bother with it again :( Time to re-rip CDs, AGAIN!
why even copy them locally if streaming them has no performance lost? Then you also don't have doubled up MP3 catalogs, one on your PC, one on your iPod, one on your Xbox 360, and others...

Just one place to store all your tunes, and then share out from there. Much easier IMO.
 
element said:
why even copy them locally if streaming them has no performance lost? Then you also don't have doubled up MP3 catalogs, one on your PC, one on your iPod, one on your Xbox 360, and others...

Just one place to store all your tunes, and then share out from there. Much easier IMO.

I understand but it'll be a hassle to have to turn the PC everytime I want to use the custom soundtracks feature.
 
IJoel said:
I understand but it'll be a hassle to have to turn the PC everytime I want to use the custom soundtracks feature.
people turn off their PCs? I haven't turned mine off since I moved in to my new apt. Only reboots. MS and Sony are both trying to get people to have all their appliances on, and have them all talk to each other. home networking man!!
 
element said:
people turn off their PCs? I haven't turned mine off since I moved in to my new apt. Only reboots. MS and Sony are both trying to get people to have all their appliances on, and have them all talk to each other. home networking man!!

Well, someitmes gf's can complain about the electricity bills getting too high ;) (it happens ;)).
 
element said:
why even copy them locally if streaming them has no performance lost? Then you also don't have doubled up MP3 catalogs, one on your PC, one on your iPod, one on your Xbox 360, and others...

Just one place to store all your tunes, and then share out from there. Much easier IMO.

I move place to place quite alot, and its easy to take a xbox around with me than it is a destop PC. Also going round to friends house with the 360 and such like, obviously I wont be able to access my network from there.

Also sometimes my network works blazingly fast and at other times slows to a crawl, I just prefer to have less reasons for things to feck up.

Will 360 be able to look at internet Databases for song titles and such?
 
I don't believe that anyone on this forum works in the industry....that's alot of BS. Usually developers are not allowed to blog (unless through a company medium), use public forums, etc because of sign non-disclosure agreements. Developers caught doing this lose their jobs immediately.

This guy is pulling your leg. If you believe him you are again, wishful thinking.
 
Sorry if this is a dumb question but can't I just put a thumb drive in the back USB and use that for my custom soundtracks all the time?
 
ROG27 said:
I don't believe that anyone on this forum works in the industry....that's alot of BS. Usually developers are not allowed to blog (unless through a company medium), use public forums, etc because of sign non-disclosure agreements. Developers caught doing this lose their jobs immediately.

This guy is pulling your leg. If you believe him you are again, wishful thinking.

I think you may have this place confused with GameFaqs. :lol
 
ROG27 said:
I don't believe that anyone on this forum works in the industry....that's alot of BS. Usually developers are not allowed to blog (unless through a company medium), use public forums, etc because of sign non-disclosure agreements. Developers caught doing this lose their jobs immediately.

This guy is pulling your leg. If you believe him you are again, wishful thinking.

You've got alot to learn junior :lol

Sorry if this is a dumb question but can't I just put a thumb drive in the back USB and use that for my custom soundtracks all the time?

I think you are able to yes, since you can use a ipod and PSP for the same thing.
 
ROG27 said:
I don't believe that anyone on this forum works in the industry....that's alot of BS. Usually developers are not allowed to blog (unless through a company medium), use public forums, etc because of sign non-disclosure agreements. Developers caught doing this lose their jobs immediately.

This guy is pulling your leg. If you believe him you are again, wishful thinking.

ahh, I see :)
 
ROG27 said:
I don't believe that anyone on this forum works in the industry....that's alot of BS. Usually developers are not allowed to blog (unless through a company medium), use public forums, etc because of sign non-disclosure agreements. Developers caught doing this lose their jobs immediately.

This guy is pulling your leg. If you believe him you are again, wishful thinking.
i smell a joke character, he cant be real. wouldnt be surprised if he was doube d.
 
"I don't believe that anyone on this forum works in the industry....that's alot of BS. Usually developers are not allowed to blog (unless through a company medium), use public forums, etc because of sign non-disclosure agreements. Developers caught doing this lose their jobs immediately.

This guy is pulling your leg. If you believe him you are again, wishful thinking."


You must be new.
 
Alot to learn junior...considering you're probably 15...I wouldn't go there.

Alot of you are probably at home programmers that wish you were in the industry. Or you work at places in the mall, like Gamestop or EB.

That's okay...but you're still projecting your wishful thinking. Until you actually see it, feel it, and play it...you don't know jack.

Mr. Game Developer, on the other hand, prove what you know....that's right, I'm calling you out. Let us on in some details no one else knows.
 
element said:
people turn off their PCs? I haven't turned mine off since I moved in to my new apt. Only reboots. MS and Sony are both trying to get people to have all their appliances on, and have them all talk to each other. home networking man!!

Fine. Will MS pay my electricity bill then? :)

Also: My PC's in the living room and it makes lots of noise when it's on.
 
ROG27 said:
Alot to learn junior...considering you're probably 15...I wouldn't go there.

Alot of you are probably at home programmers that wish you were in the industry. Or you work at places in the mall, like Gamestop or EB.

That's okay...but you're still projecting your wishful thinking. Until you actually see it, feel it, and play it...you don't know jack.

Mr. Game Developer, on the other hand, prove what you know....that's right, I'm calling you out. Let us on in some details no one else knows.

ahh, I see :)
 
ROG27 said:
Alot to learn junior...considering you're probably 15...I wouldn't go there.

Alot of you are probably at home programmers that wish you were in the industry. Or you work at places in the mall, like Gamestop or EB.

That's okay...but you're still projecting your wishful thinking. Until you actually see it, feel it, and play it...you don't know jack.

Mr. Game Developer, on the other hand, prove what you know....that's right, I'm calling you out. Let us on in some details no one else knows.
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ROG27 said:
Alot to learn junior...considering you're probably 15...I wouldn't go there.

Alot of you are probably at home programmers that wish you were in the industry. Or you work at places in the mall, like Gamestop or EB.

That's okay...but you're still projecting your wishful thinking. Until you actually see it, feel it, and play it...you don't know jack.

Mr. Game Developer, on the other hand, prove what you know....that's right, I'm calling you out. Let us on in some details no one else knows.
:lol
 
element said:
If you have a live account, it will get the cd-text for the album and songs.

Excellent, thats something atleast.

Alot to learn junior...considering you're probably 15...I wouldn't go there.

Alot of you are probably at home programmers that wish you were in the industry. Or you work at places in the mall, like Gamestop or EB.

That's okay...but you're still projecting your wishful thinking. Until you actually see it, feel it, and play it...you don't know jack.

Mr. Game Developer, on the other hand, prove what you know....that's right, I'm calling you out. Let us on in some details no one else knows.

Maybe Jack Thompson has finally infiltrated the forums?
 
ROG27 said:
Mr. Game Developer, on the other hand, prove what you know....that's right, I'm calling you out. Let us on in some details no one else knows.

guess i'll bite.

he's done that for years already (which is why you are the only one here that doesn't know it). last time i checked, which was quite awhile back, element (formerly oxygen) worked on the latest unreal game for xbox... i forget the name of it, but it was the one where they added all the melee stuff.

he doesn't have to prove anything to us, because we all already know.
 
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